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So, is "Fifth Edition" now a marketing gimmick?

Two more games are coming out with their own 5e. Werewolf: The Apocalypse was destined (or doomed) to have one, and it's coming out next year. And Mechwarrior RPG 5e (also known as Mechwarrior Destiny).

I thought V5 was doing fine up until people go their hands on the Anarch book. Now that Modiphius has the full license, they may tone down on such stuff.

But W5 is going to be Hunters Entertainment. So, a fragmentation of the World of Darkness is beginning. No word on cross-compatibility yet, and I'm guessing there won't be any. Either another company will release crossover rules as a four dollar pdf on Drivethru, or people will homebrew it to hell and back, often favoring their supernatural creature of choice. I never was a big fan of Werewolf until I started reading it free of the munchkin/min-maxer culture. Then I thought it was workable. But now? Are we going to have werewolves that have ritually dedicated purple fur-dye? Rite of the True Gender, or some bullshit?

Then there's Mechwarrior, a personal favorite of mine. A Time of War was one of the crunchiest and painful systems at the beginning. Character creation can take hours. You have to practically have a session -1, then a session 0. The new system is very, very rules lite. It's no longer a GM and Players game, but a "shared world" RPG, where the GM stick is handed off to every player in a session, and each player describes their actions and influence on the others. In essene, you're handing your characters "destiny" to other players. Not sure what to make of that.
 
What the actual fuck is happening with DnD atm with this orc shit and now this:

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Has this self isolation brought out all the rëtards who have nothing better to do than scour old DnD books to find shit to be angry about? And how does this woke bootlicker plan on 'fixing' this? This book is 4 years old now. I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes from this because words are cheap. He basically can say 'We'll do something' and then not do anything but at least he confirmed their stupid shit complaint?

The entire spergout over her hiding her fake leg is just the most butthurt screaming. 'BEING DISABLED ISN'T BEING WEAK REEEEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ASHAMED' Uh, newsflash, missing limbs inherently does make you a worse fighter and weaker by definition. And apparrently having a character with a complex feeling who 'hides' it (for tactical reasons I thought) is BAD REPRESENTATION and internalized ableism. Complexity isn't allowed anymore. Everyone must be paragons of beige milquetoast flavouring.

...I think I'm done with DnD if they sincerely change this and act like spineless losers over orcs and crippled NPCs. I hope WotC collaspes under the weight of trying to appeal to woke rëtards honestly.
 
knightlautrec said:
What the actual fuck is happening with DnD atm with this orc shit and now this:

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Has this self isolation brought out all the rëtards who have nothing better to do than scour old DnD books to find shit to be angry about? And how does this woke bootlicker plan on 'fixing' this? This book is 4 years old now. I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes from this because words are cheap. He basically can say 'We'll do something' and then not do anything but at least he confirmed their stupid shit complaint?

The entire spergout over her hiding her fake leg is just the most butthurt screaming. 'BEING DISABLED ISN'T BEING WEAK REEEEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ASHAMED' Uh, newsflash, missing limbs inherently does make you a worse fighter and weaker by definition. And apparrently having a character with a complex feeling who 'hides' it (for tactical reasons I thought) is BAD REPRESENTATION and internalized ableism. Complexity isn't allowed anymore. Everyone must be paragons of beige milquetoast flavouring.

...I think I'm done with DnD if they sincerely change this and act like spineless losers over orcs and crippled NPCs. I hope WotC collaspes under the weight of trying to appeal to woke rëtards honestly.
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So... what am I supposed to be mad at now? I'm sorry, but this is the second time in a row in this thread that I had to ask about what stupid thing a person who doesn't play the game said and did.

Something something about how dare cripples can't do everything from what I can tell by context. It's kind of a no shit, and you'd need some magic to actually fix that shit. Actually, you can just use regenerate usually.

It's dumb, but this cunt just wants attention anyway.

ADDENDUM: Ah, it's a literal whodat who wants attention over a minor character not getting their limb just grown back and is just ree'ing for attention and got ratio'd. Okay. So it's like Ork mong.
 
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Adamska said:
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So... what am I supposed to be mad at now? I'm sorry, but this is the second time in a row in this thread that I had to ask about what stupid thing a person who doesn't play the game said and did.

Something something about how dare cripples can't do everything from what I can tell by context. It's kind of a no shit, and you'd need some magic to actually fix that shit. Actually, you can just use regenerate usually.

It's dumb, but this cunt just wants attention anyway.

ADDENDUM: Ah, it's a literal whodat who wants attention over a minor character not getting their limb just grown back and is just ree'ing for attention and got ratio'd. Okay. So it's like Ork mong.
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I imagine they'd consider regeneration of limbs ableist and erasure, too. There's a wheely wheely no legs feely wizard in Dragonheist supplement which I find mind boggling. ...nigga they got MAGIC. There's no way they'd been in 'wheelchair' when floating disc exists as a spell.

I would just ignore these fuckers on principal but when actual writers in WoTC are capitulating to this shit and admitting they're 'wrong' for putting a complex character with a fake leg who hides it, then I'm getting a little ticked off.
 
Titan Lithos said:
So, is "Fifth Edition" now a marketing gimmick?
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No, it's not. Last I checked, and I'm getting pretty old here, but 5 comes after 4 so a 5th edition is certainty when it comes to any older tabletop or even miniature game.

Also, Modiphius works on some great RPG's. However if you get too many people from different companies working on a single product there's going to be conflict of interests.
 
knightlautrec said:
I imagine they'd consider regeneration of limbs ableist and erasure, too. There's a wheely wheely no legs feely wizard in Dragonheist supplement which I find mind boggling. ...nigga they got MAGIC. There's no way they'd been in 'wheelchair' when floating disc exists as a spell.

I would just ignore these fuckers on principal but when actual writers in WoTC are capitulating to this shit and admitting they're 'wrong' for putting a complex character with a fake leg who hides it, then I'm getting a little ticked off.
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A 13th level Cleric, Bard, or Druid can casually unfuck being crippled by limb loss with a single spell. It literally just takes a couple minutes. Not as dumb as the troon obsession since the magic to regrow a limb is a higher level than flipping gender, but easily fixable for any party in the mid-game.
 
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You could make a wood and metal prosthetic and call it a day if the world has little to no magic. Instead of capitulating to mentally broken spastics, how about you release some new official and quality content so 5e doesn't feel so anemic to people from pre-4th edition D&D and 1st edition Pathfinder.
 
REGENDarySumanai said:
You could make a wood and metal prosthetic and call it a day if the world has little to no magic. Instead of capitulating to mentally broken spastics, how about you release some new official and quality content so 5e doesn't feel so anemic to people from pre-4th edition D&D and 1st edition Pathfinder.
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Magic limbs as a stopgap would work too, just price them around 1k-4k gold. They give the function of the limb, but maybe have a check penalty and max dex like armor that gets lower the better you get.

Seriously, disability is fixable in high magic. Same with troons.
 
Apparently Mike Mearls (of the "rules are gatekeeping women out" tweet) is ousted from position of the D&D head honcho because he didn't sufficiently kowtow to the Twitter mob when they came for that Zak Sabbath guy. Some other guy who I've never heard of is taking his place, Ray Winniniger. He apparently worked on TORG, which at least is a solid game, but I doubt this is signaling any movement for D&D away from getting woke, given the stance of Wizards of the Coast in general.
 
robobobo said:
Apparently Mike Mearls (of the "rules are gatekeeping women out" tweet) is ousted from position of the D&D head honcho because he didn't sufficiently kowtow to the Twitter mob when they came for that Zak Sabbath guy. Some other guy who I've never heard of is taking his place, Ray Winniniger. He apparently worked on TORG, which at least is a solid game, but I doubt this is signaling any movement for D&D away from getting woke, given the stance of Wizards of the Coast in general.
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D&D was never the pinnacle of game or setting design in the first place. Not a big loss
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Admittedly, you don't need high magic to take care of troons, a couple pitchforks, torches and a pile of wood will do the trick just as well.
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Oh I mean being a troon or trans won't work in a setting where you can fix that by level 5 - 7. Magic solves a lot of arbitrary issues mandated by these baby brains.
 
knightlautrec said:
What the actual fuck is happening with DnD atm with this orc shit and now this:

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Has this self isolation brought out all the rëtards who have nothing better to do than scour old DnD books to find shit to be angry about? And how does this woke bootlicker plan on 'fixing' this? This book is 4 years old now. I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes from this because words are cheap. He basically can say 'We'll do something' and then not do anything but at least he confirmed their stupid shit complaint?

The entire spergout over her hiding her fake leg is just the most butthurt screaming. 'BEING DISABLED ISN'T BEING WEAK REEEEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ASHAMED' Uh, newsflash, missing limbs inherently does make you a worse fighter and weaker by definition. And apparrently having a character with a complex feeling who 'hides' it (for tactical reasons I thought) is BAD REPRESENTATION and internalized ableism. Complexity isn't allowed anymore. Everyone must be paragons of beige milquetoast flavouring.

...I think I'm done with DnD if they sincerely change this and act like spineless losers over orcs and crippled NPCs. I hope WotC collaspes under the weight of trying to appeal to woke rëtards honestly.
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It became mainstream-but-not-too-mainstream-because-I'm-not-a-neckbeard, so the woke hipsters latched onto DND and proceeded to ruin it from the inside, like everything else they "enjoy". Luckily they've seemed reluctant to branch out into any other tabletop RPG so all they can do is complain about old source material they literally do not have to look at.
 
The origional poster is pretty bog stand sjw of rpg subtype-defines herself by disbilities, shills herself as an advocate for it in roleplay without questioning if such a thing is needed or if she's qualified to do so. No actual actual description of a person in her description, just her prefered pronouns.

Although she's a BA english lit graduate at a university ranked 129 in the UK which fills in a lot of blanks.


Imagine being able to play any sort of person you wish, any form you like and you choose to keep your disbility but don't want any of the issues with it, not only that but you presume to speak for other disabled people, the fucking balls.
 
Pond Scum said:
It became mainstream-but-not-too-mainstream-because-I'm-not-a-neckbeard, so the woke hipsters latched onto DND and proceeded to ruin it from the inside, like everything else they "enjoy". Luckily they've seemed reluctant to branch out into any other tabletop RPG so all they can do is complain about old source material they literally do not have to look at.
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Wokesters tried to briefly glom on to Call of Cthulhu and deem the madness and sanity mechanic 'offensive' to mentally ill people but A) most CoC creators don't give a fuck and B) if they knew anything about cosmic horror then they'd realise Lovecraft madness isn't about making 'light' of actual mental issues - it's about the character's reaching the edges of reality and understanding and being horrified by what they find there. Their minds literally cannot comprehend the peeled back layers of what the truth is of the universe and they're driven to madness.

It's not making fun of mentally rëtarded people but I will make fun of people who think sanity as a game mechanic is 'problematic' because they are the truly the most rëtarded of us all.
 
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knightlautrec said:
Wokesters tried to briefly glom on to Call ofCthulhu and deem the madness and sanity mechanic 'offensive' to mentally ill people but A) most CoC creators don't give a fuck and B) if they knew anything about cosmic horror then they'd realise Lovecraft madness isn't about making 'light' of actually mental issues - it's about the character's reaching the edges of reality and understanding and being horrified by what they find there. Their minds literally cannot comprehend the peeled back layers of what the truth is of the universe and they're driven to madness.

It's not making fun of mentally rëtarded people but I will make fun of people who think sanity as a game mechanic is 'problematic' because they are the truly the most rëtarded of us all.
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One the games, I can't for the life of me remember which, replaced insanity mechanics with 'corruption'. Ironiclly this is more problematic for a number of reasons. Also doing lovecraft without mental illness is like doing vampires without blood, if it's that much of an issue for you-what the fuck are you doing playing it?

EDIT-it's Elderitch skiesand it accidently implies that insanity is a spiritual corruption.
 
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So me, my fiancee and my brothers get together to play rifts once a week. I know it's the second most autistic tabletop but it's heavily homebrewed and pretty fun because of it. My brother was playing a spell thief that could unravel magic and, whilst investigating a pile of seemingly ethereal gold in a peasants basement, he got turned into some form of magic energy. We don't know exactly what happened but after that he tried to unravel himself to undo that spell and unraveled his soul... He's making a new character between games.
 
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