The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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I wonder if the other cast members constantly think “what the fuck” whenever they have scenes with her. Obviously surgery and injections are routine for Hollywood, but she went so far it’s hard to look away.

If you compare her with every other cast member in that Vanity Fair interview, she looks so odd. Everyone else is dressed normally and looks relaxed and she looks like a cheap IG whore ready to drop an OF link at the first opportunity.

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@soulgains One thing I noticed in this episode is MM's daughter not giving a fuck about Todd's death
Not only her having no reaction, but it has meant nothing to the story at all. Just another example of how poorly written this season is. Kind of like the whole arc of dosing Hughie’s dad. WTF was the point of any of that??
 
I just hate how safe edgy the show is
It's the kind of edgy where the local Supe pastor is a gay Reed Richards knockoff, while a dude dressed like Christ skates around and cuts off people's fingers, not the kind of edgy where the "strong empowered female" gets her ass whooped by the bad guy and is forced to have sex with the 5000 members of his royal guard. It's to the point where they won't even give Maeve a heroic death putting down Soldier Boy, just because they don't want a gay character to die, not even when doing something heroic.

In other words, they're only willing to be edgy to offend Christians and capeshit fans. Nobody else. If Soldier Boy and Stormfront were racist, they'd be yelling out words like "NIGGER" all the time. Given that Soldier Boy came from an upper class white family that owned half the steel mills in Pennsylvania pre-WW2, he should be calling MM a negro to Butcher's face without any tremor of remorse, because that's how people from the Greatest Generation acted. SB would see MM coming at him with a mean face and a baseball bat, and he'd turn to Butcher and say something like "keep your negro in line" or something to that effect.
 
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This show is obsessed with showing their stand-ins getting beaten to death. You know all the faggots that write this show would do that in a heartbeat to the real Tucker Carlson if they could.

For the side that constantly talks about love and tolerance, they absolutely fucking hate anyone who opposes their beliefs and want them all to die.

It's legitimately upsetting how utterly fucking contemptuous they are of Christianity or anyone to the right of Marx and how they just get away with it. If a show ever applied the same thing to Muslims or Jews, the showrunners would be blacklisted fucking forever.
 
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The more they try to make me hate Homelander the more I like him.

It’s REALLY lost it’s way this series. Just have hot Japanese mute cowgirl Frenchie for an entire episode to balance out all the naked dudes and gay shit you’ve had.
 
You think she does this every day?

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I never really believed in the whole conspiritard "humiliation ritual" thing but this is making me reconsider.

She was 100% hired initially for her looks, then the industry convinced her she wasn't good looking enough so she got a shit-ton of surgery and now looks freakish and the industry is basically having her publicly point and laugh at herself for ruining her appearance.

I genuinely feel bad for her. Looking into the mirror and seeing a sunken-eyed ghoul and knowing that you chose it has to fuck with a womans head.
 
Kind of worth mentioning but MM looks really weird this season with his beard cut off. In a lot of scenes he looks more like a dad in a bad way, he looks a lot less menacing and "strong" without the beard. I don't know if it was the actors decision to not have the beard anymore or what but I don't like it and me and some friends legitimately couldn't tell if it was a different actor in the first episode. Also, just found it funny that this random part I paused at made him look like he was from a video game, dunno how they managed to do that by accident.

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I actually got around to watching the rest of gen v to understand the one plot point that's relevant in the main show, catching up and I'm just bombarded with more dicks. I just want to see over the top gratuitous gore, please no more dicks.
I will forever hate that show for taking away one of my favorite moments from the comic books. Also, it's a waste of time, the Gen-V recap from the latest episode is all you really need to know from that show.

You think she does this every day?

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Annie in the comic has boobjob, boobjob not bogjob goddamn it

I mentioned I've only been watching YT clips of the show. I don't even know who Frenchie and MM are tbh. Wasn't Butcher like the main character of the comic? Weird they have him as a recurring side character on the Homelander show.
Even though Butcher took most of the spotlights in the comic, Hughie is the main character. Most of the story is told from his perspective. The show made a mistake by making the supes, especially Homelander relatable which is the exact opposite of the comic books.
 
1. Voight is super fucking corrupt and basically is Evil-Corp incarnated. It's stated that they have insane amount of power to basically buy and sell Congress five times over PLUS have been working on the long game to get one of their own (Vic the Veep, the comic version of Victoria) into the White House as President.

They have enough power, politically, that they never face any consequences for their military weapons malfunctioning in the middle of battle or their military vehicles being literal death traps (once case in particular, that the comic mentions, is that the helicopters they sold to the army during Vietnam were so fucked up that they were literal death traps due to the ejector seat not working in them). Let along the crap that their super heroes do carnage-wise. It's also why they manage to keep the government off their backs about seizing V for themselves or nationalizing the company and handing out the formula to rival companies to maximize creating super heroes for the army: which leads to.....
Again, if a company makes bad shit for the military, capitalism would just kick in and they'd get shut down or bought out by another company who makes better shit for the grunts. If Vought-American functioned in the real world, they'd eventually tank and get bought out by Lockheed Martin or some other military-industrial complex giant. Unless Vought had a monopoly over the military-industrial complex, or they ARE the military-industrial complex as a whole, their power would be limited. That, and if their crap gets soldiers killed, no politician would dare associate with them or vouch for them. Fucking with the military can get political careers killed. Just ask Joe McCarthy.

2. the fact that a major part of The Boys is Voight WANTS to get super heroes in the military and part of the reason for their quest to put Vic the Veep into the Presidency, is to have Vic do so. In the show, they fuck up the storyline by way of Homelander getting this done but in the comic, the military successfully cockblocks having super heroes in the military. This also ties into why there are no super cops and shit, because cops, first responders, and firefighters, and the military in general have threatened to go on strike ala the Police Strike in the backstory of Watchmen, if Voight or local/national government started replacing regular people in these jobs with super powered beings.
The military buys shitty guns and vehicles from Vought and lets their men get killed by them, but then all of a sudden, says no when Vought wants to have super-heroes be cannon fodder joining the grunts in combat operations. The comic is so inconsistent with how powerful/influential Vought is. If anything, the grunts wouldn't like having shitty Vought guns or vehicles, but would welcome superheroes on their side so that the bad guys shoot at the morons with the colorful costumes while the real soldiers gun down the bad guys from behind.

3. Which in turn leads to the fact that Voight EXPLICITLY keeps their super heroes dumb, useless, docile, and undertrained to keep them under their thumb. 99% super-heroes in The Boys are fake heroes who do everything but fight crime and the few that DO get to do shit, are 100% strictly limited to first responder shit (and even that's basic bitch training they get) and even then, only in instances of extreme danger are they deployed. Voight spoils their super powered manchildren with money, liquor, hookers, etc to keep them from getting ideas and even then, will tolerate a shockingly high amount of perversion and depravity before they'll even think about killing a super-hero for line stepping. It's shown, with the plot oint about what happened when capes were used in WW2 (getting killed and a lot of innocent soldiers killed/placed in POW camps in WW2, as was the case of one particular character in the comic, who spent all of WW2 in a particular brutal Nazi POW camp because, first mission in Europe after arriving there as an 18 year old draftee, Voight forced his squad to take on a super-hero member for publicity purposes and the cape, within hours of being put in the group, retardedly did something that gave away the squad's position, resulting in the guy spending about 3-4 years being tortured and brutalized in said Nazi POW camp and then being forced, when he was let go when the war ended, into staying 100% silent about how Voight's cape fucked up lest he get shot in the head and buried in an unmarked grave near the prison camp and his family never being alerted to the fact that their son was alive after all.
This makes it even more stupid that the people of that world idolize Supes like they're the next best thing since sliced bread. In the real world, people idolize superheroes because they're fictional beings, and as fictional beings, they kick ass in movies and impress the general audience. But if supes were crimefighting in the real world and were incompetent, degenerate baboons, you can bet your ass that MS-13 or La Cosa Nostra would be leaving corpses of Supes who tried to bust in on their territory as a warning on the road. Groups like the Albanian or Russian mobs would be putting out bounties on Supes and killing Supes as a hobby. People wouldn't idolize Supes, they'd either be laughing at them, or thinking about how that poor Supe who tried to investigate some crime-ridden neighborhood got captured and tortured by the local mafia don until they became a house pet or a sex slave for the gang. That shit that happened with Starlight getting gang-raped by Black Noir, Homelander, and A-Train would repeat all over the country, except instead of Supes raping other Supes, the rapists would be common gangsters or made men serving the local mafia don or gang leader.

What is it with British grimdark stories not making sense with the worldbuilding? First Watchmen, then Warhammer 40K, and even the Boys comic. People like Alan Moore and Garth Ennis really don't think things through when building their worlds. The Cold War wouldn't last if the Americans had a living teleporter/disintegrator who could make multiple copies of himself and teleport all the Russian nukes into outer space or shoot them down, and the Vought Supes wouldn't be hailed as heroes in a world where simple dudes with fucking guns could kill them. If a paramilitary squad working for Vought could massacre an entire school full of Supes, you can bet that your average mafia with sufficient financial backing could do so, too. And since the government already supports the Boys against the Vought Supes, you can bet your ass Uncle Sam can afford to ''misplace'' some military equipment so that some patriotic citizens could put the Supes down.

As for culture shit, there is the fact that The Boys is a world forever obsessed with capeshit super-heroes. And there is a lot of stuff where, in the comics and TV show, they explore the idea that if you are pretty and have basic bitch talent, Voight will fund your non-cape dreams so long as you do it for a Voight subsidiary.
Case in point, Soldier Boy and Starlight both had exs who had singing careers. Black Noir was an actor who had enough major credits to his name and popularity, that he was seriously in the running for the lead in Beverly Hills Cops. Tek Knight, in the TV show, has his own Dateline TV crime documentary series, and the entire "Capes For Christ" thing. The implication being, that super-hero culture is like teenybopper culture and most are flash in the pan shit for young kids and 20-something manchildren and while popular, only a handful IE the Seven, have any real staying power in the world of pop culture.
In the show, it makes sense that the people idolize Supes, since they're actually effective fighters despite causing collateral damage. Someone like Starlight or Victoria can tank a shot to the face and melt you or make your head explode. But in the comics, dudes with guns kill them all the time, which makes no sense as to why people idolize them.

At least in our world, people adore superheroes because superhero movies have displayed them as effective fighters. But if the superheroes are a real thing and they're degenerate, clumsy retards that your average mob boss can kill, then nobody would be admiring them. Not only would you have so many stories of Supes being assholes that would be too numerous for even Vought to cover up, but even those who would sympathize with the Supes won't adore them like gods when the Supes are such clumsy clods that dudes with guns could kill them.

The only Supe worth a damn who wouldn't go down easily is Homelander, but then you can just have the Boys, who in the comics are super-powered, along with Starlight, gang up on his ass and whoop him. Shit, Black Noir does it for them in the comics, so that problem solved itself. If the Boys want a Homelander clone of their own, they can just have Starlight offer to fuck Homelander and then scrape some gunk off her for their DNA sample.

This show is obsessed with showing their stand-ins getting beaten to death. You know all the faggots that write this show would do that in a heartbeat to the real Tucker Carlson if they could.

For the side that constantly talks about love and tolerance, they absolutely fucking hate anyone who opposes their beliefs and want them all to die.
Well, it's the same as with male feminists who speak about respecting women then turn out to be perverts. These ''tolerant'' people will beat conservatives to death with a crowbar if it were legal. Shit, they were doing that years ago when Orange Man won the White House seat against all odds.

It's legitimately upsetting how utterly fucking contemptuous they are of Christianity or anyone to the right of Marx and how they just get away with it. If a show ever applied the same thing to Muslims or Jews, the showrunners would be blacklisted fucking forever.
They've been doing it for decades, pal. Even a decade ago, you had people openly deriding religion in general and Christianity in particular while repeating Marxist talking points in the media and politics.

The more they try to make me hate Homelander the more I like him.

It’s REALLY lost it’s way this series. Just have hot Japanese mute cowgirl Frenchie for an entire episode to balance out all the naked dudes and gay shit you’ve had.
You know the people who write this shit went to feminism classes where they were told that making women sexy is degrading and objectifying.

They'd rather eat a bullet than have a hot Japanese girl do that.

I mentioned I've only been watching YT clips of the show. I don't even know who Frenchie and MM are tbh. Wasn't Butcher like the main character of the comic? Weird they have him as a recurring side character on the Homelander show.
This pretty much is the Homelander show. Homelander carries the show, he's the most popular character both in the show and in video game tie-ins, and I imagine if they try to make a post-Homelander show for the Boys, it just won't work, unless it's an epilogue and Butcher goes bananas trying to kill all Supes like in the comic.
 
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Nothing on the show is consistent. Victoria is shown to be able to cut herself open with a regular knife. Meaning her skin can be easily pierced. In another scene she has a bucket of acid thrown into her face without warning and is completely immune. Stormfront is able to survive bullets and explosions. But then in the same scene a human throws a knife through her eye. Homelander has superhuman hearing and smell. But then can't detect Hughie in the air ducts and decides to blindly fire lasers in a crowded room instead of just flying around and getting up close for the kill.

Also, Stormfront is shown to be able to heal because she takes a fucking lasering from Homelander to her chest without permanent damage yet his son is able to chop her legs off and damage her permanently? She's 100% not dead btw because you know those Jews wouldn't just let her die off camera and not show her dying in the most torturous, gratuitously violent way possible.

That's one of the most annoying things about the show besides the insufferable liberal politics. All of the powers the heroes have are only as strong or as weak as is convenient for the story.

Oh yeah, and using airosol Novichok is fucking retarded because that shit would have poisoned anyone applying it.
 
Oh yeah, and using airosol Novichok is fucking retarded because that shit would have poisoned anyone applying it.
They just did this again with the sheep having the superhero virus in them. In Gen V it was an airborne strain that was highly infectious. But then they released those infected superheroes and nothing happened. Now the virus was in sheep that were within mere inches of a few superheroes and they were not even bothered nor afraid of being infected nor contaminated.
 
One big thing I had to comment on was Starlight and Frenchie talking about God, and how Frenchie believes that some sins cannot be forgiven.

A. Some sins, according to Scripture and the Catholic tradition that Frenchie obviously used to follow, cannot be forgiven, like sins against the Holy Spirit.

B. It's quite funny for them to talk about sins that can't be forgiven given how sinful their lives are. Frenchie bitching about confession when really, it works on the principle of if you mean to repent. The priest acts in the place of Christ and helps a sinner find penance for their sins, since it's not just confessing and the sins going away. You also have to follow the priest's direction for penance, be it prayer, apologizing to the person you sinned against, or something else.

Also, Starlight could've just fucked off back to her hillbilly village instead of blowing the Deep. I mean, a good Christian would rather tank their career rather than engage in sinful behavior. So if Starlight followed the faith, she would've just left and accused the Deep of soliciting sexual favors from her. She would just refuse the Deep's request and do as Christ commanded of His disciples, leave the Vought tower, shake the dust off her feet, and move on.

Also, Stormfront is shown to be able to heal because she takes a fucking lasering from Homelander to her chest without permanent damage yet his son is able to chop her legs off and damage her permanently? She's 100% not dead btw because you know those Jews wouldn't just let her die off camera and not show her dying in the most torturous, gratuitously violent way possible.
I seem to remember that Stormfront committed suicide by biting off her own tongue, causing Homelander to force that Jewish girl to jump off the roof.

That's one of the most annoying things about the show besides the insufferable liberal politics. All of the powers the heroes have are only as strong or as weak as is convenient for the story.
Welcome to capeshit power-scaling. Unlike shonen anime where the fans obsess over power levels, and they literally put in on a scale and say ''X is ten times as strong as Y'', capeshit just solves that problem by deciding on a whim how strong a given power is.

For a show that's supposed to parody capeshit, The Boys is quickly becoming one. It's no longer a satire of capeshit stories, it is one, albeit just a darker version of one.

Oh yeah, and using airosol Novichok is fucking retarded because that shit would have poisoned anyone applying it.
Capeshit isn't known for being scientifically accurate.

They just did this again with the sheep having the superhero virus in them. In Gen V it was an airborne strain that was highly infectious. But then they released those infected superheroes and nothing happened. Now the virus was in sheep that were within mere inches of a few superheroes and they were not even bothered nor afraid of being infected nor contaminated.
That bothered me this whole episode. They were searching for a virus. The least they could've done is wear full-body armor that covers the face, or a hazmat suit.
 
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I seem to remember that Stormfront committed suicide by biting off her own tongue, causing Homelander to force that Jewish girl to jump off the roof.
Offscreen. She and the actor who plays Soldier Boy are under contract to appear again. Soldier Boy's scene already leaked to the internet. Stormfront being Homelander's mother will probably be a major plot point next season. With the actress returning to confirm it to Homelander or maybe Butcher or Ryan.
 
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Isn't this I think like the 20th time they've made this joke which is weird because they've already spun off The Boys now, and Kripke has supposedly pitched other spin-offs at Amazon like The Boys: Mexico.
 
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I literally came here to post about this, and how fucking annoyed it made me when I saw it.

Like everything else The Boys TV show does, it's so fucking lame and already outdated because nobody cares about the MCU and it's incredibly convoluted 'phases' any more. Red Letter Media used to make jokes about that almost a decade ago now, with the Nerd Crew. Has Eric Kripke only just discovered the Internet or something? Is he perpetually behind the fucking times?

It's also immediately undercut by the fact that Amazon are desperately trying to do something like this with The Boys as a franchise itself.

Aside from The Boys: Diabolical (the series of animated shorts, that I'll be generous and say I actually kind of liked - particularly the one with Jason Isaacs as Butcher) and that future upcoming project set in Mexico in The Boys universe, you have Gen V - the showrunners of which were really keen on social media to announce would be crossing over with The Boys proper, with characters from that show having cameos in the main series.

You don't get to make fun of people for doing the thing, and then do the thing yourself, you fucking hacks.
 
And yet try as he might, the people that Eric Kripke wants us to despise are the ones that people fall in love with. Homelander, Soldier Boy, Stan Edgar, they held up the show. They made Homelander into an insane Super-Trump, and yet people tune in to the show just to see him. They made Soldier Boy the poster child for toxic masculinity, and yet he's the most memorable character from Season 3. Stan Edgar personified the soulless, Machiavellian capitalism of a company like Vought, yet his scenes were always a treat to watch, especially with the scenes where he put Homelander down or discussed the politics and situation with Vought and other people.

It's kind of like how GRRM, being the leftist hippie twat that he is, wrote Tywin Lannister to be a petty, backstabbing, rich boy shitheel in the ASOIAF books, yet Tywin is the best character in the Game of Thrones show, to the point where fans admired and loved him. The quality of the show died with him.

Kripke will have to save Homelander's death for S5's end. Otherwise, if he tries to do the show without Homelander, it just won't have the same charm anymore.
The effect of leftwingers trying to satirize right wingers and accidentally ending up making them the most universally beloved characters of the property in question needs to be studied. Same thing happened with Rorschach, keep your rifle by your side, liberty prime, etc.

The fact that in the boys it somehow happened TWICE, with both homelander AND soldier boy is actually incredible.
 
I've said before, I actually think that making Homelander such a ham-fisted Trump stand-in is fucking retarded. If you watch the first series, it was clear that the character was never really designed to be that way - series one Homelander was a much more interesting character. The strongest, most powerful superhero there is (why, he can even fly! ;) ), who can, as he repeats to himself like a sad little mantra, "Do whatever the fuck he wants," but riddled with anxieties and mummy issues, deeply insecure and self-loathing underneath his posturing, constantly fighting his overriding need for everybody to like him.

I think making a character like Homelander political shows a lack of understanding of the character. Homelander wouldn't be interested in right-wing vs. left-wing. He wouldn't be a Republican OR a Democrat. He's the fucking Homelander. He, by his very nature, considers himself above such things.
 
Even then that's all undermined by the fact that Soldier Boy is a sex pest who founded Herogasm... Well, they never stated there was any minors there. Which makes this arguably one of the most unrealistic things in the show. Let's be honest Herogasm would basically be Superhero Epstein Island, not a place for le quirky consenting adult sex.
This reminds me about when MM talked about herogasm and was clutching his pearls going "Did you know, they abuse sex workers here???"

As if a black man from the ghetto that works in a juvenile detenction center would ever even think much less utter the phrase "sex workers".

I don't remember if it was a twitter post or a video or what but I remember someone talking about wanting niggas to be real niggas again instead of domesticated pacified (buck broken even) unintimidating soycucks.

I know dave chapelle has talked about how hollywood tries to feminize black men but there was someone else that pointed out an enormous chunk of popular/iconic black characters are harmless effeminiate nerds.
 
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