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DavidS877 said:
You're assuming your gas station has electricity, which they won't, since once the power company realized they started yet another giant forest fire they turned off all the power in the area.
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Wait till you find out you can move liquids with a bucket and rope, or a just a tube. Can you fit electricity in a bucket?

During Helene, we had places just use a generator and pump and sold it that way.
 
A Wuling Binguo EV catches fire while parked. / Archive

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Since the fire started at the front driver side of the car, the automakers can't spin the excuse of "flammable liquids" or "a power bank" being the culprit, but they'll find some other way to try to spin it.
 
I hate how much that thing looks like a PT Cruiser, damn.

I could see them maybe trying to throw the brake manufacturer under the bus for it; anything but taking accountability for the shit they produce.
 
Burnt Effigy said:
Chinese EVs look okay from afar, but look like plastic toys from up close, everything is just... Fisher-pricey?
At least the lower quality stuff like BYD, I've had the displeasure of being in a few and the illusion vanishes so fast as soon as it starts moving and/or you touch any plastics.
I'd bet the plastic on the doors and dash are going to be cracking/disintegrating within 5 years.
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I bet you have to leave it outside your garage for three weeks before you can drive it so all that Temu plastic can off-gas
 
Thiletonomics said:
During a BYD flash-charging livestream, the battery temperature reached 76°C. / Archive

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That sure wouldn't make the cabin comfortable to be in, if you decide to stay in your car while flash charging.
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Reference figures for those not familiar with batteries:
- This is surface temperature of the pack. The cells inside of the pack are likely much hotter. The lithium inside of the cells, even hotter.
- In a laboratory, Lithium enters thermal runaway (that fun thing you may know as EV batteries becoming flamethrowers and requiring a pool of water to stop) between. 150 to 250 degrees celcius.
- When cells in a pack degrade, it's not always even. When one cell is more degraded than others, it becomes hotter.
- Calendar degradation is just as bad, if not worse, than fast charging degradation.
- The only solutions to this problem is either to degrade charging speed significantly (so this megawatt charge is not that useful after a little while) or blow the pack.

Enjoy your fast charging! Because it's not here to stay.
 
 
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Thiletonomics said:
China has started investigating claims of EV battery range being reduced and charging times increased after OTA updates are installed. / Archive

In response to those claims, several auto makers like BYD, Tesla, Nio, Xpeng, Zeekr, GAC Aion, and Li Auto have all denied to "battery locks" being a thing, and BYD also threatened to take legal action against people who make such claims. / Archive

So this is a preview of how your car can be tampered with in the name of "OTA updates", and expect it to be selective, i.e White and Asians getting their EVs reduced range with OTA updates, while Blacks, Pajeets, and Trannies EVs are unaffected.
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Honestly I think it's because the cars catch fire so they're reducing maximum capacity and max charging speed.
 
Chinese automakers are raising prices on EVs, due to supply chain shortages. / Archive

So much for Chinese EVs being the "cheap cars" that journos and Soytubers love to praise.

Also, the profit margins on them are shrinking due to said supply chain shortages and extremely intense competition in China. It dropped to 3.2% in the Q1 of 2026, and reached a decade low of 2.9% in January-February. Total industry profits in Q1 2026 have declined by almost 20% YoY. And if you thought the cost-cutting and battery fires with Chinese EVs are bad right now, then they're going to get worse as automakers scramble to keep themselves afloat.

BYD is also claiming that skyrocketing demand for their new Blade Battery 2.0 cars is causing a severe battery shortage. / Archive

However, Chinese cars always having that "surge in demand" whenever a new car comes out feels like it's being astroturfed to make sales numbers look better for investors and the CCP. Or are Chinese that much of sheep and consoomers that will always buy the newest car available, like how they do when a new iPhone is released?
 
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Thiletonomics said:
However, Chinese cars always having that "surge in demand" whenever a new car comes out feels like it's being astroturfed to make sales numbers look better for investors and the CCP. Or are Chinese that much of sheep and consoomers that will always buy the newest car available, like how they do when a new iPhone is released?
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I thought they do that thing where they sell the car to the dealer or a subsidiary and call it a sale when it actually wasn't
 
Why EVs? Why not biodiesel or hydrogen fuel cells?

Why not alcohol-fueled cars?

S04E16 - Alcohol Fuelled Car - The Max Power Way

% Homer spots Ralph Wiggum's exhibit: A little alcohol-fueled car
% running on a circular track. He's trying not to think about beer.
% He imagines himself at a gasohol pump, alternately pumping gasohol
% into his car and himself. "One for you, one for me. One for you, one
% for me." BTR, Homer gives one of his lusty "Ohhhh"s (with the drool
% hanging out.)
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- Duffless (at simpsonsarchive.com)
 
Thiletonomics said:
Chinese automakers are raising prices on EVs, due to supply chain shortages. / Archive

So much for Chinese EVs being the "cheap cars" that journos and Soytubers love to praise.

Also, the profit margins on them are shrinking due to said supply chain shortages and extremely intense competition in China. It dropped to 3.2% in the Q1 of 2026, and reached a decade low of 2.9% in January-February. Total industry profits in Q1 2026 have declined by almost 20% YoY. And if you thought the cost-cutting and battery fires with Chinese EVs are bad right now, then they're going to get worse as automakers scramble to keep themselves afloat.
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There is zero profit margin in China, apparently the manufacturing capacity for cars there has hit 40m per year, while the domestic market has reduced (22m? Off top of my head).

This is why there is such a big push to get exports out - better selling prices and a need to recover fixed costs. But it all falls back to if the govt mandates growth of 5% it needs to be made somewhere, even if it means no margins and more debt.
 
Thiletonomics said:
And yet another country falls for the EV bus grift.
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I hope they park them further apart for long term storage. With them parked that tight, if one battery pack lets go the whole lot is going up

In other battery news, Cal Fire released their findings on an incident from 2022 where an outbuilding built to hold LPF batteries was leveled after one or more cells went into thermal runaway. Hydrogen gas built up enough that when it ignited nothing burned and it peeled apart a toolbox from the inside out.
 
Burnt Effigy said:
The only solutions to this problem is either to degrade charging speed significantly (so this megawatt charge is not that useful after a little while) or blow the pack.

Enjoy your fast charging! Because it's not here to stay.
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Betonhaus said:
Honestly I think it's because the cars catch fire so they're reducing maximum capacity and max charging speed.
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It's been known for a long time that frequent level 3 charging is not good for the pack, and often when people report premature pack degradation they're also frequently fast charging. That's one of the reasons why you should stick with a hybrid if you can't charge at home or work. Some owners already reduce their rate of charge to optimize battery health and auto makers are working on building logic into their BMS to dynamically adjust charging speed based on battery health. As EVs become more mainstream automakers are going to have to build more guardrails into their BMS to keep normies from cooking their batteries, at least until the warranty expires.

I also never charge to 100% unless I'm going on a trip, I have it set up to stop at 85%. It's better for the battery not to be at its peak voltage all the time and significantly decreases brake wear as regenerative breaking is available from the moment I pull out of the driveway. With the pack at 100% it takes a bit of driving before regen is available as there has to be free capacity in the battery.

There are still plenty of first generation Model S's on the road with minimal battery degradation but those are the owners who only fast charge on trips and are probably also doing 80%-20%. The cars will wear out mechanically before the pack requires replacement.
 
Modern cars suck. Electric cars look like shit.

I especially hate the dashboards in all new cars. They are too bold and take up too much space screwing up visibility. It's like they are all coffins you are meant to be sleeping in before you crash and die. The seats are too low. The designers so desperately try to get every last bit of aerodynamics out of the car sacrificing visibility and driving comfort. The cars feel less safe. All the designs are inconvenient with all this obnoxious technology forced on the driver. Electric cars are so funny because they are an amazingly simple example of a change in technology that has made driving less safe because of all the fires and bad accident performance. You have to be constantly on xanax or weed disassociating to accept this bullshit. It's a massive chunk taken out of your quality of life to have these poor excuses for cars.

Scotty Kilmer video where he makes fun of Cyber Truck:

It looks like shit. The turn-signals are in a stupid position. When I drive, I can easily bat the turn signals on and off in a fluid motion with the old traditional style normal cars have on the steering column. You have to look over to your right to see the turn signal is on displayed on the cheap computer monitor Tesla Motors got from Staples. The monitor replaces all the dash board indicators and is away from the path of vision of the driver. The gear selector is on the ceiling so you have to reach up and touch the ceiling to change gears. I'm too lazy for that. Why can't they just put the selector in a normal place. like buttons next to the steering wheel, like they did in the old USSR cars? The whole car looks like shit.

It's interesting what Scotty said about the headlights being too small; strange they are legal.
 
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