Team Four Star - Creators of a bunch of stuff to make people laugh trying to figure out what to do after a decade of comedically retelling Dragon Ball Z.

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Not to mention videogames, movies, hobbies and all other kinds of mental whittling are best served as a way to vent off after a hard day of working. Playing vidya for all day, every day, for years is like eating chocolate for every meal. Even kids would get sick of it.

And that's after when they get sick from it. Being in front of a screen for long can fuck the eyes up, having no breaks in between gives high migraine. All that is not even getting into higher territory like blood clots from lack of moment.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

And that's after when they get sick from it. Being in front of a screen for long can fuck the eyes up, having no breaks in between gives high migraine. All that is not even getting into higher territory like blood clots from lack of moment.

It appears I've been genetically engineered to sit on my ass before the monitor screen.

 

[Bork Laser]

See I like Masakox's stuff. It may be cringy, autistic at times, and the guy may not be able to voice act other characters...but he loves Dragonball. Unlike the other's he fully embraced himself in it and out of all the TFS people, he's probably the most successful. And does it all at home, and even managed to get married. He managed to find a way to monetize the Raditz what if by using OC's and his own little mini series. The dude is a smart fucking cookie. While the rest of TFS struggles, Masako has managed to use his popularity from the series and arguably make something of himself. Instead of shunning it, he embraced it.

Plus his what if's and other discussion's make for good background noise while cleaning, driving or gaming.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Chaotsu was born in 738, he's one year younger than Goku. In non-nerd speak it means he's 23 at the start of DBZA. Tien is 29. Give or take a few months, since neither one of them have an official birth month, only year.

Am I the only one who can never remember the years certain events took place in DB?

3. 10 billion more times "goku is a bad parent" for getting killed to save his son.

Tbf I'm pretty sure they're desperate to walk back that joke because the fans went so hard on it.

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

I havent watched DBZA in 5 or so years, but I still remember Nappa coming back as a ghost to haunt Vegita in his sleep and singing his name in the tune of the Ghostbusters theme. That was a funny lil scene. Only recent stuff Ive seem from them is Hellsing Abridged and that shit was too serious to be funny.

 

[Pig Boss]

Am I the only one who can never remember the years certain events took place in DB?

Tbf I'm pretty sure they're desperate to walk back that joke because the fans went so hard on it.

Nope, I never keep track of the years of event in DB/DBZ, it never really matters massively to the story, I just know there's seven years between Cell and Buu and 16 years between Androids and Future Trunks first trip and those are the only timespans that I remember.

TFS has a lot to apologise for in regards to the damage they have done to online discourse of Dragon Ball.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Am I the only one who can never remember the years certain events took place in DB?

Tbf I'm pretty sure they're desperate to walk back that joke because the fans went so hard on it.

That, it's mirror joke Papa Piccolo, & the OG Broly Bad joke nearly committed some fuck-ups for newfags who only saw DBZA, but not the actual series.

 

[Allanon]

Am I the only one who can never remember the years certain events took place in DB?

Tbf I'm pretty sure they're desperate to walk back that joke because the fans went so hard on it.

Nobody remembers the actual years in Dragonball, because Toryama didn't set 'year 0' to anything notable that people would keep track of. I'm pretty sure there's just a random mention some time in Dragonball of the year and that's what everything else was built off with regards to the actual number.

 

[A Random]

Well, that’s ONE of the reasons they said they ended it. And then there’s the Takahata101 factor.

The what factor?

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Nobody remembers the actual years in Dragonball, because Toryama didn't set 'year 0' to anything notable that people would keep track of. I'm pretty sure there's just a random mention some time in Dragonball of the year and that's what everything else was built off with regards to the actual number.

The main DB timeline is compiled using the years given in the guidebooks & games. For example, there was one time you could see the Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission website to get a gist of the DBZ & GT timeline.

 

[Allanon]

The main DB timeline is compiled using the years given in the guidebooks & games. For example, there was one time you could see the Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission website to get a gist of the DBZ & GT timeline.

Oh no, I know that. What I mean is the fact that Dragonball arbitrarily starts in the year 700-something and their tracked time, called the "age" starts at like year 125. It smacks of 'building a timeframe relative to a lone mention of an exact year some time in the manga'.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Takahata 101, one of the main TFS guys. He hampered production with editing he insisted to do himself multiple times and there were some rumors DBZA ended where he is because he hates the Buu saga and doesn’t want to do it.

Wrong person. Takahata is the depressed alcoholic canadian, KaiserNeko is the gay anal retentive editor taking production time with his autism.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Wrong person. Takahata is the depressed alcoholic canadian, KaiserNeko is the gay anal retentive editor taking production time with his autism.

Thanks for the correction. Those guys can kind of meld together as the head of TFS.

 

[Allanon]

It had been mentioned in the past that some of TFS actually really like Buu and some really hate it, but I forget if they ever admitted which were which. We can assume because Lanipator loves fusion he probably is pro-Buu saga, and we can assume because Kaiser is an insufferable weeb that he's one of the 'Cell saga best ending!' types who hated Buu saga. I doubt he alone decided to refuse to do the Buu saga, but him dragging his feet and making it clear he'd have a much harder time with it because of his distaste for it - after whatever happened with Broly where they had some kind of fights in the writers' room constantly tug-of-warring rewrites and the script itself was full of all these notes of how much the writer hated it, causing a disproportionate delay for it - could have been a deciding factor added on to other things for people to just not want to bother with it. Basically 'if he was this insufferable with the Broly movie, I can't handle doing two more Broly movies and an entire saga like this, I have other things to do with my life than put up with a temper tantrumming gay furry'

The gay furry who kept the joke 'pinup' image Lanipator texted him saved on his computer years after both of them were married.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

It had been mentioned in the past that some of TFS actually really like Buu and some really hate it, but I forget if they ever admitted which were which. We can assume because Lanipator loves fusion he probably is pro-Buu saga, and we can assume because Kaiser is an insufferable weeb that he's one of the 'Cell saga best ending!' types who hated Buu saga. I doubt he alone decided to refuse to do the Buu saga, but him dragging his feet and making it clear he'd have a much harder time with it because of his distaste for it - after whatever happened with Broly where they had some kind of fights in the writers' room constantly tug-of-warring rewrites and the script itself was full of all these notes of how much the writer hated it, causing a disproportionate delay for it - could have been a deciding factor added on to other things for people to just not want to bother with it. Basically 'if he was this insufferable with the Broly movie, I can't handle doing two more Broly movies and an entire saga like this, I have other things to do with my life than put up with a temper tantrumming gay furry'

The gay furry who kept the joke 'pinup' image Lanipator texted him saved on his computer years after both of them were married.

I don't get how you can claim you love the Cell saga and continue to completely rewrite parts of it and remove some of the most iconic scenes.

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

The filler is decent at giving you moments where Goku is a decent dad, the insufferable memes are pretty autistic though, lots of the defining "bad dad haha XD piccolo good" are either in a bubble without much context or in Super, the series that geniuenly flanderized Goku to extreme fucking autism, and the Funi dub doubled down on it even more

Latin Spanish didnt make them that retarded though, but its still very much noticable

EDIT: I wonder if theres any avilable EN subs of some of the Latin Spanish dub for DB/DBZ/DBS, its pretty great as far as dubs go, afaik it keeps to the japanese script a bit more (over 8000. etc,) and has some decent voices for Goku, Krillin, Vegeta and especially Freeza (Granny Freeza is fucking ghastly, shame his new TFS-esque EN dubber is fucking dead, Funi Cell is also bad, but his latin spanish dub is the same, so kek, i did enjoy TFS Cell and the way Funi stole that approach to him like they did with Freeza)

if it werent for the PS2 games like budokai and such giving me no choice but to tolerate the funi dub i would've hated it alot more kek

 

[Allanon]

I don't get how you can claim you love the Cell saga and continue to completely rewrite parts of it and remove some of the most iconic scenes.

He "loves" the saga the way many Cell saga fans "love" the saga. With their own headcanon fanfiction version of events that deeply misunderstand Goku and Gohan and Cell, which is how you end up with Cell and Buu being completely different villains but Cell fanboys insisting that Buu was just 'Cell done badly', when really Cell was 'Cell done badly'. Anyone who thinks Gohan's story arc is complete in the Cell saga and reject his characterization in Buu saga legitimately never understood Gohan at all, and only used him as a reader's self insert.

The filler is decent at giving you moments where Goku is a decent dad, the insufferable memes are pretty autistic though, lots of the defining "bad dad haha XD piccolo good" are either in a bubble without much context or in Super, the series that geniuenly flanderized Goku to extreme fucking autism, and the Funi dub doubled down on it even more

Latin Spanish didnt make them that retarded though, but its still very much noticable

EDIT: I wonder if theres any avilable EN subs of some of the Latin Spanish dub for DB/DBZ/DBS, its pretty great as far as dubs go, afaik it keeps to the japanese script a bit more (over 8000. etc,) and has some decent voices for Goku, Krillin, Vegeta and especially Freeza (Granny Freeza is fucking ghastly, shame his new TFS-esque EN dubber is fucking dead, Funi Cell is also bad, but his latin spanish dub is the same, so kek, i did enjoy TFS Cell and the way Funi stole that approach to him like they did with Freeza)

if it werent for the PS2 games like budokai and such giving me no choice but to tolerate the funi dub i would've hated it alot more kek

Super has a flanderized Goku because it's not written by Toryama, it's written by the guy who made Dragonball AF, aka just another fan. It's funny because in the first two arcs you can directly contrast this to how Toryama wrote Goku in the movies and see the difference. The easiest one is in Battle of Gods. In the movie, King Kai is trying to hide the existence of Beerus from Goku because he knows Goku is insufferable and will try to pick a fight with someone strong even if the consequences is death to all. He attempts to deploy anti-Goku distraction techniques to prevent Goku from finding out about Beerus, but his attempts are so predictable and transparent that Goku sees right through them and immediately susses out what King Kai is doing, figuring out about Beerus himself, In the anime, King Kai does the same thing (his tactic is slightly different, but the strategy is the same) and it is a resounding success. Goku is completely duped by King Kai. Another difference is - if I recall correctly - in the movie, Goku is much more sociopathic in that nobody stops him from going to the party to help when Beerus shows up, he just chooses to watch his friends and family get beaten up to see how it goes. In the anime, King Kai has to physically restrain him from interfering until there's no other hope than to let him try again.

It is somewhat interesting to see how the anime not written by Toryama handles the same stories vs how Toryama handles them. Filler excluded. Resurrection of F treats Gohan differently in the movie vs the show as well, but honestly I didn't like that movie much as I'm not a Frieza fan. You can argue about whether Toryama treats him with more or less respect, but at least he didn't write the cringe dialog in the manga where Goku just doesn't bother to ask his son to participate in a martial arts tournament because he thinks Gohan is too weak - but Piccolo is fine!

That's somewhat of a divergence from TFS itself though, since TFS barely touched Super. Did Chris Ayres die? Really? I hadn't heard that. That said, TFS and you are both wrong. Linda's Frieza is the ultimate Frieza. Shrieky little harpy with a Napoleon complex defeated by a bunch of monkeys because of his own stupid actions is much more fitting than the 'smooth evil galactic businessman' thing. It makes him too much like Cell and Super Buu (the better one, not the nonverbal one) and Piccolo 2x. All your villains can't have a deep silky voice type. You gotta break it up with the cackling old granny who can still somehow blow up a planet in '"5"' minutes.

(ETA: I see, Chris did die. That's a shame. The better Ayres brother is no longer with us, and now we have a copy of a copy to voice Frieza going forward.)

 

[Aaron Costello]

It had been mentioned in the past that some of TFS actually really like Buu and some really hate it, but I forget if they ever admitted which were which. We can assume because Lanipator loves fusion he probably is pro-Buu saga, and we can assume because Kaiser is an insufferable weeb that he's one of the 'Cell saga best ending!' types who hated Buu saga. I doubt he alone decided to refuse to do the Buu saga, but him dragging his feet and making it clear he'd have a much harder time with it because of his distaste for it - after whatever happened with Broly where they had some kind of fights in the writers' room constantly tug-of-warring rewrites and the script itself was full of all these notes of how much the writer hated it, causing a disproportionate delay for it - could have been a deciding factor added on to other things for people to just not want to bother with it. Basically 'if he was this insufferable with the Broly movie, I can't handle doing two more Broly movies and an entire saga like this, I have other things to do with my life than put up with a temper tantrumming gay furry'

The gay furry who kept the joke 'pinup' image Lanipator texted him saved on his computer years after both of them were married.

Reading this, I get the impression that TFS had a lot of infighting, and still probably does.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Reading this, I get the impression that TFS had a lot of infighting, and still probably does.

Eh, nothing that's been made public at least.

Anyone who thinks Gohan's story arc is complete in the Cell saga and reject his characterization in Buu saga legitimately never understood Gohan at all, and only used him as a reader's self insert.

All I remember from the end of the Cell Saga was the idea that Gohan was positioned to be the main man of DBZ, but that role was changed back to Goku because reasons.

That's somewhat of a divergence from TFS itself though, since TFS barely touched Super. Did Chris Ayres die? Really? I hadn't heard that. That said, TFS and you are both wrong. Linda's Frieza is the ultimate Frieza. Shrieky little harpy with a Napoleon complex defeated by a bunch of monkeys because of his own stupid actions is much more fitting than the 'smooth evil galactic businessman' thing. It makes him too much like Cell and Super Buu (the better one, not the nonverbal one) and Piccolo 2x. All your villains can't have a deep silky voice type. You gotta break it up with the cackling old granny who can still somehow blow up a planet in '"5"' minutes.

Why don't you go ahead and be the judge?

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

He "loves" the saga the way many Cell saga fans "love" the saga. With their own headcanon fanfiction version of events that deeply misunderstand Goku and Gohan and Cell, which is how you end up with Cell and Buu being completely different villains but Cell fanboys insisting that Buu was just 'Cell done badly', when really Cell was 'Cell done badly'. Anyone who thinks Gohan's story arc is complete in the Cell saga and reject his characterization in Buu saga legitimately never understood Gohan at all, and only used him as a reader's self insert.

Super has a flanderized Goku because it's not written by Toryama, it's written by the guy who made Dragonball AF, aka just another fan. It's funny because in the first two arcs you can directly contrast this to how Toryama wrote Goku in the movies and see the difference. The easiest one is in Battle of Gods. In the movie, King Kai is trying to hide the existence of Beerus from Goku because he knows Goku is insufferable and will try to pick a fight with someone strong even if the consequences is death to all. He attempts to deploy anti-Goku distraction techniques to prevent Goku from finding out about Beerus, but his attempts are so predictable and transparent that Goku sees right through them and immediately susses out what King Kai is doing, figuring out about Beerus himself, In the anime, King Kai does the same thing (his tactic is slightly different, but the strategy is the same) and it is a resounding success. Goku is completely duped by King Kai. Another difference is - if I recall correctly - in the movie, Goku is much more sociopathic in that nobody stops him from going to the party to help when Beerus shows up, he just chooses to watch his friends and family get beaten up to see how it goes. In the anime, King Kai has to physically restrain him from interfering until there's no other hope than to let him try again.

It is somewhat interesting to see how the anime not written by Toryama handles the same stories vs how Toryama handles them. Filler excluded. Resurrection of F treats Gohan differently in the movie vs the show as well, but honestly I didn't like that movie much as I'm not a Frieza fan. You can argue about whether Toryama treats him with more or less respect, but at least he didn't write the cringe dialog in the manga where Goku just doesn't bother to ask his son to participate in a martial arts tournament because he thinks Gohan is too weak - but Piccolo is fine!

That's somewhat of a divergence from TFS itself though, since TFS barely touched Super. Did Chris Ayres die? Really? I hadn't heard that. That said, TFS and you are both wrong. Linda's Frieza is the ultimate Frieza. Shrieky little harpy with a Napoleon complex defeated by a bunch of monkeys because of his own stupid actions is much more fitting than the 'smooth evil galactic businessman' thing. It makes him too much like Cell and Super Buu (the better one, not the nonverbal one) and Piccolo 2x. All your villains can't have a deep silky voice type. You gotta break it up with the cackling old granny who can still somehow blow up a planet in '"5"' minutes.

(ETA: I see, Chris did die. That's a shame. The better Ayres brother is no longer with us, and now we have a copy of a copy to voice Frieza going forward.)

In Cell's case, He literally has Frieza's DNA in him, he pretty much is Frieza in a way of it's own.

In Buu's case, he has multiple personalities. Only Super Buu has a the silky voice thing going on, & even that changes later.