The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Early 2000s superhero costumes actually had the look of comic book heroes. But as time went on and the MCU became more prolific, they moved away from that, until eventually, Avengers Endgame has them all literally wearing Star Trek-style uniforms. These guys don't look like they should be fighting supervillains, they look like they should be fixing the holodeck for the captain's next use:

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Those don't look like superheroes. They look like standard recruits on a spaceship. They're more fitting for a military or corporate outfit than a group of individual heroes each with their own personality or style.


Well, it's not like she's made for the male demographic. A trend that continues from late 2012 to the Boys TV show is that they make fun of guys who want superheroines and action girls to look sexy. Especially in the show, when Starlight was forced to change her uniform to a more form-fitting outfit and some guy calls out to her to show her tits, or when Stormfront shamed that Vought movie director for being a nerd who writes all women as unknowable Hitchcock bitches or Michael Bay fuck-dolls.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BzUevujmHLw
Scarlet Witch isn't there to look sexy, she's there so that the girls and wine aunts watching can imagine themselves as her in the heat of the action. She looks fine, but they're not going to go the extra mile to make her look young.
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She doesn’t need to necessarily look sexy or anything but she needs to at least look the part she’s supposed to be playing. She seriously looks like a slightly deflated balloon to me. Costume and all. Like someone got a very cheap life size Scarlet Witch balloon from a Mexican street vender and blew it up all the way before letting it deflate just enough to have those weird balloon wrinkles.

Edit: Honestly, thinking about it now.. if I didn’t know that was supposed to be the Scarlet Witch I’d have no idea who she’s even supposed to be
 
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DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
She doesn’t need to necessarily look sexy or anything but she needs to at least look the part she’s supposed to be playing. She seriously looks like a slightly deflated balloon to me. Costume and all. Like someone got a very cheap life size Scarlet Witch balloon from a Mexican street vender and blew it up all the way before letting it deflate just enough to have those weird balloon wrinkles.

Edit: Honestly, thinking about it now.. if I didn’t know that was supposed to be the Scarlet Witch I’d have no idea who she’s even supposed to be
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INB4 the Beauty Parlor regulars appear.
 
BrunoMattei said:
INB4 the Beauty Parlor regulars appear.
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In the five minutes since I posted that I’ve found some cosplays and one Halloween costume that look better than the official costume they put their “actress” in.

I think the headpiece and her hair are the biggest gripes I have. The headpiece is waaaaay too small and overly detailed when it really doesn’t need to be. It’s too dark red and an ugly dark red at that. Then there’s the fucking dye job they did on her mop of hair, you can fucking still see the roots you fucking hacks. That’s some real trailer trash shit.
 
DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
She doesn’t need to necessarily look sexy or anything but she needs to at least look the part she’s supposed to be playing. She seriously looks like a slightly deflated balloon to me. Costume and all. Like someone got a very cheap life size Scarlet Witch balloon from a Mexican street vender and blew it up all the way before letting it deflate just enough to have those weird balloon wrinkles.

Edit: Honestly, thinking about it now.. if I didn’t know that was supposed to be the Scarlet Witch I’d have no idea who she’s even supposed to be
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Well, I suppose success just made them lazy in designing her costume and looks. The 2000s Spiderman and Dark Knight films came at a time when people didn't treat comic book movies all that seriously, so they had to actually try hard to represent the character faithfully onscreen.
 
DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
In the five minutes since I posted that I’ve found some cosplays and one Halloween costume that look better than the official costume they put their “actress” in.

I think the headpiece and her hair are the biggest gripes I have. The headpiece is waaaaay too small and overly detailed when it really doesn’t need to be. It’s too dark red and an ugly dark red at that. Then there’s the fucking dye job they did on her mop of hair, you can fucking still see the roots you fucking hacks. That’s some real trailer trash shit.
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You are Lorenzo Lamas in that shitty reality show 'Are You Hot?'' using the little laser pointer pointing out the most minor flaws and going "Thighs are not close enough! Thigh gap! 6/10! Will not fuck. Next!"
 
BrunoMattei said:
You are Lorenzo Lamas in that shitty reality show 'Are You Hot?'' using the little laser pointer pointing out the most minor flaws and going "Thighs are not close enough! Thigh gap! 6/10! Will not fuck. Next!"
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I make fun of the men too.

For instance, and to get this thread a little more back on track, while I mostly adore Homelander’s look, especially his costume and hair, there are a few things specifically to do with his acting that bugs me. Like when he’s talking and he looks like he has a dip in all the time. I don’t know if that’s intentional for whatever bizarre reason or if the director and editors just really didn’t catch that during production but it happens all the fucking time. And granted I get WHY he does it, it’s how he’s doing the Homelander voice which is fine except we aren’t supposed to see that bit. To me it just seems super lazy and unprofessional. Which is a shame because he otherwise seems like a really good actor.
 
DDBCAE CBAADCBE said:
I make fun of the men too.

For instance, and to get this thread a little more back on track, while I mostly adore Homelander’s look, especially his costume and hair, there are a few things specifically to do with his acting that bugs me. Like when he’s talking and he looks like he has a dip in all the time. I don’t know if that’s intentional for whatever bizarre reason or if the director and editors just really didn’t catch that during production but it happens all the fucking time. And granted I get WHY he does it, it’s how he’s doing the Homelander voice which is fine except we aren’t supposed to see that bit. To me it just seems super lazy and unprofessional. Which is a shame because he otherwise seems like a really good actor.
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Lorenzo Lamas rated guys too, bud.
 
Oh I guess I'm the only one who actually likes Scarlet Witch's apprence here and I think the actress plays her fine. I thought she looked hot.

I thought she looked fine in the new Dr. STRANGE movie. I agree with everybody's Endgame critique through.

But now where just getting extremely picky.

Well now I guess I should expect all the "dumb stickers"
 
scarlet witch looked alright. just alright. didnt think she looked hot, didnt think she looked ugly.

anyways talking about the actual boys, for a fraud, soldier boy really commited to his deal with butcher all the way to the end. he stuck to his word even when he thought butcher was dead, and also once he found out about homelander. why even make him a fraud then if hes so proffesional lol. maybe at the end of the season its more personal but at the beginning he clearly didnt care much and just wanted to find his old teammates and yet he still didnt betray butcher or hughey. i cant believe it was butcher who backed out for ryan. lame finale.
 
pork and beans said:
scarlet witch looked alright. just alright. didnt think she looked hot, didnt think she looked ugly.

anyways talking about the actual boys, for a fraud, soldier boy really commited to his deal with butcher all the way to the end. he stuck to his word even when he thought butcher was dead, and also once he found out about homelander. why even make him a fraud then if hes so proffesional lol. maybe at the end of the season its more personal but at the beginning he clearly didnt care much and just wanted to find his old teammates and yet he still didnt betray butcher or hughey. i cant believe it was butcher who backed out for ryan. lame finale.
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Soldier Boy was just following the plan Butcher gave him. Had the Boys done something smart, like say, have Butcher take Ryan elsewhere while Queen Maeve and Soldier Boy focus on Homelander, you wouldn't have a season 4.

The cracks in the show's writing are horribly exposed. The heroes do stupid things that sabotage their own plans, leading to Homelander and Victoria winning by default. Sure, Soldier Boy is defeated, but Butcher unleashed that monster to begin with. Now Homelander has better PR than ever, as well as his son on his side, while his ally, Victoria "headpopper" Neuman, is one step closer to the Oval Office. This was a crushing victory for the bad guys, yet the Boys still act like they won. Well, at least you've got to admire their suicidal confidence.

I'm the kind of guy who can forgive silly capeshit plots if it can give some good action and payoff. But this? The only reason I'm staying to watch the next season is to see how they'll write themselves out of the corner they just made.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
The cracks in the show's writing are horribly exposed. The heroes do stupid things that sabotage their own plans, leading to Homelander and Victoria winning by default. Sure, Soldier Boy is defeated, but Butcher unleashed that monster to begin with.
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None of their actions ever make sense on this show. They could have exposed Homelander long ago with the terrorist hijacking and crash. Maeve was beating him in a standup fight. Just give Seal Team Six a dose of V24 and they could kill Homelander based on that fight. And Soldier Boy could have gotten the job done as well. It would also alienate Ryan from him forever seeing how cowardly his father was if he knew he let those people die.

Victoria? They have video of her admitting she killed her parents. Proof of her being a supe. Proof of her being the daughter of Stan Edgar. All they need to do is show that to the world. It would show that her arrest of Edgar was fraudulent and part of a strategy to lie to the public. That Vought and the supes had infiltrated the FBI and control it now. And that she was the one who murdered everyone during the hearing. Her VP run would end right there. It would take five minutes for them to do it in one episode. Vote for the head popper supe for VP!
LORD IMPERATOR said:
I'm the kind of guy who can forgive silly capeshit plots if it can give some good action and payoff. But this? The only reason I'm staying to watch the next season is to see how they'll write themselves out of the corner they just made.
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No way that they will recover from season three's finale. No chance. Every time you watch the finale you will groan through the stupidity. The show is pretty much all about treading water now and stringing things along for as many seasons as they can get.
 
TheHarbinger said:
None of their actions ever make sense on this show. They could have exposed Homelander long ago with the terrorist hijacking and crash. Maeve was beating him in a standup fight. Just give Seal Team Six a dose of V24 and they could kill Homelander based on that fight. And Soldier Boy could have gotten the job done as well. It would also alienate Ryan from him forever seeing how cowardly his father was if he knew he let those people die.
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That was my point earlier. Now that we've seen Homelander bleed, and we have V24 that can give you 24 hours of powers, just get a dozen karate guys V24 and have them gang up and snap Homelander's neck. You wouldn't even need Seal Team Six. Superheroes in this universe are a joke compared to the military, and now that V24 is a thing, and we know a Supe of Maeve's level can injure Homelander, it doesn't take that much to kill him. Shit, compared to Neuman, he's a side villain at best, his most powerful asset is his popularity. At least I can see half the country rioting if the Boys DID kill Homelander that way.

TheHarbinger said:
Victoria? They have video of her admitting she killed her parents. Proof of her being a supe. Proof of her being the daughter of Stan Edgar. All they need to do is show that to the world. It would show that her arrest of Edgar was fraudulent and part of a strategy to lie to the public. That Vought and the supes had infiltrated the FBI and control it now. And that she was the one who murdered everyone during the hearing. Her VP run would end right there. It would take five minutes for them to do it in one episode. Vote for the head popper supe for VP!
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Shit, you don't even need that to take down Victoria. Just have snipers with .50 BMGs take her out from afar. Give her the JFK treatment. It would be ironic for the head popper to die with her brains getting blown out while she's campaigning in public.

TheHarbinger said:
No way that they will recover from season three's finale. No chance. Every time you watch the finale you will groan through the stupidity. The show is pretty much all about treading water now and stringing things along for as many seasons as they can get.
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Basically, yes. Game of Thrones took 5 seasons to start fucking up. This show managed to do it in 3. Again, it makes the Kenobi show look like a success in comparison. At least the final battle in that show's first season made more sense and had more of an emotional impact. The final battle for The Boys' Season 3 ended with a crushing victory for the bad guys, yet the good guys pat themselves on the back and act like they won, just because "hurr durr, we defeated toxic masculinity!" Are these guys supposed to be the heroes? Why are they so damn stupid? Their Superman-style enemy now has popular support, and the head-popper chick is one step closer to the highest office in the land. Great job, guys!

Again, I can understand capeshit can be stupid. But it can still be fun. The Snyder Cut of the Justice League film, the Dark Knight and Spider Man trilogies, and the anime series Dragon Ball Super have plenty of stupid to go around, but they're still fun, superhero stories that can still be enjoyable and even inspiring at times. This show? It had some interesting ideas, but they all were for naught, especially with the good guys being about as dumb as a sack of bricks. I'd rather take Son Goku or Black Suit Spider Man over them any day of the week. Despite being stupid, they're at least somewhat effective, unlike Butcher and his gang of morons.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Shit, compared to Neuman, he's a side villain at best, his most powerful asset is his popularity. At least I can see half the country rioting if the Boys DID kill Homelander that way.
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It would be interesting if they went with Homelander actually being way less powerful than everyone thought, but now being too dangerous to kill because of the havoc his followers would cause if they took him out. That's way too smart for this writing staff though; they'll handwave V24 next season and go right back to "Homelander is an untouchable god who can kill us all in 3 seconds."
 
Just started pirating this and like it so far, finished season 1. Shame to hear it goes turbo preachy, it was already doing some of that with the bible camp stuff, but thats HollyJew for you.

Loving the Deep stuff though, seeing what you think is some big bad actually just being some sad bastard and his downward spiral is funny stuff.
 
DUDE, what if superman... was bad?!

Video essayists: omg so deeeeeeep

Isnt the whole point of superman that the idea of an all powerful being being evil was already passe, and he was something new? the thing with superhero parody is like any impression you have to love the thing you're doing a pastiche off
LORD IMPERATOR said:
That was my point earlier. Now that we've seen Homelander bleed, and we have V24 that can give you 24 hours of powers, just get a dozen karate guys V24 and have them gang up and snap Homelander's neck. You wouldn't even need Seal Team Six. Superheroes in this universe are a joke compared to the military, and now that V24 is a thing, and we know a Supe of Maeve's level can injure Homelander, it doesn't take that much to kill him. Shit, compared to Neuman, he's a side villain at best, his most powerful asset is his popularity. At least I can see half the country rioting if the Boys DID kill Homelander that way.


Shit, you don't even need that to take down Victoria. Just have snipers with .50 BMGs take her out from afar. Give her the JFK treatment. It would be ironic for the head popper to die with her brains getting blown out while she's campaigning in public.


Basically, yes. Game of Thrones took 5 seasons to start fucking up. This show managed to do it in 3. Again, it makes the Kenobi show look like a success in comparison. At least the final battle in that show's first season made more sense and had more of an emotional impact. The final battle for The Boys' Season 3 ended with a crushing victory for the bad guys, yet the good guys pat themselves on the back and act like they won, just because "hurr durr, we defeated toxic masculinity!" Are these guys supposed to be the heroes? Why are they so damn stupid? Their Superman-style enemy now has popular support, and the head-popper chick is one step closer to the highest office in the land. Great job, guys!

Again, I can understand capeshit can be stupid. But it can still be fun. The Snyder Cut of the Justice League film, the Dark Knight and Spider Man trilogies, and the anime series Dragon Ball Super have plenty of stupid to go around, but they're still fun, superhero stories that can still be enjoyable and even inspiring at times. This show? It had some interesting ideas, but they all were for naught, especially with the good guys being about as dumb as a sack of bricks. I'd rather take Son Goku or Black Suit Spider Man over them any day of the week. Despite being stupid, they're at least somewhat effective, unlike Butcher and his gang of morons.
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Misread popularity as pornography lol
 
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