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Adamska said:
So it's Pun-Pun level intentional misreading then. You're defending Pun-Pun level misreading.
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I have no clue what a "Pun-Pun" is and it is not "intentional misreading" of the rules. From a technical point of view, what I wrote is what the rules allow you to create - only if you want to be able to do this at the very start, you'd have to minmax a lot, that's all. At no point do you apply rules in a shady way or have to bend them even the slightest. Whether a DM allows it or not is, as usual, a different kind of deal.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
I have no clue what a "Pun-Pun" is and it is not "intentional misreading" of the rules. From a technical point of view, what I wrote is what the rules allow you to create - only if you want to be able to do this at the very start, you'd have to minmax a lot, that's all. At no point do you apply rules in a shady way or have to bend them even the slightest. Whether a DM allows it or not is, as usual, a different kind of deal.
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Yeah... Pun-Pun is also a RAW (rules as written) build, but no DM ever would allow him due to the cheese and intentional misreading involved. Or this for that matter.

RAI (rules as intended) always trumps RAW.
 
Adamska said:
Yeah... Pun-Pun is also a RAW (rules as written) build, but no DM ever would allow him due to the cheese and intentional misreading involved. Or this for that matter.

RAI (rules as intended) always trumps RAW.
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What part of "there is no intentional misreading of the rules involved" do you not understand?
It's a silly gimmicky build that no one would ever consider playing cause it's utterly useless and only interesting as an exercise in entirely "legal" min-maxing.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
What part of "there is no intentional misreading of the rules involved" do you not understand?
It's a silly gimmicky build that no one would ever consider playing cause it's utterly useless and only interesting as an exercise in entirely "legal" min-maxing.
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I'd use it in Pathfinder, but Paizo was smart enough to not do the same mistakes WotC did with spells. Best I can do to wipe out a city is to use a contagion bomb on a child and then wait it out. Usually I have to string several spells together to do some awesome damage, or see if we're playing a Mythic campaign as Mythic rules were too broken and play a ranger so I could just solo the whole campaign and have the other players there as moral support.

Should be noted that Locate City never made it into the Spell Compendium or the Premium Edition of the Spell Compendium, it's like they knew they messed up and never reprinted it. Pathfinder's version of the spell allows the caster to personally find a settlement or someone they touch, and it's a level 6 spell too.

Also, I'm not mis-reading the feats or Locate City. 3.x was terrible when it came to feats and spells. Their monsters were even worse and their classes were boring. So far the only Dungeons and Dragons game worth playing is AD&D since you don't have such a problem with min-maxing shit due to save or die encounters.
 
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Anonymus Fluhre said:
Also, I'm not mis-reading the feats or Locate City. 3.x was terrible when it came to feats and spells. Their monsters were even worse and their classes were boring. So far the only Dungeons and Dragons game worth playing is AD&D since you don't have such a problem with min-maxing shit due to save or die encounters.
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Nah, we all know the best version of D&D is 4e, because it successfully balances martials and magic-users, removes the dependence on a healbot cleric, and makes gameplay dependent on rationing powers and careful usage, instead of spamming munchkin’d spells. You know I’m right.
 
Ruling by RAI and RAW both have their own problems TBH.

If we're being honest, the Locate City Bomb is a nice bit of fun but I doubt anyone would use it in a campaign, even though you could.

Unless you were some sort of troll I suppose.
 
I'm now considering the level of dickishness of a gnome high illusionist 30/shadowcrafter 10/geometer 5/shadowcraft mage 5. Clearly, it's a probable way to jerk yourself raw with illusions, but if you don't want to deal with broken spellcasters and shitty martials, then just don't play D&D.
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Randall Fragg said:
Nah, we all know the best version of D&D is 4e, because it successfully balances martials and magic-users, removes the dependence on a healbot cleric, and makes gameplay dependent on rationing powers and careful usage, instead of spamming munchkin’d spells. You know I’m right.
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I enjoyed playing a tabletop MMORPG. However DM's couldn't do boss battles right so groups would get garbage for loot. Sometimes literal garbage.

Sable said:
Ruling by RAI and RAW both have their own problems TBH.

If we're being honest, the Locate City Bomb is a nice bit of fun but I doubt anyone would use it in a campaign, even though you could.

Unless you were some sort of troll I suppose.
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I do that sort of thing when I'm in a bad group...So like 4/5's of my games.
 
So I guess the Critical Roll crew raised a few million on Kickstarter for a movie and woke indy game dev twitter is pissed.
 
BlueArmedDevil said:
So I guess the Critical Roll crew raised a few million on Kickstarter for a movie and woke indy game dev twitter is pissed.
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I guess they are pissed that sitting on your ass all day, tweeting "FUCK DRUUUUMPF ALSO I AM A TRANSBIOLOGICAL SELF IDENTIFIED POTPLANTKIN ADIPOSITIVE COLLEGE DROPOUT, PAY FOR MY THINGS!" isn't getting them the dedicated fanbase to collect millions of dollars within hours.
 
Randall Fragg said:
Nah, we all know the best version of D&D is 4e, because it successfully balances martials and magic-users, removes the dependence on a healbot cleric, and makes gameplay dependent on rationing powers and careful usage, instead of spamming munchkin’d spells. You know I’m right.
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The best version of D&D is GURPS
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Oh, how did that go?
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Pretty good so far, I originally got her started on Mermaid Adventures so getting her to understand dice rolls wasn't too hard. Since you really don't need to do a lot of counting in FATE games it's easy for a child to get into and it's better than just telling a story to them at night as they can actually participate in it. Only thing I really had to do was make 1 on 1 adventures as the game requires you to have at least three players instead.
 
So the campaign I am in started off as a success. Black Star, Black Powder, two Chinese people, and many others fought off a monster at a children's hospital and managed to defeat it and hang out with two of the most famous superheroes in the world.
 
Here's another episode of reading through Sigmata's hideously floppy crunch:
 
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