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Brain Problems said:
They're being pilloried in the "mainstream" media. The most interesting part is that at this stage there is literally nothing they can do that will make this go away considering the entire thing was a fucking set-up from the beginning. They should have just gone ahead and ignored everyone and remembered that the 12 psychos on twitter may sound loud and scary but they aren't your customers and they were never going to like or buy your shit in the first place.

They can sacrifice Ernie to Moloch if they want but the rainbow-haired xhe-twinks and balding bearded bespectacled betas that defend them made up their minds long before this non-troversy ever occurred. Personally I would be happy to support them but just want to know the book is any good before buying it.
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They got ambitious with their projects but didn't have the balls to stick to their guns.

What they should have done is started with a generic fantasy setting with a crunchy, D&D 3.5e-style system. Something familiar to grab the nostalgia crowd by the balls. This new Giant Lands idea looks neat and all to me, but it's too weird and esoteric for a lot of people. And once Gygax Sr. & Jr.'s words got dug up and spun into outrage, they should have just ignored the social media storm and stayed the course. They didn't even have to be defiant, they just had to not say anything and wait for the next inevitable nontroversy to lure the screeching harpies away to a new target.

They didn't do either, so I'll give you 10-to-1 odds that their company withers on the vine. The woke won't buy it, and the people who are tired of woke interference (a far larger crowd in terms of buying power and word-of-mouth marketing) won't buy it either. They'll get that one book released, maybe one or two supplements/modules/adventures, before TSR goes under again. Good job, you idiots. You just ruined the reputation of one of the founding companies for our the hobby.
 
Man, I been reading through the LANCER corebooks recently since I had a hankering for giant mechs and they came recommended by a friend.

I will say that whoever wrote the lore of this setting had a definite chip on their shoulder and read like a modern political theory dissertations at times, which was extremely jarring in a world full of giant mechs, amoral corporations and genetic engineering out the ass. But no, muh right-wingers. Jesus.
 
Aqua Panda said:
So there are now musing online that TSR has cut ties with Ernie Gygax. Can't confirm but will try and edit something in if I can find something concrete.

Really disappointing if true that TSR bent the knee. Also, really fucked just how far gone the community is if people on Twitter can now gatekeep it so badly.
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He was dumb enough to try and slap fight the arfing idiots of Twitter and continue to engage with them rather than just ignore them and do announcements like a smart person would.
Brain Problems said:
They're being pilloried in the "mainstream" media. The most interesting part is that at this stage there is literally nothing they can do that will make this go away considering the entire thing was a fucking set-up from the beginning. They should have just gone ahead and ignored everyone and remembered that the 12 psychos on twitter may sound loud and scary but they aren't your customers and they were never going to like or buy your shit in the first place.

They can sacrifice Ernie to Moloch if they want but the rainbow-haired xhe-twinks and balding bearded bespectacled betas that defend them made up their minds long before this non-troversy ever occurred. Personally I would be happy to support them but just want to know the book is any good before buying it.
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Pretty much.

I don't have sympathy for these idiots, since they are trying to both keep out of the tard fights while also trying to join it tentatively at the same time.

If you're going to do that, just build an echo chamber like Darrick Dishaw does for his effectively no-rule, bad fetish writing he pretends is OSR. He at least has a cult of paypigs to drown out the screechers.
Corn Flakes said:
They got ambitious with their projects but didn't have the balls to stick to their guns.

What they should have done is started with a generic fantasy setting with a crunchy, D&D 3.5e-style system. Something familiar to grab the nostalgia crowd by the balls. This new Giant Lands idea looks neat and all to me, but it's too weird and esoteric for a lot of people. And once Gygax Sr. & Jr.'s words got dug up and spun into outrage, they should have just ignored the social media storm and stayed the course. They didn't even have to be defiant, they just had to not say anything and wait for the next inevitable nontroversy to lure the screeching harpies away to a new target.

They didn't do either, so I'll give you 10-to-1 odds that their company withers on the vine. The woke won't buy it, and the people who are tired of woke interference (a far larger crowd in terms of buying power and word-of-mouth marketing) won't buy it either. They'll get that one book released, maybe one or two supplements/modules/adventures, before TSR goes under again. Good job, you idiots. You just ruined the reputation of one of the founding companies for our the hobby.
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I guess you forgot about Lorraine Williams and her slow demolition of the company and poor treatment of the people under her and the hobby itself then.

And I'd have gotten Giantlands, at least a cheaper variant like a paid-for pdf or just the book since 80 bucks is a bit fucking nuts, if they didn't make the root of its plot hippy bullshit. That soured it for me, and if they ditched Ernie just because they believe Twitter's important, welp.

It means they in fact aren't about fun and will just make their stuff shit on purpose with a little pressure.
 
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Corn Flakes said:
They got ambitious with their projects but didn't have the balls to stick to their guns.

What they should have done is started with a generic fantasy setting with a crunchy, D&D 3.5e-style system. Something familiar to grab the nostalgia crowd by the balls. This new Giant Lands idea looks neat and all to me, but it's too weird and esoteric for a lot of people. And once Gygax Sr. & Jr.'s words got dug up and spun into outrage, they should have just ignored the social media storm and stayed the course. They didn't even have to be defiant, they just had to not say anything and wait for the next inevitable nontroversy to lure the screeching harpies away to a new target.

They didn't do either, so I'll give you 10-to-1 odds that their company withers on the vine. The woke won't buy it, and the people who are tired of woke interference (a far larger crowd in terms of buying power and word-of-mouth marketing) won't buy it either. They'll get that one book released, maybe one or two supplements/modules/adventures, before TSR goes under again. Good job, you idiots. You just ruined the reputation of one of the founding companies for our the hobby.
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I don't know enough about the system they are trying to implement other than the rubs temples D100, you are right. They should have toe-dipped, but I would say toe-dip with a stripped down system that hints at the crunch they are bringing.

I've gotten into a lot of the OSR stuff thanks to Questing Beast; I like that entire OSE base game - rules, class, economy, spells, monsters, teasure - fits into one 200-some page book. Its all orginal D&D Basic/Expert rules just with improved layouts. Basic was no where near as crunchy as Advanced (1st or 2nd) and I think they should have followed that model.

"Here's a generic fanatasy system, not even a setting, D100 system that is pretty rules-light. Cheap, easy to get into, introduces basic concepts. And now here is our high-concept Hippy apocalypse setting & expanded system"
 
robobobo said:
What? They're giant caterpillars, that was probably the world's happiest carrion crawler if people were dumping free food on it.
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I ran an adventure where the party needed to go get a half dozen carrion crawlers from a cave system and bring them back to the city so they could be trained and roam the sewers.

They lured them into cart loaded cages with pieces of beef. One ate a bunch and went to sleep so they carried it to the cart.

It was kind of fun and a break for the group from fighting Drow.
 
Corn Flakes said:
They got ambitious with their projects but didn't have the balls to stick to their guns.
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The part that concerns me the most is the fact they're planning on a theme park this early.

https://giantlands.com/
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Yet the game isn't even out. I haven't heard anything about the mechanics of it yet and barely anything about the world.

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They're going to have an uphill battle to fight now the Woke crowd controls pretty much all major conventions. They're banned from how many officially now? 3?
 
It’s a cash grab. Plain and simple, the company has no idea what it’s doing and is banking on the gygax name to get attention and funding.
 
I agree it's not gonna be remotely competitive to anything else out there today, especially if they are trying to throw together some advanced ruleset instead of trying to mirror basic.

I just hope they continue to piss off twitter. I'm looking forward to the reaction of them just existing in any con space.(if they are ever even allowed to go)
 
Adamska said:
Eh, Cons are just a new thing that industry people use to suck themselves off. Vital in the old days for Tabletop due to the lack of size to the community, but nowadays obsolescent in the face of digital.

I didn't enjoy the one con I went to years back, so I'm fine continuing to miss going to any.
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Cons, for me, used to be a great spot for expanding my physical collection. I could usually find someone that had a Dark Sun box I was missing, track down some obscure third party splatbook, or get ahold of something like Top Secret or Marvel Super Heroes. However, I've found good online communities for that sort of thing and with every con becoming a cesspit for troons and cosplayers I'm more than happy to never set foot in one again.
 
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Fagnacious D said:
The part that concerns me the most is the fact they're planning on a theme park this early.

https://giantlands.com/
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Yet the game isn't even out. I haven't heard anything about the mechanics of it yet and barely anything about the world.

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They're going to have an uphill battle to fight now the Woke crowd controls pretty much all major conventions. They're banned from how many officially now? 3?
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Themeparks are huge money sinks if you don't know what you're doing. Even the cheapest shit coasters cost a few million to set up and tens of thousands to maintain. They also do best when you have IP rights, at least for the big name parks since nowadays the period of time where you have unrelated parks are strictly for the locals now.

Fucking braindead idea and these idiots have ruined themselves for this stupid cashgrab.
 
Goodman Games is having a great deal to get into Dungeon Crawl Classics.

Softcover core book
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All for $35.00

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anti SJW said:
Goodman Games is having a great deal to get into Dungeon Crawl Classics.

Softcover core book
GM screen
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All for $35.00

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$35 for Print & PDF and GM screen? Yeah I'll take that action.
 
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Does anyone else genuinely struggle with finding a game lately? It feels like after filtering the woketards, I end up with either my irl friends, who I struggle getting together, or randos, where the game eventually falls apart. I just want to be able to enjoy my hobbies for once without a caveat.
 
Gingervitis said:
Does anyone else genuinely struggle with finding a game lately? It feels like after filtering the woketards, I end up with either my irl friends, who I struggle getting together, or randos, where the game eventually falls apart. I just want to be able to enjoy my hobbies for once without a caveat.
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After my ordeal trying to find a game of Werewolf last year, I've given up on new groups for now. I got two active 5e-centric groups I've been with since 3.5e, and I'm sticking with them through hell or high water. If a friend invites me to a new group, I'll give it a try, but I sure as hell ain't trying to find "open" groups anymore.
 
Gingervitis said:
Does anyone else genuinely struggle with finding a game lately? It feels like after filtering the woketards, I end up with either my irl friends, who I struggle getting together, or randos, where the game eventually falls apart. I just want to be able to enjoy my hobbies for once without a caveat.
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Dude I gave that card deck GM system a try and it's less pain in the ass and less weird than having to deal with actual people.
 
Adamska said:
Everyone knows if the DM likes to do sweeps that you do the Tusken Raider trick of spoofing tracks, then do a rope trick into your pocket dimension at an earlier point in said tracks and make traps in a few other random spots. And to always have at least part of the party up in shifts in case.

Killer DM would be to counter the party exactly or send in the monster twice the CR they should be able to kill tbh.
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I know this is old but I once started off a campaign by having the players on the road, they decided to look for a tavern to stay at for the night, they found one and all went to bed upstairs while the rogue passed out in the bar downstairs. Long story short I had a werewolf break down the front door, of course giving the rogue time to wake up as he banged against the barred double doors. Anyways, the party was lvl 1 and this was 5e so suffice to say this was an incredibly hard fight for them and I’m genuinely surprised and and proud of them for that win but it taught them that they can’t reliably take o every fight and that sometimes it’s better to run. The rogue was nearly eaten since he didn’t run or get the rest of the party and got mauled on turn 1.
 
Corn Flakes said:
Since you mentioned it, what D6 Dice Pool systems you would actually recommend and why? I've got so many more d6 than any other dice in this jar of dice I keep on my desk, I might as well try suggest my group a system that actually uses them.

(And no, Shadowrun doesn't count. That's why I have all those d6s.)
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Adamska said:
They also have ones for Indiana Jones as well.
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I liked the sound of Hollow Earth Expedition (d6 pool, you need 2 successes for a standard check). Unfortunately, no one wants to play it because it's pulp adventure and most players only want medieval fantasy or very specific sci-fi settings like Star Wars or Shadowrun.

You Bastard Guy said:
Does anyone actually play Rifts? Somebody is obviously buying the books, but I've never heard even the edgiest weirdos talking about it
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No. It's up there with Planescape and Dark Sun as one of those settings everybody talks about, but no one ever plays. And just like those two settings, the world of Rifts is so completely fucked that there's no real way to have an adventure outside of an extremely narrow range of well worn ground.

One thing that struck me about Rifts was all the hype around "mega damage", but when it read it, it's just damage reduction and armour piercing. I fail to see the appeal.

Kane Lives said:
Man, I been reading through the LANCER corebooks recently since I had a hankering for giant mechs and they came recommended by a friend.

I will say that whoever wrote the lore of this setting had a definite chip on their shoulder and read like a modern political theory dissertations at times, which was extremely jarring in a world full of giant mechs, amoral corporations and genetic engineering out the ass. But no, muh right-wingers. Jesus.
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I've heard of Lancer a lot, but never read it deeply enough to have an opinion.

It's really hard to find a good mech game. Most are either really complex (Mechwarrior) or extremely simple (Tiny Frontiers first edition). Others are simply vague, broken, or incomplete. The big problem is how to balance in mech and out of mech combat. Does Lancer do it well?

Gingervitis said:
Does anyone else genuinely struggle with finding a game lately?
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Lately? I've always struggled finding a game. People will talk at length about how much they want to play, but whenever I tried to set it up a game they'd roll out the excuse machine.
 
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