The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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KonradCruise said:
Is there any actual reason to watch this beyond midway through season 2?
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Same reason people watched Game of Thrones beyond season six. They just wanted to see the ending of the overall story. Even when all of the characters are butchered, the lore is all over the place, the scale is scattershot, the dialog is amateurish at best, and the show is barely recognizable in terms of quality. People just wanted to see who won the 'game of thrones' and who survived the 'end of the world'. Even a bad ending is still an ending and a conclusion that one can at least digest and understand.

People basically want to see what happens to Vought and Compound V. And what happens to the main cast. But the days of wondering if this show will be an all time great or some legendary adaptation are over. After the season three finale this show is basically in the 'Mass Effect 3' or 'Game of Thrones' territory in terms of wasted potential. And likely once it airs its finale will be in the wasteland of popular shows in terms of pop culture discussion.
 
ZMOT said:
don't forget the authority in '99.
also had a gay batman/superman relationship, one dude addicted to heroin, the leader dying at the end of the first run (the spirit of the 20st century which ended on new year's eve), the team getting replaced and brainwashed (including the females made wives) and other fun shenanigans. the edge didn't stop there:


TLDR: the proto-EU avengers were even bigger cunts than the seven (swift is the spirit of the 21st century, given the date you can probably guess how old she was in context...)
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Also Brat-Pack did exactly the same thing but with sidekicks. I really hope they forget it exists, although King Rad would make for a very fun character to see in TV.
 
One group that is still loving this show is the TV Tropes community. Especially because of how they view people who now dislike the direction it is taking.
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They especially love how Homelander is made an analogue of Trump (or at least their view of him)
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I just... I hate it because it's so easy, you know. Oh, Homelander is Trump, guys, el oh el.

Like, Homelander was an interesting villain because of his insecurities - despite being the world's strongest superhero, he's a very weak person. I mean, fuck, he spent almost the entirety of season one waiting for Madelyn to pat him on the head and call him a good boy.

But, no, we'll just chuck all that shit straight in the fucking bin, with all the other potentially interesting, fun, thoughtful ideas. Homelander is Trump now.

It's lazy writing, it already feels dated as fuck and both the character and the actor deserve better.
 
Homelander is a bisexual, sexually degenerate, deeply insecure manchild, with mommy issues and repressed rage.

None of those character traits sound like Trump at all. It sounds like more of a caricature of a reddit user or maybe someone who voted for Bernie Sanders.

Wtf is TvTropes even talking about?
 
Homelander is good for the same reason most "villains" are good; its so enjoyable to play a asshole. Kano from the recent Mortal Kombat movie is a good example, he was the only bright spot in that garbage.

Besides being well acted, Homelander is further likeable because he comes off as the only logically consistent character in the show. Hes consistent in his motives and goals. Unlike Starlight for example who tries to come off as good and noble while she kills an innocent man as she carjacks him then shows zero remorse.
MirrorNoir said:
In the comics, Soldier Boy is a legacy hero and the version active in present day is a hyper naive closet case faggot who idolizes Homelander and every Herogasm, Homelander manipulates Soldier Boy into letting him fuck him in the ass/suck Homelander's cock, as an "test" to see if he's worthy enough to get promoted to join the Seven. And Homelander does this just because he can, as far as sociopathically taking advantage of Soldier Boy's naive nature.
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God damn that sounds incredibly gay. Dude sounds The Boys was really just him being an edgy faggot before it was popular to be an edgy faggot.
 
Sniperwoof said:
Homelander is a bisexual, sexually degenerate, deeply insecure manchild, with mommy issues and repressed rage.

None of those character traits sound like Trump at all. It sounds like more of a caricature of a reddit user or maybe someone who voted for Bernie Sanders.

Wtf is TvTropes even talking about?
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The show runners explicitly state that Homelander=Trump and more to the point, his faggotry was cut from the TV version and his insecurity/mommy issues/anger issues amplified along with the show going out of their way to explicitly evoke Trump/far right parallels up to and including him fucking a literal Nazi, who's ideas he sands the edges off of and recycles as his own (per the accusation that is Trump borrows from alt right/nazi types ideas and slogans and memes, granted toned down so he can claim ignorance when called out on it).
 
Sniperwoof said:
Homelander is a bisexual, sexually degenerate, deeply insecure manchild, with mommy issues and repressed rage.

None of those character traits sound like Trump at all. It sounds like more of a caricature of a reddit user or maybe someone who voted for Bernie Sanders.

Wtf is TvTropes even talking about?
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MirrorNoir said:
The show runners explicitly state that Homelander=Trump and more to the point, his faggotry was cut from the TV version and his insecurity/mommy issues/anger issues amplified along with the show going out of their way to explicitly evoke Trump/far right parallels up to and including him fucking a literal Nazi, who's ideas he sands the edges off of and recycles as his own (per the accusation that is Trump borrows from alt right/nazi types ideas and slogans and memes, granted toned down so he can claim ignorance when called out on it).
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Both of these are correct. It's the rabid TDS afflicted drooling lefty fantasy of what Trump is . That it bears no relationship to reality is neither here nor there to them. These are the dumb fucks who think a dude in a dress is a woman.
 
Miriam Margoyles said:
I just... I hate it because it's so easy, you know. Oh, Homelander is Trump, guys, el oh el.

Like, Homelander was an interesting villain because of his insecurities - despite being the world's strongest superhero, he's a very weak person. I mean, fuck, he spent almost the entirety of season one waiting for Madelyn to pat him on the head and call him a good boy.

But, no, we'll just chuck all that shit straight in the fucking bin, with all the other potentially interesting, fun, thoughtful ideas. Homelander is Trump now.

It's lazy writing, it already feels dated as fuck and both the character and the actor deserve better.
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What I don't get is that if he's so obviously Trump and Max Lord in Wonder Woman 1984 was Trump, and both wanted to be good fathers...exactly what do these writers think about Donald Trump?

Of course this show went of the rails for me when they introduced a very obvious literal Nazi, and then satisfied their weird fetish by curbstomping her at the end of the season.

I find it funny that one character utters at that: "Girls get it done". Except they fucking didn't.

Who ultimately took down Stormfront? A small boy. Maybe he comes out as trans next season?
 
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Figures the guy with a six pack and adoration of millions is a Trump analogue.
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And the funny thing is? He's far more compelling and sympathetic compared to the so-called "heroes". The whole arc with Starlight and Hughie is all about how selfish men are for wanting to protect their women-you know, something which has been in their social programming for millennia? The so-called "good guys" are so incompetent that they gave Homelander an even bigger advantage than he had when the season started. And yet they pat themselves on the back as if they accomplished something big. Then we have that little outburst when a Starlight fan calls Ryan a fascist and throws a can at him, and Homelander strikes back to protect his son.


Are we supposed to be that shocked when a psychotic man does something in defense of his kid? Are we supposed to sympathize with the Starlight supporter who threw a soda can at a kid, just because his dad was on the wrong side of the political aisle? It's like, people like Eric Kripke can't write well enough to make us sympathize with the people they want us to sympathize with. They could've easily made the scene work by having the Starlight fan throw the can AT HOMELANDER instead of at his son, that way, at least he looks like a martyr going out with a bang by attacking the residential big gad.

But instead, the Starlight fan comes across as a fucking idiot for attacking an innocent kid in a crowd. Even if Homelander wasn't there, the crowd would've stomped his guts out, because attacking innocent kids is wrong. But no, we're supposed to side with the Starlight supporter who was gunning for a Darwin Award, because "hurr durr Fascism". Even though most people today can't even figure out what fascism is. (FYI, it's a third way compromise between nationalist capitalist democracy and totalitarian communism, taking the latter's authoritarian regime and plastering aspects of the former over it.)

Is it any surprise that some people side with Homelander over the incompetent buffoons that the show trots around as the heroes? Because in a world that pretty much laughs at the concept of men being men, a man killing another man in defense of his kid is actually understandable? As opposed to a man who learns how to be a simp and how to take the backseat? Kind of like how most Watchmen fans don't give a damn about Alan Moore's parody of how superheroes can be fascist, they just want to see Rorschach break a guy for withholding information and telling him to piss off. Instead of seeing that as bad, they saw that as cool, especially since Rorschach stood for objective moral values, and the alternative is believing in lies and accepting a world that spits at the very concept of decency.
 
I really like the formula of the first season:
  1. Find hero
  2. Unravel their power
  3. Find their weakness
  4. Exploit their weakness
  5. Kill them
It would have been really awesome if the show stuck to that formula.
 
REally its too bad no studio would make a show version of the boys true to the ennis comic. Say what you want about ennis (we have a board for that) and how he's too "edglordy" or hates heroes for no reason beyond, "he didn't have any growing up being a mick bastard who didn't get comics imported to Ireland." His series from the 2000's was a bit too overly harsh and deconstructive of the genre....but if you took that same honest to god salt for superheros and applied to the over saturated markert we have today?


It'd be perfect, move the story of the boys to current year where every bugman walks down 5th ave in his marvel shirt and star wars hat to buy the latest Homelander funko pop or ticket to whatever MCU movie is gonna siphon money out of the pockets of the masses. And you'd stick it to the system like nobody else ever has. But alas the shows on Amazon prime...it can't take swings at the system...it IS the system.
 
Okay so be frank with me. Is this show worth watching?

I read the comics ages ago when I was a retarded edge lord and liked them for their edginess so I won't loresperg or compare adaptations.
 
its alright. its not edgy like the comics , which admittedly i found a little 3edgy5me when i read them, though it has some nice action and shit in there. pokes a bit of fun at the whole comic cinematic universe thing
 
I read the comics back in the day, I think the show's pretty good. The humor largely falls flat; they couldn't replicate Ennis's humor even if they tried, but as a drama it's solid. As satire... ehhhh. Ennis had a big dose of pure nihilism in the satire that gave it a real kick; just about everybody was an extremely shitty person and nobody gave a fuck about other peoples' problems. The showrunners are too invested in doing a morality play to not come across as preachy from time to time, probably thanks to the Homelander=Trump bit.
 
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