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Yamato, Marvelous and Akashi have all been confirmed to appear in Gozyuger vs Boonboomger in the new trailer.
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Pretty cool to get three anniversary Reds. Fingers crossed for Gaored and Zenkaizer appearing too.
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I'm hoping this is just something they threw in for the Vs. Movie and that they'll have a proper final Vs. Super Sentai movie where they got a bunch of colors back and not just reds.
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The 3 Dark Kings from Gotchard that had designs that would fit in a Lovecraft universe had their potential wasted due to Gurion taking over them as the more dangerous villain in the end. Lango from Gavv as the no-nonsense strong main villain wasn't bad and the Stomach family reminded me of the Sonozaki family from W.
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Which one should I start watching this weekend? The klutz alchemist Rider or the mukbang alien Rider?
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The mukbang one since most of the characters in Gotchard are quite dull.
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I actually quite enjoyed Gotchard over Gavv, on the other hand. Way better suits and fight scenes imo.
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Its wild that Sentai went through so much headache over recasting Sumino, only for them to film the finale during the time between when they fired Maya and hired Kohaku.
What was even the point?
What was even the point?
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Not going to lie, I don't like Gotchard at all. In fact, I pretty much hate the series.
The show is basically a poor man's version of Fourze, Blade, and OOO.
Despite using arrows as its symbol, the show is a directionless mess.
It has too many characters to deal with, too many forms for its protagonist to care about, and despite the main idea being to collect all the Chemies, it all ends up being meaningless in the end.
It never does anything that well, with maybe the exception of the suits, but even then, there are some duds like Rainbow Gotchard, Kamen Rider Valvarad, and Kamen Rider Eld suits.
Like, holy shit, this suit looks bad.
What makes Gotchard a chore to watch is that it does an abysmal job of explaining why we should care about Houtaro wanting to collect all the Chemies, made worse by how they rush his development with Hopper 1.
Even when they reveal his backstory, that he knew Chemies when he was a child, the problem is that Houtaro had his memories erased, and even then, it doesn't do enough to explain why he cares so much about the Chemies. The show gives you too little development to care about his cause.
It doesn't help that his acting in the show is awful.
Every time he smiles, it feels forced, and his constant yelling, "GOTCHA!" gets very annoying because he repeats his catchphrase multiple times in the show, which is just obnoxious.
Made even sadder when you realise his catchphrase isn't even original because that was Judai Yuki (Jaden in the English dub) from Yu-Gi-Oh GX's catchphrase.
What makes it even more insulting is how the show straight-up forgets about Houtaro's own father despite making multiple hints that he was going to be important to the story, only for them to forget about him because they got bored with their own subplot, no, really.
To give you context about how they came to that conclusion, here's their explanation.
"You are curious about Houtarou's father. Minato thought a lot about this topic, but in the end, he decided not to have him appear. Apparently, there's not much fun in talking about the reasons for this, so he won't tell us why. Maybe one day he'll talk about it, but for now, he encourages you to use your imagination."
That's right, they straight up tell you to just "use your imagination" about Houtaro's father.
Say what you will about Shouma, at least we actually got to see her and learn about her tragic fate. We learn jack shit about Houtaro's Dad. We don't even get the chance to see his face.
And what made Gotchard a sadder show to watch was that, despite the creators' intention to make it "cheerful and fun!!" It only gained interest with kids when they introduced Daybreak Gotchard, a character from a dark post-apocalyptic timeline.
That's right, the only time the kids bother to care about the show is when it makes a much more tragic version of the protagonist.
Even the toys reflect that.
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What's frustrating about Rainbow Gotchard is that he never utilized his alchemy skills to use his environment to his advantage after the debut of the form itself and just copied & spammed Legendary Legend's ability to summon his previous forms to assist him in battle.
I don't know why the writers even bothered to imply that Houtaro's father was going to be important later on. They could have just written that his father died instead and it would make sense.
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IMO No.1 Sentai Gozyuger stuck the landing on the finale (in comparison to the fumble of Boonboomger). The only minor issue was Hoeru & Kuon didn't go have that reunion with their family. That goes into the larger issue (about the series) of why did that group of humans fall into No One World. I bet things changed when production found out about this being the Last Sentai & they had to drop plot points to fit into the 49 episodes. It didn't help things when they had to factor in the Maya situation.
The most likely answer is they had to shoot the Final (or certain scenes) when Kurama(Kuon) was available. Plus they probably had a set amount of days they could film at that location, which just so happened at the time of Maya's firing and they had zero time to find her replacement.
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Thus the End of Super Sentai (for now). I need to go back and finish Uchu Sentai Kyuranger, currently on epi 14, & then its onto other Toku shows like Garo & Ultraman.
I want to dedicate an hour or so each day to Toku then on the weekends watch the new Gavan/Zeztz episodes. My plan is a different older Toku each day to avoid burnout like what happened after watching Ryuki/Faiz, plus Kiramager/Kyuranger.
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I have also just learned that Agent 6 Miss Kureha is the actress that played Queen Rita from King Ohger... I knew there was a reason why I liked the character when she first appeared.
I saw some outrage about this during the night & thought to myself "do these fans not realize how filming actually work??"
The most likely answer is they had to shoot the Final (or certain scenes) when Kurama(Kuon) was available. Plus they probably had a set amount of days they could film at that location, which just so happened at the time of Maya's firing and they had zero time to find her replacement.
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Thus the End of Super Sentai (for now). I need to go back and finish Uchu Sentai Kyuranger, currently on epi 14, & then its onto other Toku shows like Garo & Ultraman.
I want to dedicate an hour or so each day to Toku then on the weekends watch the new Gavan/Zeztz episodes. My plan is a different older Toku each day to avoid burnout like what happened after watching Ryuki/Faiz, plus Kiramager/Kyuranger.
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I have also just learned that Agent 6 Miss Kureha is the actress that played Queen Rita from King Ohger... I knew there was a reason why I liked the character when she first appeared.
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That's the thing, you see, much like Houtaro's father, they barely gave a shit about the aclememy aspect of the show but had to keep it in because Toei demanded it.
Thus, they turned aclememy into magic, which confused the audience so much that they compared Gotchard's rules to Full Metal Alchemist, which, in turn, made the creators of Gotchard very insecure and led them to respond with this.
"There are many voices that were (and are still) saying that the alchemy used in Gotchard is not "real" alchemy. That's true, but there are reasons behind it. When the alchemy theme was decided by Bandai and co., the planning staff researched traditional alchemy. But they felt like that "chemistry"-style alchemy had no potential, so they chose to go towards another theme linked to alchemy: life. Alchemy in the world of Gotchard has evolved and became a technique to give temporary life to an object (Matsuura also jokingly said that the current perception of alchemy is skewered because of Fullmetal Alchemist anyway). This allowed them to use the fact that the alchemy in Gotchard was different from the general public's idea of alchemy in the story. All they needed to do was to create a character that would give the audience that "real" alchemy feel (and also to say "guys we haven't forgotten about that alchemy!")."
This is why all the alchemy aspects in this series felt so helf-ass and why they made the main villain's goal to turn everything into gold "Because Alchemy is the pursuit of making gold!!! Dur hur!!!"
In fact, at the end of the series, this is how "really" feel what Alchemy is.
"I've been discussing various things in detail with Uchida-san outside of meetings over the past year, but before the meetings for the final episode, I called him once, which was unusual, to discuss something in particular.
The something in question was "What is the final message that you want to convey to children and viewers through the show Kamen Rider Gotchard?" After some thought, the answer Uchida-san came up with was "Hmm... I guess it's to never give up no matter what happens, and to keep moving forward."
That's right.
That is what Kamen Rider Gotchard, alchemy, and Houtarou Ichinose all were about. That's our answer.
Of course, if you look up "alchemy" in a dictionary, you'll find the stereotypical answer that Geryon talks about, that it is the art of transforming base metals into precious metals such as gold.
However, the more I studied the history of alchemy, the more I started feeling that this was not the essence of it.
A technique in which you dream of something, try, fail, and from that failure an unexpected result is born, which proves useful in an unexpected way, and then you try again, fail again, until you are finally casted away by society and treated as a heretic, but even so, you still believe in your dream and try again and again, failing each time, and so on and so forth, without ever succeeded once.
I believe that's what alchemy is.
In other words, never-ending homework.
In the wonderful theme song "CHEMY×STORY" written by Seiko Fujibayashi-san, there's the line "Rather than searching for answers you don't know, HOMEWORK is to try things out". As always, she showed her abilities as a prophet. Thank you very much for everything you've done.
The goal set for the show Kamen Rider Gotchard, which was Houtarou Ichinose's impossible dream of creating a world where humans and Chemies can live together wasn't reached in this final episode.
But this is not because Houtarou is immature or because we didn't have enough episodes; it is proof that he has become a true alchemist.
The way he will still continue to walk towards his goal forever is that very goal he aspires to achieve.
We live in an age of information and we often seek instant answers, but maybe sometimes it's best to try to do as the alchemists did, taking on that challenge of a never-ending homework and failing over and over again.
And perhaps those failures will eventually create a new "CHEMY×STORY" like nothing anyone has ever seen before...
So, this marks the end of the story of Kamen Rider Gotchard for now.
Once again, thank you so much for your support over the past year."
That's right, kids!
Alchemy is basically homework, but don't worry.
One day, you too will have the power to turn all gold into a phantom planet and send all your magical buddies, which ultimately invalidates your goal of bonding humans and Chemies, thus wasting your time.
I'm so glad money was wasted on a series that is emblematic of the worst aspect of the Heisei Era and Reiwa era of Kamen Rider.
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Yup, the show moved the goalpost from "I dream of humans and Chemies can live together" into "humans will eventually accept Chemies by slowly introducing them in a remote world."
It's bad when Wizard's "create magic by scanning rings" system seems to be a better approach.
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Said what you will about Wizard and its ring gimmick (though Beast would execute the idea much better with his driver), but one of the things it got right was basing its magic system on magic stones.
The forms were reflected in the four elements.
The spells were altered depending on the elemental form Wizard was using, the power-ups were a natural evolution with his inner Phantom, and even with how they cringly executed his final form by gaining it from a teardrop, at the very least, executed its abilities well, such as making it as hard as diamonds.
At the very least, Wizard understood how to work with his gimmick, to the point that he never really punched his enemies, and instead would use swords, guns, and wrestling in his fight style. because they didn't want kids to hurt people while wearing the rings.
It even introduced the philosopher's stone in a much more meaningful way through the tragedy of Koyomi and her father.
Where again, Gotchard just slapped in the philosopher's stone by saying "the Three Dark Kings were made of the philosopher's stone all along, but now the Chemies absorb the stone pieces because of..... reason," because the writers forgot again they were making a show about alchemy, had to slap in a philosopher's stone subplot when didn't had to in the first place.
Even Harry Potter knew how to pull off the philosopher's stone idea in the first book.
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Considering the Philosopher's Stone is said to give eternal life, it makes sense for Koyomi as empowering the stone is what motivates Wiseman to make sure that his daughter remains alive by sacrificing people for their mana. Gotchard's version was more like "granting someone power."
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I'm thinking:
- Monday - Ultraman/Garo
- Tuesday - Older Kamen Rider (Currently on Blade)
- Wednesday - Older Super Sentai (Currently on Kyuranger)
- Thursday - Garo/Ultraman
- Friday - Power Rangers Rewatch
- Saturday - Zeztz + Bonus Blade? Maybe Wingman/other Toku on weekend?
- Sunday - Gavan + Bonus Kyuranger?
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The worst part was how it relegated plot-relavent moments to supplementary material.
The fallout from the events of the teamup movie kickstarted the second arc.
Kamen Rider Legend first appeared in the webseries.
The Gotchard Daybreak plotline was resolved in the summer movie.
Put aside people in other countries who needed to wait months for fansubs. How the fuck is a child supposed to keep up with the plot if their parents don't have the time/money to take them to the movies?
"Sir, are you sure this is okay to use for the final boss? We just took an old suit and spraypainted it gold."Like, holy shit, this suit looks bad.
"It'll get like, ten minutes of screentime. Who cares?"
I'd say part of the reason the Chemies were so underdeveloped is because the show just didn't have the budget to properly focus on them. If you were lucky, some Chemies like Hopper1 got physical props, maybe a CGI model, but the majority of them were just static gifs confined to their cards.
While Gavv didn't really give them personalities, the Gochizo were much easier to implement in live-action thanks to having simple physical props for the cast to interact with.
Wow, that's a very eloquent way to say "We didn't give a shit."
It also meant they needed a few episodes to show it off, meaning the plotline about Supana stealing the Chemies and going rogue was relegated to a single episode.
Or make him Daybreak, the teacher, one of the Dark Kings, you name it.
To be fair, it was hard for me to recognize her without her covering her face and screaming like a banshee.
Counterargument: If you wanted to differentiate your show's form of alchemy from other depictions of it in pop culture, than why did you specifically reference alchemy's roots in the Renaissance?
This could have worked if they showed how much alchemy had evolved since the original intent to turn stuff into gold. Like, what if the discovery of Chemies was what revolutionized alchemy across the world? What if there was more focus on working with Chemies than turning things to gold? That would make Gilon's plan seem more like a rebellion against the current generaton of alchemists instead of making him like gold just because.
Ah, so they're pulling a Donbrothers by not resolving a major story element set up since the pilot and pretending it's deep instead of lazy.
Best part is how after the show talked about the ethics of suppressing memories, it ends by saying, "Yeah, most of the world chose to forget the Chemies because adults are silly?"