The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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I watched the first three eps of the new season and just skipped past every Frenchie scene and I don’t feel like I’ve missed anything important to the story. I’m sure there’s totally stuff that’s important to the narrative in there and it’s not just completely superfluous bullshit meant to check boxes though.
You could have skipped the last three seasons and still not missed anything important.
 
Yeah I don't know why so many people think of South Park as some sort of insightful political commentary. The Scientology episode even ended with Stan outright saying that Scientology is a scam.
I think of South Park as some sort of insightful political commentary. It doesn't need to be subtle. The Scientology episode was spot-on and went after a ripe target that nobody else would touch. Most importantly, it was actually funny, not something the audience is obligated to clap along with to prove they aren't closet Scientology-supporters. Their Trump-Garrison stuff seems pretty awful, but still more clever than Trumplander.

The Boys is exactly the kind of shit a decent satire would be mocking mercilessly. Sister Sage, lmao. You just know they passed over any black woman who would be remotely convincing in the role and deliberately got somebody who comes across like a DMV receptionist just to dare anybody to say anything.
 
This season has been a letdown, which is a shame because I was looking forward to seeing how Godolkin tied into the new season and more Homelander development.

The handling of Homelander has been a huge letdown.
How did they go from Stormfront manipulating him to that underwhelming and annoying black woman?
I guess they already established that he’s not racist (his frustration with Stormfront’s master race and white genocide etc), but they more so established that he doesn’t care about non Supes at all, and Sage is basically human except for her smartest PERSON (her correcting everyone on smartest woman is also grating) brain.
She doesn’t even have super strength like Firecracker.
And she fucked Deep getting sloppy seconds of an octopus. That’s not smartest person in the world behavior, vile.

Firecracker has been a nice addition though, but if they really wanted to sell her being not sympathetic, they should have taken out the part where Starlight was a fucking snake to her and contributed to her dropping out of Supe pageants.
That’s a very good reason to carry a hate torch against Starlight.

The Frenchie stuff might be one of the worst additions, disappointed if it’s a gay love triangle the rest of the season.
Frenchie is enjoyable when he’s doing all the drugs and being weird and actually contributing with his set of skills (most recent example would be him creating the device in the lab to take out Homelander under pressure), have no interest in seeing him be a faggot as part of his inner turmoil.

Sure hope it gets better, but at this point don’t have much faith.
 
This season has been a letdown, which is a shame because I was looking forward to seeing how Godolkin tied into the new season and more Homelander development.

The handling of Homelander has been a huge letdown.
How did they go from Stormfront manipulating him to that underwhelming and annoying black woman?
I guess they already established that he’s not racist (his frustration with Stormfront’s master race and white genocide etc), but they more so established that he doesn’t care about non Supes at all, and Sage is basically human except for her smartest PERSON (her correcting everyone on smartest woman is also grating) brain.
She doesn’t even have super strength like Firecracker.
And she fucked Deep getting sloppy seconds of an octopus. That’s not smartest person in the world behavior, vile.

Firecracker has been a nice addition though, but if they really wanted to sell her being not sympathetic, they should have taken out the part where Starlight was a fucking snake to her and contributed to her dropping out of Supe pageants.
That’s a very good reason to carry a hate torch against Starlight.

The Frenchie stuff might be one of the worst additions, disappointed if it’s a gay love triangle the rest of the season.
Frenchie is enjoyable when he’s doing all the drugs and being weird and actually contributing with his set of skills (most recent example would be him creating the device in the lab to take out Homelander under pressure), have no interest in seeing him be a faggot as part of his inner turmoil.

Sure hope it gets better, but at this point don’t have much faith.
I was thrown for a loop for a second at the end of the esp but I think Sage also has some regen abilities? It looked like Sage gave herself a lobotomy to dumb herself down and relax for a bit (and put her at the same level as The Deep). Which would but the first smart/interesting thing the show writers have done with the character.
 
I was thrown for a loop for a second at the end of the esp but I think Sage also has some regen abilities? It looked like Sage gave herself a lobotomy to dumb herself down and relax for a bit (and put her at the same level as The Deep). Which would but the first smart/interesting thing the show writers have done with the character.
It's not smart. It's idiotic. She removes her powers when superheroes in the Seven are on constant standby to perform something in public. If Homelander calls on her for analysis and finds her lobotomized watching cartoons she'll get lasers through her head. It's just proof that she has plot armor and the writing makes zero sense. Imagine someone finds her all braindead and takes a video and posts it online. Doesn't she realize her room is likely bugged as well and Homelander is listening? The writing only works because her drilling holes into her brain has zero consequences until the plot armor finally wears off and they can kill her character.

She basically removes her own superpowers so she can enjoy watching reality television shows. This is the "smartest person alive".
 
It's not smart. It's idiotic. She removes her powers when superheroes in the Seven are on constant standby to perform something in public. If Homelander calls on her for analysis and finds her lobotomized watching cartoons she'll get lasers through her head. It's just proof that she has plot armor and the writing makes zero sense. Imagine someone finds her all braindead and takes a video and posts it online. Doesn't she realize her room is likely bugged as well and Homelander is listening? The writing only works because her drilling holes into her brain has zero consequences until the plot armor finally wears off and they can kill her character.

She basically removes her own superpowers so she can enjoy watching reality television shows. This is the "smartest person alive".
That's the point: its a character flaw. Even the "smartest person in the world" wants to cool down, just relax, stop analyzing, and enjoy fun, dumb shit without over thinking everything. And now I bet we are going to get some scenes where "dumb" sage has to act smart until the front lobe grows back.
 
It's not smart. It's idiotic. She removes her powers when superheroes in the Seven are on constant standby to perform something in public. If Homelander calls on her for analysis and finds her lobotomized watching cartoons she'll get lasers through her head. It's just proof that she has plot armor and the writing makes zero sense. Imagine someone finds her all braindead and takes a video and posts it online. Doesn't she realize her room is likely bugged as well and Homelander is listening? The writing only works because her drilling holes into her brain has zero consequences until the plot armor finally wears off and they can kill her character.

She basically removes her own superpowers so she can enjoy watching reality television shows. This is the "smartest person alive".
It's actually kind of stupid. You'd think Sage, the smartest person alive, would entertain themselves differently. Like say, playing RTS games online against other major-league gamers. Or something like reading books or recreational geometry. Making some super-hard math problem only to time herself on how fast she can solve it. Or maybe doing what Beast from the X-Men does and partaking in experiments. Maybe Homelander would even have her work in experiments to create the next generation superhuman, just as Homelander himself was created by Vogelbaum as an improvement over Soldier Boy.

Or maybe Sage would be spending time with Ryan, slowly eroding his worldviews and indoctrinating him into thinking in a way that Homelander would approve of. The fact that he didn't assign Sage to Ryan goes to show a massive tactical error on Homelander's part; he knows that Ryan's too soft and he has some attraction to Butcher, so what he should've done is tolerate it for now, say that he also cares about Butcher because Butcher is the one person who can understand him, but then have Sage slowly erode Ryan's trust in Butcher and see things the way Homelander does.

The degeneracy factor is always too strong. It's a novelty for shock value, but it eventually wears out its welcome. You'd think Sage would be the Vought Supe equivalent of the Decepticon Shockwave from Transformers, or Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars, a being who relies on logic and smarts in order to win the day. Instead, what you have is the average twat who watches TMZ, who occasionally breaks from that to say something smart that she gleamed from a book.
 
I’ll say it again, the comics are much better than the show
First season was promising. Everything after has shown that Ennis was decades ahead of his time and that no one at Amazon had any long term vision of what this show was supposed to be. Now it's bloated into multiple spinoff series and is a complete mess. It's become just as bad as the stuff it's supposed to be mocking and parodying.

This will happen another dozen times this season with different characters as well.

LOL. Sure...

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I think the most frustrating part about all of this is the amount of wasted talent and creativity. Eric Jewpkike has so many talented actors and artists but he decides to waste them because "fuck le heckin chuds".

However, the people claiming that the comics were always better either never read them or are huffing copium.
 
It's actually kind of stupid. You'd think Sage, the smartest person alive, would entertain themselves differently. Like say, playing RTS games online against other major-league gamers. Or something like reading books or recreational geometry. Making some super-hard math problem only to time herself on how fast she can solve it. Or maybe doing what Beast from the X-Men does and partaking in experiments. Maybe Homelander would even have her work in experiments to create the next generation superhuman, just as Homelander himself was created by Vogelbaum as an improvement over Soldier Boy.

Or maybe Sage would be spending time with Ryan, slowly eroding his worldviews and indoctrinating him into thinking in a way that Homelander would approve of. The fact that he didn't assign Sage to Ryan goes to show a massive tactical error on Homelander's part; he knows that Ryan's too soft and he has some attraction to Butcher, so what he should've done is tolerate it for now, say that he also cares about Butcher because Butcher is the one person who can understand him, but then have Sage slowly erode Ryan's trust in Butcher and see things the way Homelander does.

the entire point is that she has to make herself retarded to relax, to the point shed watch trash movies eat outback steakhouse and fuck the deep.

its supposed to be played off as a joke,

I assume since part of the point of a lot of supes is they start off with good intentions planning on using their talents to save people and the world and become corrupted that she probably did things like this when she started out but came to realise being smarter than everyone else sucks, that its impossible to have real human interactions and relationships, and how do you relax when your overanalysing shit 24/7

and decided to just take the easier way out and make herself retarded to wind down,
 
the entire point is that she has to make herself retarded to relax, to the point shed watch trash movies eat outback steakhouse and fuck the deep.

its supposed to be played off as a joke,
She's just another fucking degenerate. Here I thought she could bring some class to the Seven and get Homelander to clean up his act to make himself more palatable to the masses as their new Caesar.

By the way, the show misunderstands Caesar. Caesar actually tried to save the Roman Republic. It was his heirs, Mark Anthony and Augustus Octavian, who wanted to break the Republic in two and rule as absolute dictators.

I assume since part of the point of a lot of supes is they start off with good intentions planning on using their talents to save people and the world and become corrupted that she probably did things like this when she started out but came to realise being smarter than everyone else sucks, that its impossible to have real human interactions and relationships, and how do you relax when your overanalysing shit 24/7

and decided to just take the easier way out and make herself retarded to wind down,
Like I said, I'd expect someone that smart to wind down by relaxing in a smart way, like experimenting on something, trying to solve complex problems, or just reading books. I mean, fuck, her apartment was full of books.
 
Sorry for not reading the whole thread and just letting out frustration but I really hate the series "the boys", in season 1 it is halfway acceptable even having many freedoms but what they are doing now is to say enough, it is not a series based on the comics is pure nonsense material in the style of Paul W.S Anderson's Resident Evil but much worse. I see a lot of people complaining that the comic is very "edgy nonsense" but the series is the same its humor is mainly "penis sex vagina shit or look at pop culture references".
If the comic had its "woke with geis" moments but it was something so secondary that it didn't matter, the series really thinks it's intelligent for doing whatever it does.
and finally I'm angry about what they did to Frenchi, damn that man in the comic was perfect and happy, not a polyamorous bisexual asshole, they ruined the best couple that is Frenchi/thewoman
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LOL. Sure...
yes i sure, i don't understand your point
 
I was thinking of giving this show a try. Those of you who have watched it all, do you still recommend it? Has it jumped the shark? Can you tell me when it starts to suck?
 
like literally every supe except the appointed good guy ones?

yes
Exactly. And it gets really fucking old. Both in the comics and in the show. Every fucking superhero in their crosshairs is some kind of pervert or degenerate. The Boys can't just fight a Supe who's really powerful and really evil, they have to be a degenerate one way or another. God forbid an evil super-being actually rise above that shit and look down upon the mortals for being degenerate filth. That would mean that the villain would have class compared to our ''heroes''.

I remember a time when evil super-beings actually had standards. When they weren't just used for shock value peddled by degenerates. When they were, as Homelander put it, clean, pure, like marble. When their evil came from the fact that they had immense power and are willing to kill anyone in their way.

But I suppose it is true to the spirit of the comic, so I can't fault Kripke for that. He adapted a comic with tons of degeneracy into a show that has tons of degeneracy. I suppose I can't really fault him for staying true to the material he's adapting.
 
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Wanna remind everyone that Eric Kripke is pro-Israel and the actor for Frenchie was an IDF squad leader. Weirdly, none of the people who’d usually be mad about this really give a shit, I guess screaming about media literacy on Twitter is more important.

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Wanna remind everyone that Eric Kripke is pro-Israel and the actor for Frenchie was an IDF squad leader. Weirdly, none of the people who’d usually be mad about this really give a shit, I guess screaming about media literacy on Twitter is more important.

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Well, then his raging hateboner for White Christian America is even more hypocritical, considering that white conservative Christians are basically one of the few groups who still want to support Israel. That very same Christian demographic he mocked with that Vought Christmas Ice Skating play is the same group that's keeping Israel afloat. Take them away, and who in America or the world wants to support Israel? Outside of a few tiny groups, damn near nobody, that's who.

It's actually kind of funny, because the people who swallow the show wholesale and who actually follow the desired politics of the show see Zionists as the new Nazis. Oh, if only Kripke knew.....
 
I was thinking of giving this show a try. Those of you who have watched it all, do you still recommend it? Has it jumped the shark? Can you tell me when it starts to suck?
The first season is good. Everything after that is a tremendous decline into unwatchable territory. The constant political references. The endless perverted and pornographic scenes. Zero plot development. Awfully written characters. Predictable cliche plots and stories. Spinoff series.

It's like Game of Thrones. Where it started out well then plummeted into being worthless and ended with the simultaneous destruction and franchising of the series. So now you get the spinoffs and reboots and merchandise and the actual thing that started it all, the main show, is mediocre at best.

I would recommend binging the first two seasons. If you can take the whiplash level change in tone and writing between those two seasons you might be able to stick out the entire franchise and spinoffs at least once through. I don't think I'll ever rewatch this show once it concludes (or if it ever concludes if they do endless spinoffs).
 
Honestly its truly remarkable how Homelander is by far the most popular character. It's like nobody cares that much about the supposed heroes of the story.

Homelander is the one getting videogame cameos and fan animations (Granted Black Noir and Starlight got one in COD I suppose). Tough we were supposed to be cheering for Butcher, the female etc. Don't get me wrong it's not like they are unknowns, but Homelander clearly stole the show and became part of popular culture. The heroes are kinda forgetable outside the show.

Even edgelord Butcher who should be very popular, and the main character, is hardly ever mentioned when people talk about this show. He is likely behind both Starlight and Hugie in popularity. And I don't even blame Karl Urban as he does a fantastic job playing him.
 
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