The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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CaptainAutism69 said:
Ahhh fuck, it's the Karl Urban curse all over again (Riddick, Almost Human, Star Trek, Dredd...), everything he is in turns to shit.
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I like Urban a lot, and he is often the best part of the things that turn to shit.

Dredd and Almost Human were genuinely great, plus he has a lifetime supply of goodwill from me because he was Eomer in Lord Of The Rings.
 
I just finished Gen V today, jesus what a disappointment that was. I wish they have the balls to kill all the characters like in the comic so we don't have to see them again. But they didn't ofc, have to milk this franchise to death somehow. Just save your time skip and Gen V. Go jump directly to season 4. They'll definitely do a recap about all the shenanigans that were happening in this series anyway at the beginning of Season 4.

Speaking of, the teaser for Season 4 came out yesterday
 
My take is we're gonna have 2-3 of these boring ass seasons, then when people get bored, 1 season will shoddily wrap everything together.
 
Late to the Gen V party. Why even mention Pewdiepie in the first place? There must be a better analouge to Nazis than a swedish guy that has a family? Why not Matt Walsh/Crowder, they are more topical. Are they stuck in 2016-17?
Also The Boys: Mexico might be coming. There goes your parody/deconstruction of MCU I guess.
 
I remember looking at the subreddit for the show in lead up to the release of the last two seasons, and I did the same thing now. They always say the same thing:
Season 2: "Homelander's definitely gonna lose it this time"
Season 3: "Homelander's definitely gonna lose it this time"
Season 4: "Homelander's definitely gonna lose it this time"
The cat and mouse game has become really tiresome.

This show has absolutely become what it's ostensibly parodying, an endless collection of churned out, lazily written content with pointless spinoffs
 
BrunoMattei said:
I'm tempted just to skip this season. I didn't hate seasons 2 and 3 but the magic just isn't there and it's become too preachy and cliché.
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The show will be like Game of Thrones. Massive narrative peak early on that buys it a decade of goodwill. Then eventually a pathetic ending with a whimper and horrible writing and even the actors delivering their worst takes by being jaded at the direction of the story. But there will be enough spinoffs and video games and toys and merchandise to keep the general 'Boys' brand alive for another few decades.

To the point where in a few years people will basically forget about Homelander or Butcher and the original show and characters will fade from memory. Like how no one cares about Bran Stark or Daenarys or Eddward or Stannis anymore. They just move onto the next spinoff or prequel series. And even the meaning of 'The Boys' will not matter. As the first Boys spinoff GenV was not about any of the CIA/Boys team but about the superheroes. And the next spinoff will be even further removed from the original story.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I'm tempted just to skip this season. I didn't hate seasons 2 and 3 but the magic just isn't there and it's become too preachy and cliché.
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That’s the truth of it really. It was always cliche and overdone. And really the only thing really making people watch was the novelty of Season 1 because most people had not seen the cliche before, and it had certainly not been done in live action. But after that? It’s dull and unispired when you get right down to it. Mostly because the source material was shaky to start with.

Invincable will likely follow the same trend for the same reasons
 
6MillionCoofs said:
That’s the truth of it really. It was always cliche and overdone. And really the only thing really making people watch was the novelty of Season 1 because most people had not seen the cliche before, and it had certainly not been done in live action. But after that? It’s dull and unispired when you get right down to it. Mostly because the source material was shaky to start with.

Invincable will likely follow the same trend for the same reasons
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I think there was an assumption that parodies of superhero media were immune to superhero fatigue, but I think that's increasingly proving not to be the case. "What if superheroes but bad" has become a cliché in and of itself
 
Ace-8-8-8-Ace said:
I think there was an assumption that parodies of superhero media were immune to superhero fatigue, but I think that's increasingly proving not to be the case. "What if superheroes but bad" has become a cliché in and of itself
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Thing is it was cliche even when the source material came out. Problem is source material is not the best and you need that to carry these kind of shows after nocelty fades.

If anything, what the gente needs are hopefully optimistic colourful stories.

We’ve been in a cynical edgy phase for almost 20 years on film and tv. Wsy longer if you include the comics
 
They built up homelander as this dangerous, unpredictable, sexually perverse man with superpowers. The fact that the show considers the action taking a dangerous drug to give yourself superpowers in order kill an dangerous man with superpowers "toxic" really shows the weakness of the writers and the liberal ideology.

If the boys were to somehow kill every vought scientist and exec, and use their powers to kill homelander, something brave like that would be considered bad.

Something tells me that homelander won't be defeated this season, and if he were to ever get defeated later in the show, it would be through some huge public embarrassment, or somehow a bunch of his followers end up dying through ridiculous means and through some magic contrived bullshit homelander is defeated based on him losing all his twitter followers.
 
My main problem with the show is that, I hear this “they make fun of BOTH sides” bullshit all the time, when it couldn’t be further from the truth.

When they have Vought cynically appropriating BLM or “Girls get it done” or LGTV+ issues for profit, they’re not mocking the actual movements or even pointing out their absurdity. They’re mocking corporate America. Contrast that with their half-assed “parody” of white conservative America as dangerous, ignorant, gun-toting extremists. It’s not the same thing.

The only people who are the subject of this shows ire are conservatives and corporations. It’s not enough to ruin the show for me (my complete disinterest in The Boys as a team does that enough on its own) but it’s pretty retarded.
 
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6MillionCoofs said:
That’s the truth of it really. It was always cliche and overdone. And really the only thing really making people watch was the novelty of Season 1 because most people had not seen the cliche before, and it had certainly not been done in live action. But after that? It’s dull and unispired when you get right down to it. Mostly because the source material was shaky to start with.

Invincable will likely follow the same trend for the same reasons
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S1 exceeded in execution and how it presented the world.

The formulaic approach also appealed to me. I pictured each season would be the same formula; pick a target, figure out their weakness, heist to kill them, with the final target being Homelander.
 
Gender: Xenomorph said:
S1 exceeded in execution and how it presented the world.

The formulaic approach also appealed to me. I pictured each season would be the same formula; pick a target, figure out their weakness, heist to kill them, with the final target being Homelander.
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And they should have gone with that probably. It’s almost classic comic book structure.

Heck, things like the seven even moreorless give you a numbering order in terms of importance for it’s worst members. Whilst giving you at least that many seasons.

Sometimes all a good story needs is executing it’s tropes and cliches well.
 
6MillionCoofs said:
And they should have gone with that probably. It’s almost classic comic book structure.

Heck, things like the seven even moreorless give you a numbering order in terms of importance for it’s worst members. Whilst giving you at least that many seasons.

Sometimes all a good story needs is executing it’s tropes and cliches well.
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~~Aquaman~~ I mean, the Deep would have been really boring/easy to kill, so there would have been plenty of room to build exposition there.

Black Noir is just Homelander 2.0 so there, two for one

But the formulaic approach could have worked. The whole main plot they're working on right now could have worked as a sideplot, they could have killed the nigger flash and lesbian wonder woman; nobody cares about them.
 
I think most tv shows should keep things to only four seasons, especially for a plot line like The Boys. They’ll eventually have to actually succeed at killing Homelander, otherwise people will get tired of the buildup and letdown. I would like to see real character development of more than just people like Hughie. An interesting direction could be to make something trigger Homelander feeling real remorse, and trying to be better, when no one actually likes him because of past actions. Though, I think that type of writing is too advanced for what the writers are capable of.

I’ve actually enjoyed the show quite a bit thus far, but one thing that helps is just the phrase “in that universe.” They obviously pull from reality, but despite being marketed as more “realistic,” it’s definitely not. For one, way too many of the characters just have plot armor and don’t succumb to injuries as quickly as they should (pretty much everyone part of The Boys, save for Kimiko that has self healing). Another unrealistic aspect is how no one in universe actually has any superhero fatigue save for people that actually suffered from them. In the opening shots of season 1, you see just how over saturated superheroes are in all media. Vought is also like Disney, but even more powerful. I’m actually surprised it took Stormfront to start making criticism of Vought mainstream “in that universe.” In a world closer to the reality they want to depict, you’d already see grassroots movements of that, as people from all political sides typically have a bone to pick with one or more megacorps.

I don’t know how they’re going to stretch it out to more seasons when Butcher has just months to live after abusing V. I’m betting they’ll pull some Deus ex Machina where they figure out some antidote to V’s side effects just to keep Butcher around longer. If the writers have the guts, they should actually just kill Butcher off, and force Hughie, MM, Frenchie, Annie, and Kimiko to fight Homelander themselves. It would raise the stakes and possibly force a more creative way to defeat Homelander.

My biggest frustration is that characters are way too static, on all sides. We need some real character changes to make it new and exciting.
 
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