Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[Hummingbird]

I said this once, and I'll not only say it again, but expound upon it.

David Hill is a pretentious and talentless SJW hack who would never know fun even if it bit him in the ass and I would not have sex with him. Or play his shitty SJW "post-fantasy" game.

Fuck him.

Imagine the SJW mess that could be created if him and Anna Kreider teamed up.

 

[ActualKiwi]

Like all Machine Age Productions, Farewell to Fear will be released as a Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike/Noncommercial license. Gaming's a community. We want to foster this.

You heard it from Hill kids, pirate that shit away.

So, Play-By-Post Teardown of this train wreck when?

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

So a wizard has a key to his or her own magical safe space?

 

[Adamska]

That Kickstarter is from 2012, the game is already released. It's $5 at drivetrurpg, not that anyone could play it. You need the character class sheets from their defunct website to generate a character. Their reasoning:

Oh wow, Hill actually made it unplayable through sheer ineptitude by not making the sheets freely available. Does that mean he's actually more inept than the perverted and horrible morons behind FATAL? Because you can actually play that.

 

[Hummingbird]

For anyone who is curious, you can find Farewell to Fear here (they even give you a full, several page preview).

Sometimes I like to go to the FATAL and Friends site and they had a look over Beast: The Primordial's latest book and it looks like the creative team learned nothing. Honestly, when some of the villains (called Heroes) are more sympathetic and likable than the protagonists we're supposed to see as the good guys, you might want to rethink some things.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I recently began re-reading the 1996 White Wolf classic Vampire: The Dark Ages and I really want to play a game of it. Or run one for that matter.

I'm cool with using either Vampire: The Dark Ages or the later Dark Ages: Vampire, but I have no real interest in using the V20 version of Dark Ages since I do not own it and I've heard it's been bogged down by some of Onyx Path's SJW nonsense.

That being said, the original 20th Anniversary Edition of Vampire: The Masquerade is pretty cool, as is Werewolf 20th Anniversary Edition. They dropped the ball with Mage 20 and I'm not really interested in Wraith.

I might check out Changeling 20. Maybe.

 

[Techpriest]

Changeling 20 is pretty good, and what you heard about SJW bullshit in V20 Dark Ages is bullshit. Most of the time, the SJW bull doesn't make it through (and if it does it's eye rolling throwaway lines like in Secrets of the Covenant's Carthian section) and they've concentrated it into a single gameline at this point (Beast).

Also David Hill was one of the lead designers for Changeling 2e until he quit back in March because of Zac Smith getting hired by White Wolf. Since then, everything has been looking a lot better - a small dev team has been working on it, including Bailey (who has been with the company for quite a while and was one of the lead designers for Vampire: The Requiem 2e) and he's still mega salty about his 'baby' no longer being under his control despite the fact that he quit on his own. Why the hell they ever let him do design for Changeling is baffling to me (Considering he's partly responsible for the terrible Shadowrun sourcebook War!) and probably because he was able to schmooze one of the higher ups by saying "well I'm an independent developer too" and they took his word for it.

The thing to remember about White Wolf/Onyx Path is that they genuinely do have a few SJW's and the like on the team, but they're starting to swap over to different freelancers and relegate them to non-important tasks.

EDIT: Also if you want the books, just PM me. I can drop box them for you.

 

[Adamska]

Addendum to the roasting of Hill the Hack's non-game: I forgot to pour acid salt all over this fraud's stretch goals:

The "I want to get updates and maybe pledge more later" level. You get to get updates, and maybe pledge more later! You also get the satisfaction of a job well done. And our thanks.

For one dollar, all you get is told when it's coming out and are guilted into giving more money to a hack writer who couldn't cut it in real people companies. Isn't that worth it?

Ethereal Level: Here, you get the PDF version of the game. You'll also be credited in the final product. If you include another $10, you'll get Foie Gras to Fear in PDF.

If you pay about the price of a McDonald's meal, you get his PDF file even though that would be pirateable by the end of the week due to his IP being piss weak in terms of projection. For the price of a Denny's meal, you get his abortion of a cookbook that mocks his game ideas too.

Golden Level: Here, you get the physical book. It'll be 7 x 10", hardcover, B&W. You also receive the PDF. You'll also receive a key. You'll get the PDF of Foie Gras to Fear. Lastly, you'll get the exclusive Farewell to Fear Guestbook sheet. Shipping is free within the US. Please include $5 for international shipping. You'll also be credited in the final product.

For 35 dollarydoos, you get the actual book and a rusty key. It seems that the book only cost 15 bucks to make, though most homebrewers will do this for free.

Book and a Book Level?: This gets you Farewell to Fear, and Foie Gras to Fear. You also get the Guestbook sheet. But no fancypants map. For people just interested in the barebones stuff.

So for 55 bucks, you get only physical versions of the books, and this stupid asshole thinks that barebones is including these two. Sounds to me like you might actually need both to run a game if that's the case, which is more inept than any other developer ever.

Silver Level: Here, you get the physical book, as above. As well, you get the PDF, a key, and you get an exclusive cloth map of our game world. Think similar to classic video game RPGs, like Ultima and Dragon Warrior. You'll get the PDF of Foie Gras to Fear. You'll get the exclusive Guestbook. You'll also be credited in the final product.

Look at this shit. Hill the hack thinks that getting the pdf version of this book and that dumb splatbook with a rusty key and shitty dishrag map is ten bucks more than the other thing at$65... unless he meant that the splatbook is PDF only in all cases.

Inkeeper Level (for retail): This level is designed for retailers. You can buy five copies at about half price (accounting for shipping). We're suggesting (and marking) sale for $29.99. If you want more copies, simply increase your pledge by $15 per.
Shipping's included in the US. Connect with me for international shipping.

He now assumes that stores will gib money so they can stack like five of these awful awful books for 80 buckaroos. And to make it a scheme, you simply add more and more money to get them. The worst part is two idiots backed this level.

Bronze Level: You get the physical book. The PDF. You get a key. You get an exclusive cloth map. You'll get our exclusive Guestbook.

You also get a print copy of our first supplement, tentatively titled "Foie Gras to Fear." It's half gaming supplement, half cook book. It addresses some of the interesting things the people of Arduise could do with food, and gives advice for how to enhance your game by bringing food to the table. It also offers an exclusive character class for a wandering chef.

Notice that for 20 more bucks, you get the shitty book in print form. Reckon that means that the 55 version is still just PDFs. What a joke.

Cited Level: You get the whole Farewell to Fear package, books, pdfs, key, map. As well, you're credited in the book as an in-character source. The whole book is made up of research from fictitious sources. You can be the author, or the character you name. Your copy of Farewell to Fear is signed.

If you pay the price of my winter electric bill and more, you get your name in the book. It's so sickeningly sweet I'm going to die of anti-freeze poisoning.

Grounded Level: You get the whole Farewell to Fear package. Physical book, physical supplement. Key. Map. As well, you'll get a custom location PDF. The game has four main cities. There are countless villages on the outskirts, as well as caves, dungeons, and all that, which we haven't completely fleshed out. You give me the basics for a location, and I will design it and publish it in PDF. In essence, you'll have your very own place for adventure in the Farewell to Fear world. It's yours. You can put it on your website. You can trade it. You can hoard it. Your copy of Farewell to Fear is signed.

For half of my family's food bill, you can make up a single canon dungeon. Y'know, something that a fucking DM does all the time for free.

The Dragon's Hoard: You get Farewell to Fear. You get a key. You get Foie Gras to Fear. You get the cloth map. You get our neato Guestbook. You get all our other games, too. This includes Flatpack: Fix the Future, Amaranthine, Maschine Zeit, a series of Guestbook, and a bonus that I'm going to leave a secret. You also get everything in PDF, including some of our others like Kicking Historical Asses. Talk to me about international shipping. Domestic's included. We sign your copies.

For 200 dollars, you get what should have been the 150/100 dollar deal, since for that much money you fucking deserve all the failed projects this moron never succeeded in.

Heroic Level: You get the whole Farewell to Fear package. Physical book, physical supplement. Key. Map. Plus, we'll get you dinner if we're at a convention together, or if you're in the SoCal area. We'll sign your stuff.

So... for 250 dollars. For something that is about 1/4-1/5 of your rent or mortgage, you get a worse offer. You do not get the ability to name a place, or be a part of the book due to Hill's shitastic prose. You only get a promise for dinner... if he's in the area. I have no words, only screams now. Record them for me.

ron Level: Farewell to Fear. Foie Gras to Fear. Key. Map. You get a Machine Age game. It'll be a short (look to Kicking Historical Asses for a reference point). You give me the specs or the pitch, I'll make it work. I'll release it Creative Commons on the net, and I'll credit you as the patron and co-developer. You'll get five signed print copies. The delivery date would be for the custom game. You'd get everything else on normal schedule. We'll sign all that.

Well shit, this isn't the worst thing in the world... if it was made by someone who knew how to write well and who didn't charge 500 bucks for something fans have done for free. One person did pledge for this, so did Hill nut up and actually do this for them?

Steel Level: Farewell to Fear. Foie Gras to Fear. Key. Map. Your own game. All the awesome. And I'll deliver your books to you, and run a game for you and your troupe. I'll run your custom game. Farewell to Fear. Maschine Zeit. FATE. Leverage. World of Darkness. Whatever you want. This means in the US, for logistical reasons. If you really want to do international, let me know. The delivery date would be for the custom game. You'd get everything else on normal schedule. Copies are signed. We'll even see to it you get five copies of Farewell to Fear.

For 1k in Buku Bucks, you can get Hill to creepily run this game for you himself. Being an unfun fate worse than death, I thank St. Cuthbert no one actually took him up on this offer.

 

[Wallace]

It's like he considers himself to be some kind of celebrity, that people would pay for those higher-tier "rewards".

Eh, it's Kickstarter. They don't exactly have a stellar fulfillment rate anyways. Even money says it never sees the light of day.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

So I'm thinking about doing a Pathfinder game over Discord in the next month or so. I've been going through all the material I have to see what will and will not be allowed in the campaign. I'll probably base it off an AP or large campaign book to see how the group works together before doing a homebrew with them.

Need to figure out a day that wont conflict with any other game going on with members of the Farms.

 

[Randall Fragg]

So I'm thinking about doing a Pathfinder game over Discord in the next month or so. I've been going through all the material I have to see what will and will not be allowed in the campaign. I'll probably base it off an AP or large campaign book to see how the group works together before doing a homebrew with them.

Need to figure out a day that wont conflict with any other game going on with members of the Farms.

As much as I'd love to go through something like Rise of the Runelords (Ogre Chainsaw Massacre ftw), I'm pretty much booked for the next few months.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

As much as I'd love to go through something like Rise of the Runelords (Ogre Chainsaw Massacre ftw), I'm pretty much booked for the next few months.

Ever try the 3.5 version of that campaign? First AP boss is a bitch for low levels to kill.

I recently began re-reading the 1996 White Wolf classic Vampire: The Dark Ages and I really want to play a game of it. Or run one for that matter.

I'm cool with using either Vampire: The Dark Ages or the later Dark Ages: Vampire, but I have no real interest in using the V20 version of Dark Ages since I do not own it and I've heard it's been bogged down by some of Onyx Path's SJW nonsense.

That being said, the original 20th Anniversary Edition of Vampire: The Masquerade is pretty cool, as is Werewolf 20th Anniversary Edition. They dropped the ball with Mage 20 and I'm not really interested in Wraith.

I might check out Changeling 20. Maybe.

Changeling 20th Anniversary wasn't bad, I hate the cover and page borders.

 

[Sable]

So I've decided to read through a bunch of 3.5 stuff because there might be a game with it though probably not.

It's actually pretty interesting, but considering I was horribly useless when I last played 3.5 this all seems new and strange, it's like you're in a haunted house and halfway through you realise it's a copy of your house, to use a really autistic metaphor.

Anyone else looking forward to Starfinder at all?

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

So I've decided to read through a bunch of 3.5 stuff because there might be a game with it though probably not.

It's actually pretty interesting, but considering I was horribly useless when I last played 3.5 this all seems new and strange, it's like you're in a haunted house and halfway through you realise it's a copy of your house, to use a really autistic metaphor.

Anyone else looking forward to Starfinder at all?

Got the free book that was released, waiting for the Starfinder stuff next month to hopefully start a campaign one day.

 

[Randall Fragg]

Got the free book that was released, waiting for the Starfinder stuff next month to hopefully start a campaign one day.

Wait, free book that was released?

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Wait, free book that was released?

Starfinder: First Contact was released, it's a free book to see what the new IP will be like. It's 20 pages.

 

[Hummingbird]

My gaming group is starting off on the right foot. Though they threw a curveball and I had to make some quick plot changes, but I like a challenge. If you're interested, here's a little on how my Vampire: The Masquerade game is going...

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  Spoiler: Highlights

  [*]I'm running the adventure, Ashes to Ashes, and my attempt to play on the mystery and who-can-you-trust angle worked a little too well and they believe that the higher-ups want to kill them (they don't) and decided to bail on the chance to meet the guy who would set them up with the fake Prince so I couldn't run that scenario and had to find a different way to get them involved in looking for the missing real one. Oh well, it turned out well.
  
  [*]I love my two PCs and their players. They're like a platonic, bickering couple who know they are stuck with each other and they end up being unintentionally funny in a good way.
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  [*]It's good to have players that are not easily offended. I had a scene where the local Vampire sheriff who is pretty much the epitome of every southern, arrogant bully-boy lawman stereotype, is harassing a local rebel meeting and the leader (an undead, black 14-year-old) named Damien. Damien mentions how the sheriff likes seven year old boys who call him daddy and he yells back, "Do I look like some kind of rinky-dinky homo-faggot?". The line just came out of my mouth and I looked to the players, wondering if I went too far and not only did they not mind, one of them laughed and said she liked that line.
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  [*]Knowing that the PCs are in the same restaurant as him and one of them wanted a plate of fries, Ballard (a 600 lbs, capitalist pig Vampire) decided to tripple their order out of his own pocket, invite himself over to give them an offer they can't refuse and made sure the fries were smothered with gourmet dipping sauces, including blood (which they didn't know was his own). Just to unnerve them even more, he was shoveling handfuls of fries down his gullet as they ate. (I have a new rule where Vampires can eat, but they will have to throw it up about an hour later.)
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  [*]I had this kid bother one of them (the male Ventrue) with a his great conspiracy of sneaking candy bars out of a gas station. He tried to threaten the tyke by telling him the only thing he eats is kids and after botching the roll, the brat just busts up laughing at his face.

 

[Surtur]

Running campaign with a few Kiwis and some IRL friends (a mix I am certain I will not come to regret) and our party includes Mighty Mouse, a racist bard, an evil Corgi and a barbarian so jacked it hinders his ability to move. This is going to work so well.

 

[Sable]

Of course there's a Corgi.

 

[Surtur]

Of course there's a Corgi.

ALWAYS A CORGI