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I simply cannot fathom why they decided to release the fucking Artificer as its own class (as opposed to two or three unrelated Wizard subclasses), but Warlord was left out to dry.

One is a class that requires you to have a setting with tinkerers/magic/magical tinkerers and pretty much forces things in a steampunk/clockpunk direction... the other is a badass character archetype that works in literally every single D&D world out there. And it's the second one that gets thrown in the trash?!

DND favoring magic users over martials is totally new and mindblowing.
 
After finding out that Hero Forge has released Hero Forge 2.0 beta I decided to try it out. So far it's not bad in terms of colour choices but they haven't added too many parts, just body types. Something I did in under 10 minutes.
Cost isn't bad either. $44.99 US. That's a lot cheaper than buying a mini and getting it custom painted.
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Basically how my old mage looks.
 
The color printing is not nearly so good as the preview images.
That would be because of the camera. Best to put a filter on it as screens never give you the real colour. I believe what they're using in terms of "painting" miniatures is sandstone that shapeways uses since that's who does their 3d printing.
At least the image will look the same for tokens for VTT's and Tabletop Simulator.

From what I've seen metallic's don't look metallic and the colour will be muted, but if you can't paint this is a good option.
 
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Better than nothing, yeah. Painting minis really isn't difficult, however; a person with zero artistic talent like me pretty easily reached the point of basic competence just painting the occasional mini back in high school when there weren't any pre-colored options. And now there are tons of websites/youtube videos/etc with actual good painters giving solid instructions.
 
Better than nothing, yeah. Painting minis really isn't difficult, however; a person with zero artistic talent like me pretty easily reached the point of basic competence just painting the occasional mini back in high school when there weren't any pre-colored options. And now there are tons of websites/youtube videos/etc with actual good painters giving solid instructions.
It's also a lot more fun to paint your own, IMO. In one of my first TTRPG groups I was in, all of us trucked into the city to go to a miniature wargames store and buy the most accurate figures we could find, then painted those ourselves. Getting together and showing off what we'd made was very rewarding.
 
Better than nothing, yeah. Painting minis really isn't difficult, however; a person with zero artistic talent like me pretty easily reached the point of basic competence just painting the occasional mini back in high school when there weren't any pre-colored options. And now there are tons of websites/youtube videos/etc with actual good painters giving solid instructions.
Not everyone has the hand eye coordination to do it, plus not every miniature suits peoples needs. Reaper tends to have a few good warriors, but trying to get a good necromancer is a bitch. You could kitbash, but Reaper doesn't have everything in their Bones series so you'll have to try and kitbash with metal minis. Privateer Press is a little better with their white metal, it just needs a little liquid green stuff.
 
I can sometimes get through Hero System, than again I like Physics. I would say though there's probably more math going on in that game than the typical tests I have to do.

HERO Designer is the best money you'll ever spend on software/best software you'll ever pirate. Then you just have to ban adding strength to attack with advantages and you never have to worry about math in HERO again. (And strength is still really good for dealing with entangles and grappling.)
 
That would be because of the camera. Best to put a filter on it as screens never give you the real colour. I believe what they're using in terms of "painting" miniatures is sandstone that shapeways uses since that's who does their 3d printing.
At least the image will look the same for tokens for VTT's and Tabletop Simulator.

From what I've seen metallic's don't look metallic and the colour will be muted, but if you can't paint this is a good option.

could've sworn they use hp's inkjet tech for their minis, which should have a higher resolution. or might be one of their "special" models, every now and then people get a figure that looks like it was fdm-printed with clearly visible layer lines etc. however they apparently exchange those without much fuss, so there's that.

Not everyone has the hand eye coordination to do it, plus not every miniature suits peoples needs. Reaper tends to have a few good warriors, but trying to get a good necromancer is a bitch. You could kitbash, but Reaper doesn't have everything in their Bones series so you'll have to try and kitbash with metal minis. Privateer Press is a little better with their white metal, it just needs a little liquid green stuff.

at a certain point getting a 3d printer is simply the more economical option, money and time-wise. depending on your group you can even pool the money and have someone with the spare time (and space) take care of it. the biggest irony with corona is everybody is sitting at home which you could be spend on 3d printing, but now no one meets up physically so why bother...

anyway, as great as the reaper kickstarters are there's simply a limit to what's officially available and when. and something that turns me off from it, paining a figure that cost double-digit bucks and potentially messing it up is completely different when you can just print another one for like 2 bucks, as often as you like (sure, there's ways to get rid of the paint and start over, but that just adds to the hassle imo). not to mention all the options when it comes to customizing it, much easier and faster to just splice something together in blender or even meshmixer than mess around with knives and green stuff. just being able to scale them to some consistent size makes it valuable for me, no more mixing 34mm "heroic" with some old 28mm.

I didn’t notice a screen as part of the humble bundle. I did find some minis here. I also found some cyberpunk battle mats here. And in this link I just searched cyberpunk. *Edit* I also found some dice here. Also the humble bundle does includes a dm screen but you have to print it out :/ .

the 3d minis from the humble bundle aren't that great a deal imo, ~16 yurobucks for a bunch of mishmash figures, some of them frogs (limiting where they can be used) when you can get a patreon's monthly release for around 10 bucks that have a consistent theme with enough options to mix&match (some of them even come prepared for that, like the artisan guild stuff. they're also not super cunts with the prices, you can get a whole pre-supported release for around 30 bucks on their myminifactory page, and you usually get a 50% voucher for backing a month, if there isn't a sale anyway, like right now for example).
if the WoW style isn't your thing, loot studios is a bit more expensive (15 bucks per month), but their style is more realistic and they have a great selection of pieces in their welcome pack. they also make their own tutorials and it feels they put a bit more effort in it, however they're not on patreon etc so they kinda fly under the radar a bit.

if you want cyberpunk there's unit9, great models but they still make the retarded mistake of putting release previews behind a paywall, which shouldn't be a thing anymore.

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titanforge has their own cyberpunk spin-off line now, and there's also papsikels which does a lot of cyberpunk

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Maybe it'd be worth a shot to slap on some varnish on the mini. Sometimes, the smoother surface helps the colors come out better. A coarse surface will always dull the colors due to light refraction.
There's also the issue with white flake in sandstone minis, but since these can take a beating on the table and in your backpack without paint chipping that's okay. People have asked if they can handle various varnishes and they said it can so that's a bonus.
 
can take a beating on the table and in your backpack without paint chipping that's okay
>not using a Feldherr carry set for your miniatures
>ishygddt

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What, do you carry your miniatures loose in your backpack like some kind of neanderthal?
I legit know a guy who's really amazing at painting minis and he actually just throws them into a cardboard box when he's done playing. He also just kind of up-ends the box to put them on the table before sorting through them...

 
>not using a Feldherr carry set for your miniatures
>ishygddt

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What, do you carry your miniatures loose in your backpack like some kind of neanderthal?
I legit know a guy who's really amazing at painting minis and he actually just throws them into a cardboard box when he's done playing. He also just kind of up-ends the box to put them on the table before sorting through them...
I carry my RP miniatures in the same Crown Royal bag I use for my dice, like how the gods intended!
 
They didn't even use the actual generation the manchildren from years ago love; they used the generation they apparently hated.

Speaking of out of touch, here's the take on the combat wheelchair that was talked about a while back:

It gets pretty dumb; why even have the disabled person when you can just use the mind link to flank with a bunch of wheelchairs?
 
I simply cannot fathom why they decided to release the fucking Artificer as its own class (as opposed to two or three unrelated Wizard subclasses), but Warlord was left out to dry.

One is a class that requires you to have a setting with tinkerers/magic/magical tinkerers and pretty much forces things in a steampunk/clockpunk direction... the other is a badass character archetype that works in literally every single D&D world out there. And it's the second one that gets thrown in the trash?!


Sorry, man. You should have asked me that like five years ago. I forgot most of the build knowledge I had for 4e. From what I could see after a really quick skim (my 4e books smell like new again, that's how long they've been closed), it looks like a pretty good build. In my experience, Warlord is very easy to build for, and most of the thinking happens during combat as you decide who you're buffing with what and when, either to get them out of trouble, get them where they need to be, or to enable some truly beautiful combos.

I'll always have a soft spot for 4e, if for no other reason because they made martial combat its own world of possibilities instead of just "I hit him with my axe" or "I shoot him twice with my bow" or "I activate Power Attack and miss".

You basically gave me the advice I needed right there, given all these options! So thanks for that. As long as I'm buffing and swinging from the front lines, then I think I'll do just fine with this.
 
Regarding wheelchairs, my wizard player uses a wheelchair wizard mini on tabletop simulator and it's pretty enjoyable. No gameplay effects or even roleplaying, it's just the model we stuck with.
The issue we really had was the author was very combative, insecure, and made an extremely broken pile of shit wondrous item for really cheap. Honestly, a disabled character can be fun.

Just imagine a caster being carried by the barbarian in a Master Blaster style set up for example. Or the old man who constantly is lost in dementia. Can be fun.
 
The issue we really had was the author was very combative, insecure, and made an extremely broken pile of shit wondrous item for really cheap. Honestly, a disabled character can be fun.

Just imagine a caster being carried by the barbarian in a Master Blaster style set up for example. Or the old man who constantly is lost in dementia. Can be fun.
For a more recent and extremely popular example, Bran from ASOIAF comes to mind.

And to add to what you said about what drew our ire: The insinuation that a disabled person can't enjoy DnD without finding their exact disability being represented blatantly on a mini is a slap in the face of a community that pretty much accepts anyone who has a genuine interest in the game. You could be blind or in a wheelchair or whatever and people would judge you on how you play your characters or whether you like pathfinder, but absolutely no one would go "Nah, not playing with a cripple!". It's also rather questionable to reduce someone down to their disability in the way the miniatures did. So, some dude in a wheelchair is nothing more than a dude in a wheelchair? And that is somehow a positive thing to say in SJW-world? How does that work? It's the exact same logic that reduces women to being a set of tits.

The miniatures themselves were rather nicely designed, but the idea that's behind them is what makes so many people weary.
 
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For a more recent and extremely popular example, Bran from ASOIAF comes to mind.

And to add to what you said about what drew our ire: The insinuation that a disabled person can't enjoy DnD without finding their exact disability being represented blatantly on a mini is a slap in the face of a community that pretty much accepts anyone who has a genuine interest in the game. You could be blind or in a wheelchair or whatever and people would judge you on how you play your characters or whether you like pathfinder, but absolutely no one would go "Nah, not playing with a cripple!". It's also rather questionable to reduce someone down to their disability in the way the miniatures did. So, some dude in a wheelchair is nothing more than a dude in a wheelchair? And that is somehow a positive thing to say in SJW-world? How does that work? It's the exact same logic that reduces women to being a set of tits.

The miniatures themselves were rafter nicely designed, but the idea that's behind them is what makes so many people weary.
Addendum to the addendum:

Their "solution" to the issue was to make being a "disabled" character on a wheelchair better than having a fully functional pair of legs. So besides their shitty attitude, their rules made no sense either in-universe or even rules-wise. A perfectly normal, portable wheelchair with no enchantments is somehow sturdier than a half-ton oak table!

Characters with some sort of disadvantage to them can be extremely fun to play, but you have to approach them with a creative attitude, and knowing that some issues won't be easily fixed or bypassed and you'll just have to deal with them. That's half the fun of playing a guy with just one leg, or whatever you're doing. It's the satisfaction of making it work in hard mode. But these preachy idiots can't be assed to be creative, or to face a challenge. They just want their "flaws" to be waived so they can say they're playing a character with some sort of problem, yet face no hardship for it.

They're the D&D version of the Vampire player who plays a trickster Ravnos, attempts to cheat, lie and steal from every sentient entity they meet, and then throws a hissy fit and bitches for weeks when the consequences of their characters' actions catch up to them.
 
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