The Amazing Digital Circus - Western Isekai that probably will become Hazbin Hotel killer

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I dunno, I always assumed that Pomni, Jax, Caine, and Ragatha Where the "A" characters and the rest of the cast was "B" and "C". And Ragatha is in "A" only for her ties to Pomni and Jax.
When I first watched the show, I assumed that Ragatha, Jax, and Pomni were going to be the main characters… maybe CAINE as the final boss or something like it. I assumed that Gangle, Kinger, and Zooble were going to be goofy side characters. With Zooble especially I assumed her design meant she would not have a leading role. As in, their designs were so silly that their silliness was the point - as a means of creating atmosphere - but that the characters with proper faces would remain the protagonists. It didn’t help that all the popular memes and references to the show hyper-focused on Pomni and Jax.

Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised when Gangle had her own episode (episode 3, I think?). I really liked it. I was caught off-guard by Gangle being a real person with feelings. That, combined with the earlier haunted mansion stuff with Kinger and Zooble’s therapy session, made me think that this was an ensemble show. Sure, Pomni is the everyman POV character, but I assumed that everyone would get “their own episode”. When that was contradicted by the gross over-application of Jax, I was annoyed. I’m sick of that stupid rabbit man and want to learn more about Zooble, Kinger, and Ragatha, who are actually nice people.

Now, assuming that the thread is correct and Goose / Cooper (Gooper?) really intended for Pomni and Jax to be the protagonists…. Lame. Like, the show is fine, and I’ll definitely check it out, but I have had enough of the dickhead rabbit man. I thought he was hogging the limelight before and apparently Gooper has no intention of pausing that. I wouldn’t say it makes me mad or upset, but I do see it as wasted potential. Like, great, cool, I get that the asshole rabbit man abuses women because he’s sad. I just assumed that Gooper would try to pass as a woman and not reward his fictional character for his dickery. Then again, maybe it’s for the best - maybe Gooper has no capacity to write an effective female character like Ragatha and sidestepping her keeps her from being ruined.

I don’t know. I still wanted something better and I hope Goop is overstating things when (if?) he said Jax and Pomni were the protags. Jax is literally my least favourite character and I would like him to stop yapping.
 
Conspiracy theory: Goose realized the ending will be a disaster and everyone outside jax and pomni will get no closure or screentime so he's poisoning the well early so he can pre-emptively blame the fandom toxicity when they quit forever.

Too cynical? Goose disagrees and said that would not be the case, at least for ragatha.

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btw goose apparently deleted this comment and his reddit account that i had no idea existed.

Glancing online, i am seeing waaaaaaaay more "omg TADC has the worst fandom ever stop indie creator hate" posts with +10k likes than any real hate or threats targeted at goose but i didn't search too much.
 
Glancing online, i am seeing waaaaaaaay more "omg TADC has the worst fandom ever stop indie creator hate" posts with +10k likes than any real hate or threats targeted at goose but i didn't search too much.
You see the same shit in the CreepCast subreddit. A bunch of parasocial good bois wanting back pats by proving how not toxic they are and how they're totally "not like the rest of the fandom."
 
This is prob cringe and I know I only have a handful of posts in this thread, but I want to apologize for my past behavior in some posts. I was speaking on speculation, and trying to evoke emotional responses for attention and my own amusement. I was being an alog and I don't want to be like that. From now on I will speak honestly when I have something to say.

I really like TADC and think Goose is good at what he does. I don't want to bring a bad vibe to the discussion or to KF by being a performative asshole.
 
This is prob cringe and I know I only have a handful of posts in this thread, but I want to apologize for my past behavior in some posts. I was speaking on speculation, and trying to evoke emotional responses for attention and my own amusement. I was being an alog and I don't want to be like that. From now on I will speak honestly when I have something to say.

I really like TADC and think Goose is good at what he does. I don't want to bring a bad vibe to the discussion or to KF by being a performative asshole.
Nobody's got a gun pointed to your head, right?
 
This is prob cringe and I know I only have a handful of posts in this thread, but I want to apologize for my past behavior in some posts. I was speaking on speculation, and trying to evoke emotional responses for attention and my own amusement. I was being an alog and I don't want to be like that. From now on I will speak honestly when I have something to say.

I really like TADC and think Goose is good at what he does. I don't want to bring a bad vibe to the discussion or to KF by being a performative asshole.
i don't even remember what you said in here.
 
This entire series has been such an exercise in why the "Story By" credit exists. It's one thing to come up with a premise and a general plot outline, but if you can't pull off any of the other required script elements, it's best to let someone else take the reigns. I've wanted to like TADC so bad, but the writing can't support any of its ambitions. The pacing is sluggish, the characters are too stock for psychological drama, and the tone is too serious for a whacky comedy. The fact that multiple posters in here as well as the showrunner himself all have vastly different ideas of who the fucking protagonist is demonstrates the sloppiness of the writing.

While this drama is all the product of concentrated autism, it's honestly restored the minuscule amount of faith I have in fans. I'm so used to people slavishly clamoring around an IP just because it exists that seeing any level of critical assessment is a huge improvement to me.
 
This entire series has been such an exercise in why the "Story By" credit exists. It's one thing to come up with a premise and a general plot outline, but if you can't pull off any of the other required script elements, it's best to let someone else take the reigns. I've wanted to like TADC so bad, but the writing can't support any of its ambitions. The pacing is sluggish, the characters are too stock for psychological drama, and the tone is too serious for a whacky comedy. The fact that multiple posters in here as well as the showrunner himself all have vastly different ideas of who the fucking protagonist is demonstrates the sloppiness of the writing.

While this drama is all the product of concentrated autism, it's honestly restored the minuscule amount of faith I have in fans. I'm so used to people slavishly clamoring around an IP just because it exists that seeing any level of critical assessment is a huge improvement to me.
I think the core issue driving all of it is that you can't really do a satisfyingly in-depth character arc for 4 of your characters in 9 episodes, so all we got is one character (Jax) hogging the screentime needed for that type of development while the others only gets bits and pieces in a couple scenes for their respective episodes.

about half of the runtime is also dedicated to comedy bits that doesn't actually progress anything about the plot or character, furthering shortening what time is left.
 
Jax being at the same level of protagonism as Pomni is just bullshit if not a straight up retcon, there was nothing on the initial 4 episodes that would hint you at him being that important. Not too surprised although, Goose never tried to hide the fact that he's his favorite character and the amount of times he draws him compared to the others was very telling.

But then, what was the point of Pomni? If she's going to get sidelined in favor of Jax why didn't Goose made him the protagonist from the very beginning? If he's going to cry about not meeting fan expectations then TADC should have stayed a slightly dark comedy if he knew he couldn't deliver on the character drama.
 
If she's going to get sidelined in favor of Jax why didn't Goose made him the protagonist from the very beginning?
Neurotic women are more acceptable to the average normie than snarky men. Why do you think that archetype has made up pretty much every Glitch show, and a majority of Disney shows/movies for the past decade?
Hazbin is a similar case, where it's clear Charlie is the character Viv cares the least about, and she's often sidelined for Alastor, Vox, or Angel.
They use the "adorkable" chick to get their foot in the door with the masses, then promptly shove them to the side for their real favorite characters.
 
Jax being at the same level of protagonism as Pomni is just bullshit if not a straight up retcon, there was nothing on the initial 4 episodes that would hint you at him being that important
I clocked that he was going to be very important since the pilot, he's the obvious standout of the entire cast just by personality alone, and the antagonistic relationship he has with everyone else was going to be a major conflict going forward, that said, its is weird that he becomes a side character from 2-4 before going right back to main character status by episode 5 onwards.
 
It's a shame gooseworx deleted his reddit account, there was probblyl some interesting stuff there. I found this comment in a conversatio in the wikia and it shows how this wasn't a sudden thing, goose was already aware of people complaining about jax stealing the spotlight


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(oh god will this show end with pomni unironically saying "i can fix him!" and hugging the trauma out of jax???)

And i'm not sure i saw anyone post the actual thing that Gooseworx said two days ago so here it is.



Transcript by me::

Goose: Going into this series, one of the things i never expected people would get mad about would be making the show about the two main characters. Oh i didn't even know you could get mad about that. It's like building up the show to be about pomni and jax and people are actually really upset about that oh i'm sorry.

Other guy: Well maybe it's because people don't realize that jax is the main character right, with the way he's introduced in a group of five and they think give more attenttion to one character than the other ones.

Goose: I think people don't know where it's going though. I've seen people get mad about their predictions that just aren't true so lets just hold that a little bit, i swear like, i swear it's all for something.

I was willing to give goose the benefit of doubt (no i wasn't) but why did goose have to be sound like a passive agressive bitch about it? It's not surprise that some autists were upset by this, it can easily be taken as goose calling the fans retarded for not realizing jax is the mc and mad their theories are wrong.
 
This entire series has been such an exercise in why the "Story By" credit exists. It's one thing to come up with a premise and a general plot outline, but if you can't pull off any of the other required script elements, it's best to let someone else take the reigns. I've wanted to like TADC so bad, but the writing can't support any of its ambitions. The pacing is sluggish, the characters are too stock for psychological drama, and the tone is too serious for a whacky comedy. The fact that multiple posters in here as well as the showrunner himself all have vastly different ideas of who the fucking protagonist is demonstrates the sloppiness of the writing.

While this drama is all the product of concentrated autism, it's honestly restored the minuscule amount of faith I have in fans. I'm so used to people slavishly clamoring around an IP just because it exists that seeing any level of critical assessment is a huge improvement to me.
Here's the sad truth about many indie creators, and Goose is no exception. Most of their "stories" are just blatant vanity projects that fall apart because the creator doesn't really know how to write a story, and thus they have no sense of direction.
They have watched a lot of movies and shows, and might even read some books, but that's not enough knowledge to write a story yourself.
If anything, they treat their stories more like a blog you would find on Tumblr or Twitter.
What's worse, they can't commit to any of their ideas.

Remember that the series' initial idea was that Pomi was trapped in this virtual world and was trying to find a way out. The problem is that she has only tried to do that in episodes 1 and 7 (Fuck, that episode was a waste of time). Thus, the rest of the series pretty much devolves into "wackey" episodic stories about the cast and their melodrama, and what made this whole thing so much worse was that Gooseworx himself confirmed that.
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So it's not hard to see why fans were angry when most of the episodes were focused on Jax, because there was nothing to indicate or, at very least, clearly build up that he was going to be the main character.
"Oh, but their rooms are opposite to each other, that totally makes them the main characters." That's not enough! You need to have the two interact a bit more early on. They don't have to like each other, but we do more of a back-and-forth between the two.

And it made a lot worse when you realise Ragatha herself is so painfully undercooked in this show, made worse when you realise she too was supposed to be one of the main characters, yes, really.
You can even see this when Reddit itself mentions the problem.

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You can find a bit more detail from Aye Lamo, a fan of the series (so take his opinions with a grain of salt), but the point still stands.


The Amazing Digital Circus does not know how to manage its own cast, and the fact that there are only two episodes left just further shows Gooswrox's inability to plan ahead in time.

How the hell does he even expect to end the series with unresolved plot points and characters that were wasted?
 
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about half of the runtime is also dedicated to comedy bits that doesn't actually progress anything about the plot or character, furthering shortening what time is left.
Wasting time is easily one of the show's biggest sins. Episode 5 made me want to shout at the screen to get on with it with how Goose damn near wasted half of the runtime on gags and that trippy little animation sequence, which while pretty contributed nothing to the story.
 
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