The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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Im bothered that they put so little effort into the "Tek Cave". No suit, no bat computer analogue, no parody of Batmans "trophies" like the dinosaur and giant penny. Nope, its just a small sex dungeon he keeps his gimp sidekick in. They put more effort into the CGI for web weavers web asshole than they did for a character they've teased since season 1 and spent a whole spinoff setting up.
It doesn't even make sense for him to be called ''Tek Knight''. He doesn't have armor, he isn't tech-based, he's nothing like a knight. He's a super-sleuth with extra-sensory powers, who runs private prisons, and he's descended from slave-catchers. The original Tek-Knight was more like Iron Man, the show version is more like an evil Bruce Wayne, except he owns several revolving door prisons for profit, and those sexual rumors about him and Robin are true. The only thing he has in common with the original article is the fact that he's a sex pest.
 
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It doesn't even make sense for him to be called ''Tek Knight''. He doesn't have armor, he isn't tech-based, he's nothing like a knight. He's a super-sleuth with extra-sensory powers, who runs private prisons, and he's descended from slave-catchers. The only thing he has in common with the original article is the fact that he's a sex pest.
The weird thing is, why would he even want to be a superhero? He doesn't do the normal super stuff, he doesn't do street shit, or seemingly show up for promos. He's just a drama monger that uses his super senses. He can do that, without needing to out himself as a super human, since he's already absolutely filthy rich.
 
It doesn't even make sense for him to be called ''Tek Knight''. He doesn't have armor, he isn't tech-based, he's nothing like a knight. He's a super-sleuth with extra-sensory powers, who runs private prisons, and he's descended from slave-catchers. The only thing he has in common with the original article is the fact that he's a sex pest.
An autistic detail to notice, admittedly, but apparently he does actually wear a suit (which was set up in Gen V), and it makes a blink and you'll miss appearance in the scene where Ryan and Butcher play the Mortal Kombat knockoff game.
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Hes not wearing the helmet for some reason but you can tell he has a suit. Why they bothered to add this detail when his suit doesn't even show up in the Tek Cave is beyond me. They couldn't spare any budget to just make a practical suit that could show up in a display case or something? It wouldn't even have to be wearable it'd just need to be a setpiece.
 
The weird thing is, why would he even want to be a superhero? He doesn't do the normal super stuff, he doesn't do street shit, or seemingly show up for promos. He's just a drama monger that uses his super senses. He can do that, without needing to out himself as a super human, since he's already absolutely filthy rich.
Maybe he has a past of being a hero, and he calmed down after several years of being a hero. But we don't know for sure, because the show just showed him as a super-sleuth born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

An autistic detail to notice, admittedly, but apparently he does actually wear a suit (which was set up in Gen V), and it makes a blink and you'll miss appearance in the scene where Ryan and Butcher play the Mortal Kombat knockoff game.
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Hes not wearing the helmet for some reason but you can tell he has a suit. Why they bothered to add this detail when his suit doesn't even show up in the Tek Cave is beyond me. They couldn't spare any budget to just make a practical suit that could show up in a display case or something? It wouldn't even have to be wearable it'd just need to be a setpiece.
They were too cheap to even put a suit in a display case. That would've been enough. Imagine if the Boys take the suit and Hugie, who adored Tek-Knight as a kid, could take the suit and the name for himself. Make him somewhat useful other than being a dork people point and laugh at.

Hell, they should've had a battle with Tek-Knight wearing his suit. Have Homelander and the rich dipshits he's appealing to leave and go to some other place where they'd discuss the specifics of their plan, then the Boys fight Tek-Knight in his armor suit after they free Hughie and Tek-Knight runs to his armory.
 
She can never go back to being just Annie because of whatever the fuck happened to her face
I was genuinely hoping they had finished filming before she had work done. I will never understand why people think buccal fat removal looks good, it makes you look like an emaciated corpse. Mother's Milk looks fucked because he has Ozempic face. Body dysmorphia from being in a fucked up industry is a hell of a drug. Drugs are a hell of a drug too I guess.
 
This show made me reevaluate Zach Snyder's Watchmen adaptation, it got dragged at the time but man in terms of the "superheroes but flawed and nihilistic" Watchmen is like ten times better than this, better cinematography too, even with the Snyder cliches like vine boom and overuse of slow mo.
 
RE: the Tek Knight sperging. Remember he was a Supe movie star with a shitton of films that he mentions so that was probably where the suit comes from. I don't think he was ever a "real" Supe, just a rich kid that had everything, including superpowers, handed to him. They even say in Gen V that he was an alumni of their performing arts school. I think the "Gay Evil Bruce Wayne" analogy is probably what they were going for. Also maybe a shot a nepo baby actors like Jack Quaid that plays Hugie. I can see the sardonic humor in having an actor, who is benefitted from having rich, connected parents, play a character looking up to a superhero that ends up being an actor, that benefitted from having rich, connected parents. Who also rapes him.
 
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Maybe he has a past of being a hero, and he calmed down after several years of being a hero. But we don't know for sure, because the show just showed him as a super-sleuth born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
I thought that in Gen V, Tek Knight took on more of the role Batman had in the Justice League film, being out of suit and recruiting people to join the university/Justice League/cause or whatever. That would make sense with all the Zack Snyder references, but I think the team that wrote Gen V and the writing team for the Boys have zero communication. Kripke helped develop Gen V but I dont really think he gave a shit about its plot or larger narrative implications, leading to him "flanderizing" Tek Knight into a degenerate Sherlock Holmes that has a sex dungeon (he was already a sexpest but season 4 took that trait to its most extreme excesses, and made it define his character). Even in Gen V his portrayal was more nuanced, he came across as a Homelander type figure whose reputation preceeded him.
 
This show made me reevaluate Zach Snyder's Watchmen adaptation, it got dragged at the time but man in terms of the "superheroes but flawed and nihilistic" Watchmen is like ten times better than this, better cinematography too, even with the Snyder cliches like vine boom and overuse of slow mo.
That's because the heroes are actually allowed to be cool in that film. Rorschach especially. Which probably drove Alan Moore mad because he hated Rorschach fans.

In the Boys, you have Starlight, which is like imagine Katara from Avatar the Last Airbender, except more preachy and less wholesome. You have Hughie, who never grows out of being a pansy. You have the other characters like Frenchie, Kimiko, and MM, who just do stuff on the side and remain static characters. And you have Butcher, who keeps flip-flopping between "hardass who will do whatever it takes to win" and "misunderstood soft boi with a heart of gold". Then on the other side, you have Homelander, who is basically a murderous Superman that our "heroes" have failed to stop for four seasons straight. Is it any wonder people cheer for him instead of the heroes?

Rorschach believed in a code. A creed of justice. It drove him to kill criminals and enforce peace through force. And when confronted with the choice of breaking it for world peace, he'd rather die, and that he did. Meanwhile, the Boys just believe in the current version of liberal politics, they don't have a consistent code, and they're so pathetic that their enemy chose to spare them nine times out of ten. Quite literally, the only reason Homelander hasn't barged into their office and lasered them all into chunks is because he'd rather be loved than feared. But he made it clear to Starlight that he'd be more than comfortable with the latter if they pushed him.
 
What the hell is with this show and Better Call Saul dragging out the corpse of a 25 year old meme anyways?
 
One big problem is that Hughie never gets past the fact that he's a pansy. It looked like he was going to in previous seasons, but now, especially when he put on that costume and got laughed at, he really was just there to be the butt of the joke. If it's not him teleporting with his dick out, it's him putting on the costume of a failed Supe who smells like ass and failure and getting mocked by people whom he's saved multiple times. And the fact that Homelander, who has X-Ray vision and who can see Butcher's brain tumor inside him, didn't figure out that it was Hughie in that suit, or where Tek-Knight went, goes to show how inconsistent the show is with power scaling and abilities.

Compare Hughie to say, Amuro Ray from Mobile Suit Gundam. The kid starts out like a fucking pansy, and in the first few episodes, the only reason he survived in the battlefield is because daddy dearest made a billion-dollar monster Gundam that has super-armor which laughs off the enemy's attacks, a giant robot-sized lightsaber, and a super-gun that melts enemy robots like it's nothing. His commanding officer even slaps him in the face at one point because he whined like a little bitch in the middle of a combat situation.

But as time goes on, Amuro picks up skills and grows to become a more effective fighter. He starts winning battles thanks to his wits and skills, not just because of the robot's technology alone. It gets to the point where the enemy calls his Gundam the ''White Devil'' because it's killed so many of their guys. He effectively becomes a boogeyman for the enemy. Amuro eventually becomes a hardened war veteran whom others look to for guidance or inspiration. It's to the point where in Char's Counterattack, the last Gundam media with him in it chronologically, he is the leader of his team fighting against Char Aznable and Neo-Zeon.

Hughie never got to that point. He started out like a pansy in season 1, it's past half season 4, and he's still a pansy. He even had to be rescued like Princess Peach from Super Mario Brothers. The moment he saw Tek-Knight's sex dungeon, Hughie should've slammed the man's head on the wall when his back was turned and ran away. Tek-Knight doesn't even look like much of a fighter, he's more based on intelligence or sensing people's emotions, and the only other person there aside from the butler and the manslave was Ashley, not someone who's strong enough to force a grown man into chains, especially a younger man who would obviously be stronger than an older dude like Tek-Knight and his butler. At least Princess Peach has the excuse that the bigger, stronger Bowser and his soldiers kidnap her ass and dump her in a cell.

It would've made more sense if say, Tek-Knight noticed that Webweaver's web-butthole wasn't there, he deduces that this person is an impostor, he puts on the armor in his cave with the pretense of demonstrating its power, and he knocks out Hughie with it. Hughie wakes up tied down on a rack, and you could still have that scene with Ashley threatening to piss on him and Tek-Knight wanting to poke holes in him. Then you can have Kimiko show up and tear the armor apart, or have Starlight get so emotional at the sight of Hughie getting tortured that her powers come back and she fries the armor. But God forbid they actually use logic in a show that's supposed to poke holes at the illogical problems with capeshit.
 
I skipped over all the BDSM scenes and I didn't remembered much after my first viewing. Then I saw this meme and thought, "oh yeah, Hughie really did get molested by his childhood hero after his dad. died. wtf."
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Apparently even Reddit thinks this episode was tone deaf. Especially compared to Starlight getting throat-fucked by her former childhood hero as well in the first season.

Here are the sources for the quotes:
Starlight: https://archive.ph/W6fWk
Hughie: https://archive.ph/cTFN6
God reading this makes me want to punch the showrunner in the face

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I admit I enjoy the show, but the shit with the Tek Knight cave was utter degenerate horseshit and felt really tone deaf. Like this was clearly uncomfortable to watch, I really don't understand the humor in what was happening, felt too demeaning and gross to get a laugh especially with what happened to Hughie in the previous episode. It just feels unnecessarily mean spirited, and I kind of feel bad for Hughie's actor, like he wanted to do an espionage thing, but was forced to do weird BDSM.
 
One more thing i gotta say about the boys is that gross out stuff loses its appeal really fast. You can only show a guy doing some heinous act so often before people either get used to it or turn it off because they find the constant barrage unappealing. Game of thrones sufffered from similar issues
Why all the Homelander nerfs?

He went from Omni Man or Superman tier power at the beginning of the series then got reduced to maybe Captain America level and presently he's maybe even lower than that.

Even basic shit like his super hearing doesn't work correctly now.

Only thing I can think of is the writers realized it wasn't plausible for the Boys to be a threat to him and they couldn't figure out a way to organically make him get weaker so they said fuck it.

One of the keys to making a show with villain protagonist work (or a show where the villain is co-protagonist like Boyd Crowder in Justified) is to balance the bad shit characters do with having them do good shit or (as in the case of Boyd) you actively bring in a string of even worse antagonists for the bad guys to fight, either on their own or with the main hero's help.

Stormfront and Soldier Boy could have been this has they done them right.

Stormfront is a retired Voight heroine who is a retired Nazi that defected/the first person to successfully get GOOD powers via Compound V and survive the experience. She shows up and starts killing minorities who commit crime and using the media to slime Homelander as a fraud who doesn't do anything but meet and greets and photo ops. You have a legit rogue supe in her running around, not playing by the Voight handbook and tie in her return to public life to the cult Deep joins, which wants to take over the world and if they have to work with a Nazi to do it? So be it. And while she's mocking Homelander to his face, she's also flaunting her true motives in private with him while trying to seduce him to join her and the cult and rule as king and queen and ultimately her kidnapping Ryan and Becky (who she still kills) when Homelander tells her to get bent.

Meanwhile with Soldier Boy, they should have stuck with the version of him that was part of the initial leaks for season three that ultimately got changed when filming began: he's Captain America but evil (and functionally immortal), faked his death around the time of Vietnam with Voight's blessing, and was given a new identity which he used to become a major Oscar winning actor in Hollywood who (ala Marlena Deitrich) faded from public life in the early 90s at the height of his fame and success, who is brought back out of hiding (and coming out of the closet as Soldier Boy) to lead the Seven after Voight recognizes that Homelander is too screwed up to do it anymore. But in the time he's been away, he's started up a liberal version of the plot from Keeper of the Flames, seeking to insight race riots and cause other social tensions between the rich and the poor to explode so he can maneuver his mixed race bastard daughter Victoria Newman into the white house, where she will serve as his puppet to allow him to rule the United States as king.

But as it stands, they really really should have done a Lifedeath-style depowering storyline for Homelander this season. Homelander loses his powers at the hands of Soldier Boy and Ryan forces Butcher to spare him/let Ryan stay with him. And instead of killing a Starlight supporter, Homelander is put on trial for Semisonic's death instead; a murder he walks on, by Voight framing A-Train for the crime.

Homelander struggles with being normal, having no powers, and after his murder trial, fakes his death and goes into hiding amongst the rabble for a while. Meannwhile have Sister Sage come into play to fill the hole left by Homelander and be the Lex Luthor of the show and corrupting Ryan, while giving Homelander a redemption arc and heroic sacrifice death stopping Sister Sage and her plans.
 
God reading this makes me want to punch the showrunner in the face

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I admit I enjoy the show, but the shit with the Tek Knight cave was utter degenerate horseshit and felt really tone deaf. Like this was clearly uncomfortable to watch, I really don't understand the humor in what was happening, felt too demeaning and gross to get a laugh especially with what happened to Hughie in the previous episode. It just feels unnecessarily mean spirited, and I kind of feel bad for Hughie's actor, like he wanted to do an espionage thing, but was forced to do weird BDSM.
I had to stop reading at “Batman’s fascist underpinnings”. I don’t think understand what type of brain injury a person needs to think this.

Bruce Wayne has the charisma, money, intelligence, and a whole host of underhanded methods he could use to obtain actual political power.

He doesn’t. He plays a dumb playboy and then dresses up in a costume to catch people who are a danger to the citizens of Gotham, avoid killing them, and had them to the justice system so the rule of law can be applied.

Anyone who sees Batman as a fascist has only gained knowledge of popular culture from the worst idiots on Twitter and shouldn’t be involved in creating entertainment.

I’d bet he’s also never read The Boys and just occasionally glances at the Wikipedia articles about the comics.
 
For ages Batman was untouchable from the SJW anti-life rot but in recent years, he's been severely damaged by writers who believe the bullshit of him being a wealthy fascist who beats up poor people and the mentally ill. They've pretty much decimated his wealth via Joker stealing it and hijacking Wayne Enterprises and using it to nearly destroy Gotham and irreversibly damaging Bruce's company's good name so that it is no longer trusted, had Bruce turn a blind eye to mass looting and stores being burnt down because "insurance!" (ignoring that insurance companies don't immediately pay out insurance claims, WILL drag them out for as long as humanly possible if not look for loopholes to void policies, especially if a store was destroyed in a riot), and a bullshit crossover where the bulk of Bruce's sidekicks turned on him because Bruce refused to sanction or aid in a bullshit scheme where Selina would train all of Gotham's criminals to be high end cat burglars and unleash them onto the wealthy citizens of Gotham and that Batman and his crew would protect them from the cops as far as siding with said criminals to provide protection from law enforcement.
 
This show made me reevaluate Zach Snyder's Watchmen adaptation, it got dragged at the time but man in terms of the "superheroes but flawed and nihilistic" Watchmen is like ten times better than this, better cinematography too, even with the Snyder cliches like vine boom and overuse of slow mo.
Zach Snyder's Watchmen adaptation is (the full cut with the black freighter) about as close you can get to a perfect live action watchmen adaptation as physically possible.

The only criticism of it is that 3 and a half hours weren't enough time, but even then he managed to pull across 90% of the plot and story intact. When it comes to faithful book -> movie adaptations its second probably to only lord of the rings.
 
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