The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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Jormungand said:
So, at this point, it's easy to say the Boys ending is going to be terrible, and everyone knows it, including Erica Kirpke, who decided to pull the "Well, it was always meant to suck ass!"

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In fact, there's an entire article about him bitching about fans complaining about all the filler in the final season of his own show.
Constantly complaining about his fans and claiming they only want to see people fighting, even though one of the main premises of the comics was killing superpowered celebrities. Yet, the show is simply Eric Kirpke's whiny fanfic about how he hates Trump and people who follow him.

I'll send a link to the article below, but here's his response.


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Oh brother. What a tool.
 
Jormungand said:
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yeah, nobody's going to buy the "it sucks on purpose" excuse
 
To add insult to injury, have you ever wondered why Kripke decided to get rid of the big twist of the comics, that being Black Noir being a Homelander clone?
Well, here you go.

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So basically, Eric hated the source material and decided to make Black Noir a black guy, then got confused when people started to sympathize with Homelander, even though he was the one who decided to show more of Homelander's past trauma, thus humanizing him.
This right here is why so many adaptations fall apart.
They're bought up by people who don't respect or understand the source material, and the new changes they make break the story.
 
Jormungand said:
This right here is why so many adaptations fall apart.
They're bought up by people who don't respect or understand the source material, and the new changes they make break the story.
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Lets not pretend the source material is much better, anyone who did a "true" adaptation of that trash comic would only make something marginally better than we have gotten post season 1 (and I personally still think it probably would have been just as bad as what we have now).

Erik just exchanged something that was already shit with his own shit. Still just as offensively awful though.
 
marvlouslie said:
The entire show is based around "fuck Donald Trump", and you're surprised the final season is dogshit?
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The first season was based on the idea of the CIA wanting to wipe out superheroes before they became more powerful than the American government. The second season and on were purely dick and fart jokes and endless parodies of pop culture memes or Trump. Also the first season was written as part of a standalone series but when they got the approval for spinoffs and prequels it forced them to franchise and tie everything together. And now the final season is nothing more than a setup for two other spinoffs.

Invincible was the same. First season sets up these massive war against the Viltrumites. Then becomes fag romance and college students and tons of side content. Time travel and other dimensions that make caring about anything pointless as it can all be reset or invalidated. Now the show is openly promoting satanism and abortion and has nothing to do with superheroes.
 
marvlouslie said:
The entire show is based around "fuck Donald Trump", and you're surprised the final season is dogshit?
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If they really wanted to fuck Donald Trump, then they should've had Trump or a Trump expy on the show be a politician who does the same thing in real life, confident that Homelander and the supes will support him. But his ego and stupidity get so bad that Homelander and Soldier Boy put him out of their misery, and even the Boys agree that Homelander killing the guy was for a good cause. Maybe even have Butcher say that it's the first time he saw Homelander doing something genuinely good.

Reminds me of how Siskel and Ebert made fun of a Godzilla movie whose writers tried to parody them, but didn't even have the monster eat or squash them.

TheHarbinger said:
The first season was based on the idea of the CIA wanting to wipe out superheroes before they became more powerful than the American government.
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That never made any sense to me either. Especially with Homelander smuggling Compound V to terrorists all over the globe. Some of those terrorists must be CIA assets or someone they can get to. At this point, the CIA should've been able to get a sample of V, enough to create their own army of Supes ready to give Vought the beatdown of the century.

TheHarbinger said:
The second season and on were purely dick and fart jokes and endless parodies of pop culture memes or Trump. Also the first season was written as part of a standalone series but when they got the approval for spinoffs and prequels it forced them to franchise and tie everything together. And now the final season is nothing more than a setup for two other spinoffs.
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At this point, they're not even trying. They might as well end the final episode with Homelander and the Boys dropping the act and just advertising Vought Rising.

TheHarbinger said:
Invincible was the same. First season sets up these massive war against the Viltrumites. Then becomes fag romance and college students and tons of side content. Time travel and other dimensions that make caring about anything pointless as it can all be reset or invalidated. Now the show is openly promoting satanism and abortion and has nothing to do with superheroes.
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The war with the Viltrumites is over. The Viltrumites won. Sure, the "heroes" destroyed the Viltrum homeworld, but it was basically just a dump by then, and the Viltrumites just relocated to Earth to pull an Omni-Man and repopulate. And they promised to exterminate the planet's populace if anyone tries to stop them.

The heroes of Invincible are barely entities. At least the Vought heroes can franchise. The non-Viltrumite heroes in Invincible are just jobbers for Cecil to toss into the gore-fest.

Jormungand said:
So basically, Eric hated the source material and decided to make Black Noir a black guy, then got confused when people started to sympathize with Homelander, even though he was the one who decided to show more of Homelander's past trauma, thus humanizing him.
This right here is why so many adaptations fall apart.
They're bought up by people who don't respect or understand the source material, and the new changes they make break the story.
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"Cloning feels too magical" says the guy writing about dudes who can fly, shoot lasers, pop the heads off people, shrink and climb into another man's junk, and create ice dildos out of thin air.

It's about as consistent as a Hasidic who eats pork.

Jace on ice said:
Kripke is mega coping his career is over. Amazon gave him an easy layup and he fumbled it.
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Hell, if he wrote the series well, he'd have more seasons to develop things.

Jormungand said:
In fact, there's an entire article about him bitching about fans complaining about all the filler in the final season of his own show.
Constantly complaining about his fans and claiming they only want to see people fighting, even though one of the main premises of the comics was killing superpowered celebrities. Yet, the show is simply Eric Kirpke's whiny fanfic about how he hates Trump and people who follow him.
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It's the last season of a show about fighting evil superheroes, and he's angry people want to see fight scenes between the heroes and villains.

Really, this is just emblematic of modern Hollywood. Angry at the fans for wanting what was promised.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
That never made any sense to me either. Especially with Homelander smuggling Compound V to terrorists all over the globe. Some of those terrorists must be CIA assets or someone they can get to. At this point, the CIA should've been able to get a sample of V, enough to create their own army of Supes ready to give Vought the beatdown of the century.
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Even if none of the terrorists were CIA assets at least one of them would tell someone "Dude... A-Train injected me with a drug that made me a superhero!". You could argue that none of the parents of superheroes would blow the whistle as they are all Vought employees or former Nazis like Operation Paperclip. But Homelander just giving out Compound V samples to foreign extremists should have been the thing to reveal V to the world. More bad writing in hindsight. This entire world falls apart when you start to look at any of it seriously.
 
TheHarbinger said:
Even if none of the terrorists were CIA assets at least one of them would tell someone "Dude... A-Train injected me with a drug that made me a superhero!". You could argue that none of the parents of superheroes would blow the whistle as they are all Vought employees or former Nazis like Operation Paperclip. But Homelander just giving out Compound V samples to foreign extremists should have been the thing to reveal V to the world. More bad writing in hindsight. This entire world falls apart when you start to look at any of it seriously.
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Exactly. Someone somewhere out there would've studied Compound V and replicated it. Imagine terror cells and foreign governments with their own V programs, and Stan Edgar has to clean that shit up. Hell, I'd have it so that the Boys have to work with the Seven to take down some of these Supes, especially since some countries would have even less problems taking experiments farther to create the strongest Supes in existence.
 
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