The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

SOMETHING has to be happening behind the scenes because it's super suss that Kripke has gone full career suicide all of a sudden.

while you may be onto something, i think its more the zionists putting pressure on him than Republicans. From what i know, every person voting trump this year could cancel their amazon accounts and sell their amazon stocks en masse and it wouldn't cause Jeff to shed a single fucking tear. If anything there's more evidence that "the pendulums won't swing back" than ever before. and if anything a Trump win might help them because suddenly their show might be a bit less looney tunes. But if some jew at synagogue came up to him and went "not for nothing, but trump and his voters are the only ones not protesting our race's continued survival; maybe you should lay off" he'd behave similarly as he's doing now.

The other reason i feel its a jew on jew crime, is because if it really was just some conservative muckraker you'd have jimmy kimmel and every other lib, jew, and shabbos supporting him and he'd have no reason not to call out the fuckery going on. Jews of all people are so fucking scared of another blacklist that Kripke would only act like this if it was some passive agressive response to someone who he thought of as more of a friend fucking him over. That would probably explain the post-release cancelation too, someone not even connected to Amazon told them to "shut it down" and Amazon complied. People forget how non-christian Supernatural was and how much it probably got harassed by the religious right for being sacrilegious yet the WB kept supporting the show, even after Kripke himself was done with it. the fact that this is almost literally the first time the jew was told no and couldn't go "those fucking X, they always had it out for jews" means it was probably some billionaire level jew who has enough social awareness to know where things are going that doesn't want a show to convince more people not to support what is starting to seem like the only political party still supporting israel.

I don't know about your google skills but see how Kripke might have felt about Israel before october of last year, i know Seth Rogan openly said he wasn't a zionist and called them freaks when he was on Marc Maron's podcast years ago, and maybe that was just youthful ignorance but if Kripke's the same way it might be evidence for why he's now being treated like a common Goy. If he decided to be the only jew who went "good, hamas deserves some Ws aganist those monsters" then he'd make a perfect example of what happens when you try to betray your race.

Honestly it will probably come out years from now but i have a feeling i'm onto something with this, because like you said, its odd for a jew to be taken down like this for mocking the golems unless the jews seriously want to make an example out of a guy as a way to prove they mean business on a "new rule" because you'd assume being in charge of one of the biggest shows in america at this point would give him a blank check and for no other jew around him seeming to support him in this means it had to be something very unique about his situation.

I like Samuel Jackson but I feel he was weird as Fury in the movies.

he was barely used until Captain Marvel when he was an entirely different character it felt like. I think age might have also been a massive part of it, but mainly he didn't really do much, if you didn't know about the comics you'd assume he was just a regular ass dude, no more heroics than Hawkeye.

 

[Point and Laugh]

I remember an interview with some “insider” (it may have been prior to the release) that if Rings of Power didn’t hit a certain target Amazon would cut back on producing shows. I have no idea how true that is but given the rightful reception of that show, it wouldn’t shock me if smaller ones get cut just to keep that abomination going a little longer. The budget for it is massive but cancelling it would be admitting it bombed.

The woman who plays Annie definitely got buccal fat removal which is likely the cause of her being mush mouthed.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

that if Rings of Power didn’t hit a certain target Amazon would cut back on producing shows

its bullshit but i believe it, in general it never made sense for Amazon to make shows, prime streaming is just a bonus for people. the two day or less shipping is why people brought it.

But as others have said, with how much money they've made putting Homelander in any fucking GaaS thing they can, you'd think The Boys wouldn't be on the chopping block. by all accounts its the most popular show Amazon has by a huge margin. Reacher might be a close 2nd, but that one is probably way cheaper

 

[Tepes Thot]

So is it confirmed it’s canceled? Because I know the cope will be “it was always going to have 5 seasons” for the propagandists, but what’s the real deal?

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Not unrelated, discussion in this thread made me re-evaluate Ennis somewhat. I'm still pretty sure that Crossed is his personal fap material stash, but I increasingly believe that much of his output is dictated by the fact that entering the entertainment industry exposed him to real-life degeneracy that was too much even for a man of such fetishes. The comic version of the Boys may be so off-tune and unimaginative as a parody of capeshit, because it is more about peddlers of capeshit, than the characters

Garth Ennis probably hates the peddlers of capeshit more than the actual capeshit characters. He's stated to have some love for Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman, but he has zero respect for the capeshit genre as a whole, thinking that it kiddie-fied comics and held the medium back. So of course, he'd fucking hate the peddlers of capeshit, since to him, they're the cause of comics as a medium getting a reputation of being childish. Which is ironic, since after the Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns took off and became hot sellers, damn near every capeshit comic had gone rated M for Mature, discussing mature topics that kids won't be familiar with, along with having a healthy dose of gore porn that no parent would want their kid to see.

Homelander wouldn't care how many jihadis blew up vs. how many were supercharged. The jihadis themselves probably wouldn't care. But for normal people, even a small probability of blowing up would be a significant deterrent to adult applications. Too much liability for Vought. Even a single person using it illicitly and exploding would create substantial reputational risk.

The problem is, we don't see a single terrorist get fucked by V. All we know is that they get V, they become super-powered, and the Seven start hunting them down in order to gain cred with the military. In the same vein, Stan Edgar was selling Compound V to whoever wished to buy. Aside from letting Pentagon and ICE purchase doses of the blue stuff at 5 million bucks a pop, Stan intentionally placed Stormfront into the Seven just to piss people off, since angry people would want to buy Compound V, and that would raise Vought's stock price, since people would want to buy something that only Vought has. And we know that both Soldier Boy and Stormfront got their V injections as adults. That's why Stormfront is perpetually a young adult female despite her kids becoming geriatrics.

Face it, the worldbuilding in the series is loopy as hell.

I mind her because everything about the character is inexplicable. They should've given her telepathic powers or something instead of making her "the smartest person alive", it would've been easier to write and it wouldn't make the story fall apart into retarded plot contrivances.

It would've made more sense for her to be a telepath, or at least someone with some kind of empathetic, mind-reading power or sensory power, as a way for her to gauge people when talking to them. Add that in with her having a regenerative brain that works at a faster pace than other people, and you could have a good explanation as to why she's considered the ''smartest person alive''.

SOMETHING has to be happening behind the scenes because it's super suss that Kripke has gone full career suicide all of a sudden.

So is it confirmed it’s canceled? Because I know the cope will be “it was always going to have 5 seasons” for the propagandists, but what’s the real deal?

Given that they ditched the story of the comics to just follow their own plotline, I agree; they could've made somewhere between 8-10 seasons of this shit, but the news that they're getting cut off in Season 5 is really sus. Some might say that it's so they can exit in a good step, to not follow Game of Thrones with how it began to decline from Season 5 and bottomed out at Season 8.

From what i know, every person voting trump this year could cancel their amazon accounts and sell their amazon stocks en masse and it wouldn't cause Jeff to shed a single fucking tear. If anything there's more evidence that "the pendulums won't swing back" than ever before. and if anything a Trump win might help them because suddenly their show might be a bit less looney tunes. But if some jew at synagogue came up to him and went "not for nothing, but trump and his voters are the only ones not protesting our race's continued survival; maybe you should lay off" he'd behave similarly as he's doing now.

The fact that Kripke and co. had a laser-focused sight on WASP Americans becoming the bad guys in the recent seasons probably got some self-aware Jew with influence to step up and tell him to STFU. Especially since said WASP Americans actually do support Israel and the Jews more than any other group in the gentile world. Painting them as the new Nazis just makes no goddamn sense, since they fucking hate Nazis and cosplay as Old Testament Jews. It's just so weird for a Jewish showrunner to slag the WASP demographic so hard and paint them as the bad guys, when other Jewish directors like say, Michael Bay, had a good rapport with WASP Americans knowing that they're good for Israel.

I suppose the show getting canceled at Season 5 could be a direct result of Kripke repeatedly biting the hand that feeds the Tribe.

 

[Salt_Merchant]

could be a case that antony starr just doesnt want to do it anymore and they dont want it to come out because actors half arsing it leads to critiques (see jenifer lawrence in those xmen films who steadily got less and less time painted blue because she was far to famous to be in these films she signed a contract before her popularity exploded)

hes gone from a no namer who was doing cameos on the auntie donna show to the most well known actor on amazons biggest show who wasnt in lord of the rings.

hes even getting episodes that are just pure award bait,

so perhaps he wants to move on and do something else, or he could be a case where he dislikes how popular homelander is and wants to be rid of the character?

and we all know the show immediately dies if Homelander isnt in it, its the central conflict of the story, so its not like they can kill him off and run with something else, the world building hasnt been good enough to do that

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

could be a case that antony starr just doesnt want to do it anymore and they dont want it to come out because actors half arsing it leads to critiques (see jenifer lawrence in those xmen films who steadily got less and less time painted blue because she was far to famous to be in these films she signed a contract before her popularity exploded)

hes gone from a no namer who was doing cameos on the auntie donna show to the most well known actor on amazons biggest show who wasnt in lord of the rings.

hes even getting episodes that are just pure award bait,

so perhaps he wants to move on and do something else, or he could be a case where he dislikes how popular homelander is and wants to be rid of the character?

and we all know the show immediately dies if Homelander isnt in it, its the central conflict of the story, so its not like they can kill him off and run with something else, the world building hasnt been good enough to do that

Homelander's basically the Tywin Lannister of the show. When he dies, the show's going to fall apart. What are they gonna do, make Butcher the new bad guy, like what happened in the comics after Homelander died? That's highly unlikely, especially since they already deviated from the plot of the comics. Just as Game of Thrones fell apart after Tywin's death, so too would The Boys fall apart once Homelander exits the scene.

But unlike Tywin whom Charles Dance understood and enjoyed playing, Anthony Starr fucking hates being Homelander in the same vein that Alec Guinness hated being Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he probably wants to move on. Especially since his stint as Homelander has shown his talent to the wider movie/streaming world, and he might get some better roles down the line.

And yes, that episode with the lab doctors that Homelander slaughtered was basically pure awards bait. If the dude doesn't get an Emmy, fans will riot.

 

[TheHarbinger]

could be a case that antony starr just doesnt want to do it anymore. hes gone from a no namer who was doing cameos on the auntie donna show to the most well known actor on amazons biggest show who wasnt in lord of the rings.

He was the lead in tons of shows and movies. Outside of nerd circles he's probably more famous for being in Banshee. He also doesn't have to work as much for The Boys seeing as he's in only a handful of scenes each season. He's actually in less scenes than Starlight or MM. He's the most popular character but Hughie and Butcher get way more time on screen. We know that the actress who played Maeve begged to be killed off and hated the show. Probably many of the main cast hate the showrunners and writers but don't want to rock the boat.

What are they gonna do, make Butcher the new bad guy, like what happened in the comics after Homelander died? That's highly unlikely, especially since they already deviated from the plot of the comics.

Butcher will be revealed as having a V infected brain parasite that kills people against his wishes. His brain parasite will kill Starlight and likely a few other 'good' characters and fan favorites to preserve his 'good guy' status. Hughie will euthanize him or kill him or he will die of the parasite. They are setting things up so that Butcher is still a fan favorite character even if he's killing everyone. It's the new way of writing characters where no one has an agency or makes any decisions.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

I don't know why people think Starr will be a huge star once he leaves the show. He has the same problem as Jon Hamm and the GOT actors. their limited range worked great for the roles they were in but they're typecasted and any shot of leaving that type of role will just turn out bad. There's no doubt in my mind he'll be this decade's Jon hamm. Everyone thought based on how great he was in his role that he'd be a new a-list star and instead its just been sitcom guest appearances and a lot of indie dogshit supporting roles.

Probably many of the main cast hate the showrunners and writers but don't want to rock the boat.

but why? from everything you said its an easy paycheck and they can do other shit. its not like Ruffalo whines about being the hulk.

 

[TheHarbinger]

but why? from everything you said its an easy paycheck and they can do other shit. its not like Ruffalo whines about being the hulk.

Amazon is paying them nothing even close to what the Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon cast makes. The actors for Homelander and Butcher did their cameos in Gen V for scale pay meaning they basically worked for free. Homelander's actor didn't even voice him in Mortal Kombat because the pay was too low. It's clearly not a good enough show for them to spend months away from their homes up in Canada surrounded by weirdos like Kripke or Rogen (who are likely getting paid ten times as much as any of the actors).

Yeah it's easy work but it's also probably miserable. And with the actresses who play Starfield and Kimiko getting tons of surgery it doesn't really seem like a healthy place to be either. Also all actors whine about their roles because they are faggots playing 'dress up' as adults. They all complain no matter what.

 

[BrodyDaMan]

Sorry for going off-topic but do you guys know what happened to Kripke after the early 2000s? I watched the first five seasons of Supernatural recently and liked them, and also checked out the BTS videos. Kripke seemed like a really cool guy there, an apolitical guy interested in horror and gore, with a genuine respect for christianity and related esoterica, classic americana, and american pop culture. This is the kind of guy who would've been perfect for adapting The Boys or any other kind of modern fantasy series. What happened to him after Supernatural?

 

[Hitman One]

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[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Ngl it's sorta funny how the smarty didn't realize that for the cutting of the frontal lobe, you need to do the procedure in both eyes and not just one.

I wonder if the sudden and abrupt announcement that season five will be the last season had anything to do with maybe Kripke and Rogen being punished by Amazon for quadrupling down on Homelander=evil and them INSISTING that the show if not this season end with Homelander doing the Jan 6 riot.

It's not a sudden announcement. They have long been saying this for a while. Since before season 3 if I remember correctly.

 

[Still Exceptional]

You know, would be funny if they still tried to do the Homelander clone thing. And because they've decided to already make him crazy they don't even need the clone to be Black Noir anymore. They could just say that Vought cooked up a clone at some point just in case Homelander went nuts, keeping him in secret storage and only Stan Edgar knows about him. Then Stan will tell the Boys about it.so they can have him fight Homelander.

It'll be a different actor, younger so they can explain that after torturing Homelander to figure out the extent of what he can endure they created another clone who wasn't tortured into insanity. They'll make him Homelander's polar opposite, having indoctrinated him into being a woke progressive atheist who supports BLM, calls out Supe Privilege™, and is an LGBTQ+KonamiCode ally. They did all this to ensure that he would hate Homelander for being all the wrong things and have a lot of incentive to kill him.

Once he takes out Homelander they'll have him "raise Ryan right" to turn the kid into a little progressive faggot.

 

[Melight]

Maybe Amazon wants to do a Homelander spin-off where he's explicitly written as a good guy? Would explain the whole "killing the people who tortured him as a kid" storyline this season, as far as being forced on Kripke to humanize Homelander and why Kripke's publicly throwing a fit screeching "don't sympathize with Homelander!" kick about said episode. As if he's angry he had to make it and that it's making people like Homelander even more.

Or maybe Homelander gets killed this season due to Starr seeing the writing on the wall and wanting out before being a part of explicit anti-Trump propoganda kills his career DOA. Starr's been a bit silent this season on social media and maybe the fucker had a come to Jesus moment making him realize how he won't have a career after the show if they actually go as far as reenact the fictional version of Jan 6 that only exists in the minds of lunatic lefties like Rogan and Kripke.

I really doubt Starr wants to do more of the boys than he absolutely needs too. Hes gone on record saying that its kinda pissing him off that people just call him homelander and think hes a psychopath whenever they meet him on the streets.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Sorry for going off-topic but do you guys know what happened to Kripke after the early 2000s? I watched the first five seasons of Supernatural recently and liked them, and also checked out the BTS videos. Kripke seemed like a really cool guy there, an apolitical guy interested in horror and gore, with a genuine respect for christianity and related esoterica, classic americana, and american pop culture. This is the kind of guy who would've been perfect for adapting The Boys or any other kind of modern fantasy series. What happened to him after Supernatural?

Supernatural had a huge fucking woke fanbase of legit psychopaths who wanted the show to do gay incest storylines and have the main Angel character be in a gay relationship with one of the brothers even before he left the show.

Also, the fucker is working alongside Seth Rogen, Woke Nazi shitstain liberal scum who's made it clear over and over again that if you aren't Jewish, you are subhuman and who thinks conservatives, trump supporters, and anyone not left of Mao should be killed on sight if they so much as raise their voice to the Hollywood elite and their desire for a Thousand Year SJW Reich. Being around Seth and watching him be a huge fucking monster and get constantly rewarded for being a monster probably made Kripke go full villain, especially if Rogen was whispering sweet nothings in his ear that the more toxic he behaves towards the goyim and more he calls for the death of people who are conservative or voted for Trump, the more likely he'll get more and more high profile work in Hollywood.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Every bit of dialogue in this is

"We have to go to Johnny Klepstein's island and prevent the evil doctor Hans Ravik from creating an army of superpowered child soldiers that are going to attack the white house on January 6th!"

Do people really think this shit is clever?

I've seen better political commentary in fucking Konosuba and episodes of Seinfeld.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Every bit of dialogue in this is

"We have to go to Johnny Klepstein's island and prevent the evil doctor Hans Ravik from creating an army of superpowered child soldiers that are going to attack the white house on January 6th!"

Do people really think this shit is clever?

I've seen better political commentary in fucking Konosuba and episodes of Seinfeld.

Writers like Kripke really don't understand how to market a message.

You need something to be attractive first before you use it as an agitprop. And it needs to remain attractive if you want the messaging to work.

He'd have a better chance of spreading a leftist message if the message came along with genuinely good story and action, as well as a healthy serving of aesthetic appeal. Instead of shoving disgusting sex and gore scenes which do nothing but shock or piss off the audience.

 

[Sniperwoof]

Writers like Kripke really don't understand how to market a message.

You need something to be attractive first before you use it as an agitprop. And it needs to remain attractive if you want the messaging to work.

He'd have a better chance of spreading a leftist message if the message came along with genuinely good story and action, as well as a healthy serving of aesthetic appeal. Instead of shoving disgusting sex and gore scenes which do nothing but shock or piss off the audience.

I can see why reddit absolutely adores this show. Most media at least makes an attempt to disguise the fact that it's propaganda but there's not even an attempt to obscure here, it's just a shot of pure uncut undiluted propaganda directly to the bloodstream.

 

[FinnSven]

I can see why reddit absolutely adores this show. Most media at least makes an attempt to disguise the fact that it's propaganda but there's not even an attempt to obscure here, it's just a shot of pure uncut undiluted propaganda directly to the bloodstream.

In ten years it will be probably the best contemporary fiction depiction of our times.

Obviously not literal or the “best” as in quality.

Best as in a clumsy but accurate account of the propaganda and opinions through social media.