The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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So, two options:

Sister Sage knows A-Train is the traitor and isn't ratting him out as part of a secret scheme to undermine Homelander because she's not actually on his side. Which makes her dumb because she could have just not helped Homelander in the first place.

Sister Sage doesn't know A-Train is the traitor. Which makes her dumb because he's fucking obviously the traitor, as well as the fact that nothing in the show has indicated to me that the news man who gets framed would even have the access to leak any important information or steal shit from Homelander's room.
 
So, two options:

Sister Sage knows A-Train is the traitor and isn't ratting him out as part of a secret scheme to undermine Homelander because she's not actually on his side. Which makes her dumb because she could have just not helped Homelander in the first place.

Sister Sage doesn't know A-Train is the traitor. Which makes her dumb because he's fucking obviously the traitor, as well as the fact that nothing in the show has indicated to me that the news man who gets framed would even have the access to leak any important information or steal shit from Homelander's room.
The problem with making a super genius character is that is only as smart as the writers.
 
Sister Sage knows A-Train is the traitor and isn't ratting him out as part of a secret scheme to undermine Homelander because she's not actually on his side. Which makes her dumb because she could have just not helped Homelander in the first place.
She knows A-Train did it. He got caught stealing Stormfront's files from The Collective religion. He got caught running Compound V for Homelander. So A-Train always gets caught as part of his character. She basically told him "find someone to frame or I give you up to Homelander". Because she obviously sees that Homelander is mentally unstable and needs to be controlled.
 
The problem with making a super genius character is that is only as smart as the writers.
That's the same problem that happened with Thrawn back in Star Wars. With the books where he came from, the dude who wrote him, Timothy Zahn, had a rudimentary understanding of military tactics and strategies in a sci-fi world, so at least there's the illusion of Thrawn being smart. The kind of smart you'd see in a young adult novel. But in the live-action and cartoon shows like Ahsoka and Rebels, those shows are written by a kids' cartoon producer, Dave Filoni, and it shows. Thrawn only passes off the illusion of being smart, while anyone with a decent grasp of tactics and strategies can see all the errors in Thrawn's judgement that are all over the place. The end result is that Thrawn comes off as an overhyped windbag.

The best way I've seen this done is in Three Kingdoms, but that book is partially based on the real-life history of the Three Kingdoms' War in China, so when someone like Cao Cao or Zhuge Liang does something smart, it genuinely is smart, because they're just jotting down what smart guys in real life military conflicts did. So the book comes off as really smart with its tactical characters, because the strategies and tactics were based on the real-life tactics of men who were considered prodigies in such matters, men who actually won wars in real life thanks to their strategies.

Sage is written to be the smartest person on the planet by liberal media people. As such, their idea of the smartest person on the planet is a back-talking woman of color who insults white people all the time. The sad thing is, there's normal, everyday people who are smarter than the people who write Sage's story, so of course, instead of coming off as the smartest person in the world, she just comes off as a cocky, condescending bitch. The problem isn't the character, the problem is that Eric Kripke isn't smarter than Dave Filoni. He's at the same level, if not worse.

If this was written smart, Sage would've told Firecracker ahead of time that Starlight will come to beat the shit out of her-and her orders are to not strike back. That way, the savaging becomes public and Starlight is ruined, just like in the show, and come next episode, Firecracker tells Sage that her strategy worked just as planned, and Sage assuages her that a broken nose is worth it just to see Starlight's popularity dwindle to nothing. Instead of it just being a racial catfight, it would've been part of Sage and Firecracker's plan to have Starlight go full Omni-Man on the latter, just so the latter can claim to be a victim.

Then the next logical step for Sage after ruining Starlight's clout would be to help Homelander tear Butcher's party apart one by one, by figuring out each member's weakness and exploiting it. Once they're out of the picture, Homelander's path to power would be complete. You could've even worked in that gay romance subplot with Frenchie; instead of the guy figuring out that Frenchie killed his family members, Sage would be the one to bring that revelation, which would lead to the guy attacking Frenchie, Frenchie feeling guilty enough to turn himself over to the cops, further crippling Butcher's party.
 
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Which makes her dumb because she could have just not helped Homelander in the first place.
Not necessarily. We don't know her plan but she definitely finds some enjoyment in the ability to run large scale manipulation tactics, likely to fuel her ego. She's probably helping Homelander for that reason alone but I also don't believe she's secretly a "good guy" who plans on destroying homelander though if the writers aren't retarded she'll likely try to learn about any way to control him. She has absolutely no reason to rat out A-train other than to prove she's loyal but homelander already believe she's loyal and not giving him allows her to bribe A-train.

I know this show has some poor writing in many places but this isn't an example of that.
 
Not necessarily. We don't know her plan but she definitely finds some enjoyment in the ability to run large scale manipulation tactics, likely to fuel her ego. She's probably helping Homelander for that reason alone but I also don't believe she's secretly a "good guy" who plans on destroying homelander though if the writers aren't retarded she'll likely try to learn about any way to control him.
She's clearly afraid of Homelander and recognizes that he is insane and unpredictable. She's feeding him advice and information and he's busy having a PTSD episode about the Vought scientists he just brutally tortured and revenge killed. Her character is clearly a parallel to people like A-Train or Stillwell. In that they are terrified of Homelander but have to work with him. And both turned on him. Ryan will probably turn on him in this season.

And they don't know if he'll snap at any moment. Which is the reason why Starlight or Maeve didn't leak the plane hijacking failed rescue video. Because it would probably send Homelander over the edge instead of controlling him. Homelander going mental is the biggest stalled plot of the entire show. They know that once Homelander goes nuts and the government and Boys finally have to kill him ends the show effectively. So it's taking forever.
Does anyone know of a site with really good summaries of each episode with spoilers? Sometimes I like to read tv shows instead of watching them and The Boys is one of those shows for me.
If the wikis are not updated you'll want to find places that write reviews like AVClub or whatever. Looks like whoever wrote the summaries in Wikipedia stopped doing it midway through the second season and never returned.

 
It was just confirmed from a prominent leaker that the actress who played Maeve quit the show over harassment from Homelander's actor. Which was the rumor going around for a while. That she left the show on her own despite it being her biggest acting break. Homelander's actor is supposedly a mess off screen. But he's the face of the show so they won't dare fire him.
 
As if a black man from the ghetto that works in a juvenile detenction center would ever even think much less utter the phrase "sex workers".
Should we break down how the dialogue would actually play out on this one?

> tries to be an edgy show
> still can't say nigger
 
It was just confirmed from a prominent leaker that the actress who played Maeve quit the show over harassment from Homelander's actor. Which was the rumor going around for a while. That she left the show on her own despite it being her biggest acting break. Homelander's actor is supposedly a mess off screen. But he's the face of the show so they won't dare fire him.
On one hand, the source supplying the leaks is a total shitshow and lolcow in their own right and their connection to the inside source saying he's responsible is dubious at best, plus the actress publicly stated she was going back to school in Ireland and has a track record of leaving shows abruptly. They seemed to be fine together in blooper reels but who knows, that stuff is curated anyway.

On the other, didn't he already get arrested a couple of years ago for glassing a chef half his age and fighting him with no provocation while drunk? I'm honestly shocked he made it through that controversy unscathed. He doesn't seem to have that warm off a relationship with the full cast but they could have sided with Erin Bogiarty in the breakup.

Whatever the truth, it's pretty fucking annoying to see fags claim that it makes sense and must be true, simply because he was TOO GOOD at playing the villain!!! Why the fuck is it sinister to just be good at your job
 
I have only watched clips of the latest, but they are working really hard to make me like Firecracker over Starlight. She is holding her accountable over being an alpha bitch, and being an hypocrite all while having an abortion. It grinds my gears how lefties always portray anyone that questions how nonchalant they are about abortion as evil. Even if you are "pro-choice" its disnegenous to pretend there aren't any moral and ethical questions.

But Starlight and Hugie have the "correct opinions" and christianity bad, so I am supposed to cheer on them no matter what. And everyone that questions their shitty behaviour is evil, I guess.

Theres also some character assasination on Starlight because the entire point of her character is that she was kind naive girl in a world that is corrupt and cynical. But it seems not even the 20 Starlight fans out there care so theres that.
 
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You know I didn't even notice the obvious indications that Kessler is a hallucination because the writing is just so bad in general ever since last season that I just wrote him off as a poorly written new character that exists to make the story move forward kind of like the 3 other awkward and badly written characters introduced this season to make the story move forward.

Some screenshots of The Boys wiki as of this writing, I hope this glorious work stays up for at least the rest of today if not the weekend

I'm glad we still have this archived to remind us when watching this show was remotely fun.
 
> tries to be an edgy show
> still can't say nigger
The antagonist of season 2 is a literally old school hardcore nazi that was in the actual nazi party turned neonazi that is openly a white supremacist and hates all nonwhites and wants them purged and is literally called STORMFRONT and the closest thing she gets to a slur is calling a japanese terrorist a "yellow bastard" once.
 
The antagonist of season 2 is a literally old school hardcore nazi that was in the actual nazi party turned neonazi that is openly a white supremacist and hates all nonwhites and wants them purged and is literally called STORMFRONT and the closest thing she gets to a slur is calling a japanese terrorist a "yellow bastard" once.
Or when Stromfront killed that black lady's older brother when Stormfront was Liberty and all she said was "black piece of shit." Fat Albert had more bite than this.
 
You know I didn't even notice the obvious indications that Kessler is a hallucination because the writing is just so bad in general ever since last season that I just wrote him off as a poorly written new character that exists to make the story move forward kind of like the 3 other awkward and badly written characters introduced this season to make the story move forward.
That's the walking dead guy? Why do you say he's a hallucination?
I noticed that he only interacts with Butcher but I might have missed something.
 
That's the walking dead guy? Why do you say he's a hallucination?
I noticed that he only interacts with Butcher but I might have missed something.
He only appears when Butcher is alone, also at the end of episode 5 the scientist guy looks really confused when Butcher says "We'll get you patched up" and glances around as if no ones there and Butcher is by himself.
 
It was just confirmed from a prominent leaker that the actress who played Maeve quit the show over harassment from Homelander's actor. Which was the rumor going around for a while. That she left the show on her own despite it being her biggest acting break. Homelander's actor is supposedly a mess off screen. But he's the face of the show so they won't dare fire him.
Anthony Starr seems like the meanest New Zealander out there.
 
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