The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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Serious question here. I tried reading the comics after I gave up the show when I watched season 2. It all seemed to be LOL SEX LOL PERIOD BLOOD IN MOUTH LOL DEPRAVED SEX LMAO MORE SEX LOL SEX SEX SEX until I couldn't take it anymore because I'm not a middle schooler. If I power through that bullshit some more, will it ever stop and start getting interesting or is it just that all the way through?
edit: btw I'm fully aware of the irony of my highly mature username.
I mean that’s the entire show as well after season 2 as well especially. We literally just had multiple man ass eating scene

Such a lazy ass pull. Frenchie and his backstory were the only funny parts. The loli Little Nina thing also was beyond weird. The Black Noir/Homelander thing was good but got drowned out by all the other bullshit in the comic.

I read everything Ennis apart from his 2000 AD stuff and War Stories, Hitman is my favourite comic book next to DMZ and i firmly stand on that The Boys is dogshit compared to the rest of his work. Even his work on Crossed wasn't as bad as The Boys. Just accept that people have differing opinions from yours. And that The Boys is shit :story:
Nah chronicles of wormwood is way worse
I find the comic strangely amusing, like most of Ennis' output you know he's masturbating to gore. The trope of Superheroes Being Evil was already played in ... I dunnow, 1987 with Marshal Law? And Marshal Law art is really pretty in a schizo way.

But you are greatly overestimating Ennis' writing if you consider it even half-decent: Vought is the least of the problem. Read the comic:

We're told that the Boys (comic version) are smart, trained and devious and that they beat the Evil Capes because Capes are strong but untrained. In the entirety of the comic almost all the fights and struggles of the Boys are solved by direct violence, and not smart violence, but simply dropping in and beating weaker capes repeatedly. All their internal info comes from one of the Seven being pissed off at being sexually exploited (not masterful infiltration, I presume). We're told the Boys and Butcher are Elite Black Ops, but their modus operandi is even below the level of real superhero comics.

Thus, the entirety of the Boys is Ennis masturbating to superhero copies being slaughtered on screen while he keeps telling us how elite and cool is the usual Military Man Protagonist stand-in, that does nothing bar hitting people in the face with a crowbar while being in no danger whatsoever.

The central concept of the comic is at odds with what the narrative does. Great writing. No mystery the show had to change it.
nah the reason why is because the boys have refined compound v that puts them ahead of 90% percent of the supes. And the minute they step to someone that is actually competent and powerful ( stormfront) they almost nearly get killed
 
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That's even worse. There's the kind of cheap and easy crap that's just sort of bad for you, like fast food, there's the kind of cheap and easy crap that breaks easily, like mass-produced knockoff Chinese goods sold at small convenience stores, and there's that crap that GETS SOLDIERS KILLED. Say what you will about the Yankee army, but there's one constant in that they wanted good, high-quality stuff to be mass-produced and reliable. From the Civil War to WW2, even to today, their stuff might not have been the most expensive, but it was reliable, and usually safe to use.

If Vought's products got GIs killed, then not only would they lose support, they'd get fucking black-balled and nobody would do business with them thanks to all the ''they got my brother/father/son/uncle killed in [insert war name here]'' that would be circulating all over America. Nobody would trust them. It's like with the Army-McCarthy Hearings and how Joe McCarthy was damn near unstoppable, until he went after the army and lost. The military is absolutely the last group you want to fuck with in America's legal and corporate world. They can fight back, and nine times out of then, they will win.

I don't think they've yet made a rainbow reaction sticker big enough for how incredibly optimistic you sound.

The US government wastes money on faulty equipment that isn't fit for purpose all the time, you just don't hear about it, because why on earth would they want to advertise that fact publicly?

But then, I live in a country where the government wasted billions during a global pandemic on PPE that was literally unusable for medical purposes, and for decades, we were detecting bombs in luggage at our airports with non-functional plastic detectors that did nothing, so maybe I'm a bit more willing to be skeptical of such things.

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If Vought's Supes are just that much of a problem, another company would've come in, competed with them, done Supes better, and defeated Vought at their own game by just making Supes that aren't sexual perverts or irredeemable psychopaths. Corporate sabotage IS a thing. A disgruntled Vought employee, maybe even Vogelbaum himself, could've taken the Compound V someplace else and another company would've started making Supes just like Vought.

Except that the comic goes out of its way to explain that no one can, NOT EVEN VOUGHT.

Vogelbaum is dead and his research died with him. No one else can produce as refined a doseage of Compound V to the levels required for another Homelander, and most of the population don't even know Compound V exists. Vought are the only game in town, and even they can only produce supes that are a fraction as powerful as the Seven.

All of this is basic worldbuilding shit that was explained to the audience by the Legend, in the comic. You know, during the boring bits you probably skipped because there wasn't any over the top violence or swearing.

Meanwhile, Ennis' comic can't even carry out its central theme of the Boys defeating strong but untrained supes, because the Boys themselves are just as much super-powered as their enemies, and they're usually better trained than them.

Have you considered that might literally be the point?

That Billy Butcher is just as much of a dangerous sociopath as Homelander, and probably worse, because whereas Homelander is vain and petty and a bit stupid, he's motivated, manipulative and highly intelligent.

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I mean, there's a reason the two of them are drawn so similarly. Butcher isn't a hero, he's a villain.

None of the Boys are good people - not even Hughie, who is arguably supposed to be the best of them. The comic itself jokes about it. There's a scene where The Boys are interrogating a secret service agent who only agrees to cooperate with them in the end because, "You're the good guys, right?"

To which Butcher responds, "'Course we are, mate. Don't we look like the good guys?" Accompanied by a literal full page spread of The Boys all looking sinister as fuck.

Come on, guys, this isn't exactly subtle.

Luicage67 said:
nah the reason why is because the boys have refined compound v that puts them ahead of 90% percent of the supes. And the minute they step to someone that is actually competent and powerful ( stormfront) they almost nearly get killed

Thank you.

Most of the supes the Boys brutalise in the comics are disposable, D-list wankers who are in way over their heads - they go through Teenage Kixx like a knife through butter, but Stormfront, as mentioned, takes out The Female, the most powerful member of the Boys, literally the team's heaviest hitter, on his own. They only win because they all jump him at once, and even then, they have to call in backup from Vas to even have a chance at beating him.

That G-Men storyline LORD IMPERATOR mentioned earlier? The one where the supes all get wiped out in seconds by Vought clean up crews armed with missiles and flamethrowers?

Before that happened, the Boys were literally prepared to march to their deaths trying to fight all of them at once. If Vought hadn't turned up and cleared the board, they would have got torn to fucking pieces.
 
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chronicles of wormwood is way worse
I didn't exactly like it due to stuff like TBI nigger Jesus but at least it was a very quick read with only five or seven issues. Been a long time since i read it but i think i enjoyed it more than The Boys.
 
How obvious is Starlight's plastic surgery addiction? Don't care about the show but seeing her look like a ghoul now is pretty funny.
 
On top of everything else wrong with this season--and there's a lot, not just the political signalling; the characters are so different and the plot so disconnected it feels like a reboot--on top of all that, they made Homelander boring. I feel like maybe he was boring in season 2, as well, but I barely remember that one.

The Boys ended with season 3. Homelander won. He got Ryan back. He runs Vought and is beloved by the public. He has influence over the Federal government. Billy Butcher is dying. A happy ending.

Why do Hollywood Jews have an obsession in casting WASP Americans as Anti-Semitic Nazis?
To be fair, look who they cast as Liberty/Stormfront. Or Varg Vikernes in that black metal movie with the Culkin. Anyone can be a Nazi now.
 
On top of everything else wrong with this season--and there's a lot, not just the political signalling; the characters are so different and the plot so disconnected it feels like a reboot--on top of all that, they made Homelander boring. I feel like maybe he was boring in season 2, as well, but I barely remember that one.

The Boys ended with season 3. Homelander won. He got Ryan back. He runs Vought and is beloved by the public. He has influence over the Federal government. Billy Butcher is dying. A happy ending.
This, if Kripke wasn’t a hack the best way to end it would be three-part spoof of All-star Superman rather than the shitty ending from the comic.

Homelander in the process of saving Ryan accidentally prevents a massive tragedy but “dies” in the process, he gets memorialized as an American hero whose face is added to Mt Rushmore.

Meanwhile Hughie and the gang are executed via firing squad for high treason as their handlers turn them to the wolves.

Last shot is Homelander doing a Clark Kent disguise at a Homelander memorial with Ryan in tow, he does a Silver Age wink at the camera and it ends there. The main character wins and the world is on track to become Earth-3.

All-Star Homelander
 
Except that the comic goes out of its way to explain that no one can, NOT EVEN VOUGHT.
Butcher literally injected Hughie with V. If rogue elements of the government can do that, you can bet your ass some dumbass corporation trying to compete with Vought can steal some V and either inject their own agents or study the compound so they can replicate it. And even if Vogelbaum's research died with him, the idea of what he created would still stick, and other corporations would realistically be running their own experiments to create their own superman. And they eventually will figure out the Compound V formula. Especially with all the dead supes lying around thanks to the Boys and the military. Some competitor of Vought could have agents show up, grab some supe corpses before Vought arrives to clean things up, study the Compound V in their dead bodies, and create a substitute or an even more refined formula.

The US government wastes money on faulty equipment that isn't fit for purpose all the time, you just don't hear about it, because why on earth would they want to advertise that fact publicly?

But then, I live in a country where the government wasted billions during a global pandemic on PPE that was literally unusable for medical purposes, and for decades, we were detecting bombs in luggage at our airports with non-functional plastic detectors that did nothing, so maybe I'm a bit more willing to be skeptical of such things.
That's not military kit. There's a difference between that, and the guns and weapons that Americans not only use in war, but also sell to its allies. If that kit is faulty, Ukraine and other US allies would be complaining about it with their media, calling it shit and saying that they'll buy their guns from some other country. They aren't.
 
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After hearing this and seeing Season one I'm terribly disappointed with the fall of the quality writing that it had. I suppose when you had one of the producers to arguably one of the greatest shows ever written, ie Breaking Bad, leave and have some Seth Rogan clone take over the project, the results speak for themselves. I mean would it be so hard for the writers and producers to show at least some amount of restraint and actually take the matter serious instead of schlock that isn't even funny? This is like Quentin Tarentino but absolute dogshit.
 
Butcher literally injected Hughie with V. If rogue elements of the government can do that, you can bet your ass some dumbass corporation trying to compete with Vought can steal some V and either inject their own agents or study the compound.

Rayner, who hand delivered the V to Butcher, states that just that vial alone cost half the budget and that she had to move Heaven and earth to get it, even as the head of the CIA.

Compound V, the pure stuff, is established as being something that not just any old schmoe can lay their hands on any time they like.

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Some competitor of Vought could

Who are Vought's competitors in the field of superpower in the canon of The Boys comic again? Oh, wait a moment, there aren't any.

Guess that answers that question, right?

That's not military kit. There's a difference between that, and the guns and weapons that Americans not only use in war, but also sell to its allies. If that kit is faulty, Ukraine and other US allies would be complaining about it with their media. They aren't.

Uh oh, Spaghetti-Os!
 
This, if Kripke wasn’t a hack the best way to end it would be three-part spoof of All-star Superman rather than the shitty ending from the comic.

Homelander in the process of saving Ryan accidentally prevents a massive tragedy but “dies” in the process, he gets memorialized as an American hero whose face is added to Mt Rushmore.

Meanwhile Hughie and the gang are executed via firing squad for high treason as their handlers turn them to the wolves.

Last shot is Homelander doing a Clark Kent disguise at a Homelander memorial with Ryan in tow, he does a Silver Age wink at the camera and it ends there. The main character wins and the world is on track to become Earth-3.

All-Star Homelander
That would make Homelander redeemable, which the show writers explicitly do not want.

Rayner, who hand delivered the V to Butcher, states that just that vial alone cost half the budget and that she had to move Heaven and earth to get it, even as the head of the CIA.

Compound V, the pure stuff, is established as being something that not just any old schmoe can lay their hands on any time they like.

Who are Vought's competitors in the field of superpower in the canon of The Boys comic again? Oh, wait a moment, there aren't any.

Guess that answers that question, right?
Vought used to make cheap shit for the military. Some company that makes better weapons for Uncle Sam would have more resources or prestige. And they sure as shit would have allies within the military-industrial complex that could get them a sample of refined Compound V for them to study or replicate.

And again, thanks to the Boys, there's no shortage of supe corpses for Vought's corporate competitors to steal and study.

That's a tiny drop in what is an avalanche of top-grade gear sent to Ukraine that proved effective against the Russians. The HIMARS have become a meme due to how effective they were.

 
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On top of everything else wrong with this season--and there's a lot, not just the political signalling; the characters are so different and the plot so disconnected it feels like a reboot--on top of all that, they made Homelander boring. I feel like maybe he was boring in season 2, as well, but I barely remember that one.
They reboot the show every single season. The overall plots are the same now over and over. Introduce some new characters to instantly kill them off to make sure that the main cast survives another year. Put plot armor on the main cast so that they cannot die only go away for season or two. Give some excuse as to why Homelander doesn't go scorched earth. Make the Boys CIA team fight amongst each other rather than kill superheroes. Temp-V kills you but you just take regular V to undo that.

By the end of season four likely none of the original Seven still left will be dead. None of the Boys will be dead. Homelander will be alive.
The Boys ended with season 3. Homelander won. He got Ryan back. He runs Vought and is beloved by the public. He has influence over the Federal government. Billy Butcher is dying. A happy ending.
Homelander will likely kill Ryan and Soldier Boy to start the next season. Or possibly kill Ryan to end this season.
 
I need to sperg out a little on this shit, just take a look at this:

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> nigger uses tools of a jew to kill a bunch of "white chuds"

I'm going to link a Sam Hyde clip here, but the TL;DW is that ugly/disgusting people make media of high production of stories that are immoral and gross. A lot of resources goes into creating stuff that has nothing of moral value, that is a sign of people who don't deserve "to be around" us.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RSjf2Zz2178
Eric Kripke is a textbook example of a jew who can't create something of beauty, he can only direct repulsive images and turn everything into a hideous story with nothing inspiring or worth remembering. It really is just a moral snuff film, if you legitimately enjoy this show, you are a disgusting piece of shit. Some stuff should not be made/produced or be preserved, because it has no value and is just made to demoralize you. This is why you should always be careful when consuming jew made media, because it's fucked up. The "it's a warning about..." meme doesn't excuse this shit.

I wanted to make a list of all the pozzed shit in this show, but it's literally every single scene, why even bother.

Also, shout out to Bigbunjeeeeee being the only anti-redditor on youtube calling this show out for how shit it really is.
that vid of Sam made me think. too much (((COINcedences))) lately with entertainment. I even asked neural network for a song about it:

 
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I stopped watching the Soys after season 2 and I always expected him to just snap and kill tons of people until he gets defeated but it still hasn't happened yet. Why?
Because they are raping the source material because Rogen and Kripke are that fucking pissy Trump won in 2016 AND wasn't thrown into Gitmo after the Democrats stole 2020 and half the country felt the January 6th protesters did nothing wrong/are on the verge of re-electing Trump in 2024.

In the comic, Homelander isn't even a god-damn villain. He was framed for raping Butcher's wife by Black Noir, who has been carrying out a lengthy as hell campaign to gaslight/manipulate Homelander into snapping and killing everyone so he can have justification to kill him and once he finds out the truth about what Black Noir did to him and Butcher's wife, Homelander gladly sacrifices his life to fight Black Noir to hurt him enough so that Butcher has a chance to kill his wife's rapist. And even then, Black Noir isn't even the final boss. It's Butcher, who goes full Captain Ahab and then promptly starts killing off the other members of the Boys so they can't stop him from carrying out a plan to murder every super powered being on Earth, forcing Hughie to kill him.

This showed up in my recommended on YouTube, and honestly, it really rankled me.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DTgv7wH7Gps
First of all, it's gay retarded 'war on Christmas' culture war shit that feels so fucking done to death - like, weren't we literally having this 'Happy Holidays vs. Merry Christmas' discourse over ten fucking years ago at this point? I remember Bill O'Reilly talking about that shit IN 20-FUCKING-12. Possibly earlier.

Second of all, I'm not against le fedora tippy anti-religious sentiment in The Boys - that's who Garth Ennis is, and that's how his work always has been. That's a staple Ennisian trope. However, Garth Ennis is a working class boy from Belfast who literally grew up during the Troubles, where sectarian violence was just the background noise of every day life. I think he has a right to be anti-religious if he wants to be, bearing in mind where he came from.

So, I'm not against the scene in principle, despite it being very dated and old hat in 2024. But, I do take umbrage with Eric Kripke writing this scene.

Eric Kripke didn't live that life. He doesn't come from that world. He isn't writing this from any place deeper than the fact that conservatives tend to be religious and that annoys him personally. He's also Jewish, so he, from a spiritual perspective, doesn't even believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ anyway, so it means nothing to him if he mocks people that do.

But more than anything - and I'm speaking as someone who doesn't have any religious beliefs whatsoever - what is wrong with the statement 'Let's put Christ back in Christmas'? As a slogan, it places an emphasis on the holiday's religious and cultural significance, rather than the more consumerist secular interpretation of Christmas we tend to see nowadays. It's not offensive, or hateful, or bigoted in and of itself. The scene doesn't even successfully highlight the irony of this message coming from the uber-corporate Vought International, highlighting how people's religious beliefs have become just another commodity under capitalism. It's just Eric Kripke pointing at people he doesn't like and going, "That's you, that is."

This segment reeks of Seth Rogen personally getting involved in the show and demanding such a segment be included, Kripke be damned.

Rogen has long stated that he fucking DESPISES Christmas with a burning passion, his "Santa Elf" project he did with fellow Jew Sarah Silverman was EXPLICITLY conceived as a passion project to shit on the holiday of Christmas (to the point that, when the backlash started, he put out a promotional video further shitting on the Christmas holiday, complete with him crowing about how all of the major Christmas songs in pop culture were created by Jews and as such, his tribe basically "own" Christmas and mock and deride it and attack anyone who likes it because "they made Christmas what we know of it as a modern holiday".

Not to mention that Rogen has long bragged about, how during Christmas, he takes sinful glee of terrorizing random kids he encounters during the Holiday season about how "Santa Claus isn't real" because he gets off on destroying the myth of Santa Claus for young kids who don't know Santa isn't real. And how growing up, he was glad his parents sent him to an All-Jewish school school growing up so he never had to deal with the Christmas holiday growing up.
 
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he was glad his parents sent him to an All-Jewish school school growing up so he never had to deal with the Christmas holiday growing up.
his "Santa Elf" project
crowing about how all of the major Christmas songs in pop culture were created by Jews

Again, I will refer to my post, a lot of jews can't let people be happy or celebrate something of beauty etc. Look at this

> How is this up on (((Youtube)))?

Notice how overly done the gore is (there are a lot of more examples that I can't bother to look up right now), now of course you can use the meme excuse "artistic vision to tell a story", but I don't buy it considering their IRL behaviour. I think it's the directors having a kike brain that simply needs to create shock value because that's what they value: brutality and suffering.

I want to make people understand one thing, ones art is a reflection of ones thoughts, soul and personality. The same demographic group who cries about "le holocaust was the most brutal thing ever" and "cries" when they see 1930's German imagery also loves to make gore porn. It makes me MATI that normies/regular people don't see this, especially now with such a "popular" show that is very upfront with its message.
 
In the comic, Homelander isn't even a god-damn villain. He was framed for raping Butcher's wife by Black Noir, who has been carrying out a lengthy as hell campaign to gaslight/manipulate Homelander into snapping and killing everyone so he can have justification to kill him and once he finds out the truth about what Black Noir did to him and Butcher's wife, Homelander gladly sacrifices his life to fight Black Noir to hurt him enough so that Butcher has a chance to kill his wife's rapist. And even then, Black Noir isn't even the final boss. It's Butcher, who goes full Captain Ahab and then promptly starts killing off the other members of the Boys so they can't stop him from carrying out a plan to murder every super powered being on Earth, forcing Hughie to kill him.

You're right, but be fair, Homelander was still a piece of shit and he did still murder a whole bunch of people and try to overthrow the US government. You could argue that he had been gaslit by Noir, but he still did several morally questionable things even before that and, y'know, 'Cool motive, still murder.'

And I think you're interpreting Homelander killing Noir in the best possible light. It also wasn't like Homelander threw himself at Noir out of disgust for him raping Butcher's wife and wanting to sacrifice his life to give Butcher a chance at revenge. He was angry that he'd been manipulated. His last words were, "YOU FUCKED MY LIFE!!" not "YOU FUCKED HIS WIFE!!"
 
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You're right, but be fair, Homelander was still a piece of shit and he did still murder a whole bunch of people and try to overthrow the US government. You could argue that he had been gaslit by Noir, but he still did several morally questionable things even before that and, y'know, 'Cool motive, still murder.'

And I think you're interpreting Homelander killing Noir in the best possible light. It also wasn't like Homelander threw himself at Noir out of disgust for him raping Butcher's wife and wanting to sacrifice his life to give Butcher a chance at revenge. He was angry that he'd been manipulated. His last words were, "YOU FUCKED MY LIFE!!" not "YOU FUCKED HIS WIFE!!"
He was more angry that he'd been manipulated than by the heinous acts Black Noir tricked him into believing that he did. He didn't give a shit about the lives he supposedly ruined; he's more angry that his life is ruined because of Noir's gaslighting.
 
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