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from the nearly released osr cyberpunk thing Cities Without Number
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That's actually a refreshing take on it, because it lays bare that this shit truly only exists to turn us into corporate fodder. It's dripping with cynicism and I'm here for it.
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Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case in W5 at this point; Pentex putting gay shit out just for the sake of trolling the
I do find it funny how Pentex has more in common with "current year" devs and shit than the "evil greedy right-wing fascists" that the writers try to portray them as. Constantly trying to corrupt everything and all that, plus with how the fags really seem to think that becoming a corporate drone for the sake of "muh dieversity" is really great... while simultaneously trying to pull a doublethink and state that the political right are the "greedy, freedom-hating bad guys". It does make me wonder how they're going to try and handle them in W5, though. Not like anyone really knows at this point; everyone seems to be obsessed with "Gets = Nazis" and "old fans are evil, current year fans are good" and shit like that: https://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum...1518037-explanation-why-fenrir-were-cut/page4
Yeah, like @Corn Flakes said; this is a pretty solid look at how gendercult shit is designed to make everyone into drones.
Henri Barbusse
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In terms of Pentex, I can't wait how Black Dog Games Factory is presented. Since I can't imagine current White Wolf devs poking the gentlest fun at themselves, I'm guessing it will be 100% serious and cater to what White Wolf thinks is their old fans obsessed with racism. (As a side note, Werewolf 20th Anniversary cutting out King's Breweries from its Pentex book was a travesty.)
I looked at Something Awful which should be current White Wolf's audience, but even they hate the Get changes. Because they do correctly point out that if tribes are no longer tied to nationalities, then that should also apply to Get and that it's insulting to say that all Germans are Nazis. They also noticed that if Black Furies are no longer Greek and now accept all genders then there's no reason for their existence. Basically, it seems like literally no one thinks W5 is going to be any good, except for discord sycophants.
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I was all set to rage but that's actually the most cyberpunk way to handle that. Its only missing a pronoun generator. Also as an Attack Helicopter (Apache/Apacheself) I find the lack of missile racks and blue-force tracking as gender expressions triggering and othering.
I love the fluff talks about people getting fucked when their gender subscriptions end because the corpos drop support.
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As soon as humanity has the technology to completely swap around their bodies, I have no doubt there's all sorts of freaky shit that's gonna go on, so sci-fi settings having people running around with dicknipples doesn't particularly rock my boat. Corporations using body mods/cyberware to keep their customers on the hook forever also makes perfect sense to me; they would absolutely pull that shit. I'd suspect that for Cyberpunk or Shadowrun or whatever, the implants characters get are definitely jailbroken grey-market stuff, while going into the mall and buying an arm off the shelf gets you a load of lifetime subscription fees and spyware.
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To @Henri Barbusse; you bring up a number of good points. I completely forgot about Black Dog games; that's another bit that W5 is probably going to completely shit all over, since the writers are all idiots. I think the idea that Black Dog being an attack on their older fans makes perfect sense; wouldn't put it past them to follow in WotC's footsteps and mock their fans.
Also, interesting bit on Something Awful; like they said, the removal of the border and gender restrictions means that, logically, the Gets should have gone down the same route, and yet they didn't, instead keeping their nationality and history... and all getting labelled as Nazis,which says an awful lot about how the devs think about Germans. Likewise, the identities of numerous other Garou groups - the Wendigo, the Red Talons, the Ukteka, the Black Furies, etc. - were all intricately tied to certain races, countries, and in the case of the Black Furies, women, and yet the removal of these restrictions means that none of these groups should logically exist anymore.
It all sounds like the current writers are basically just keeping the names and such for brand recognition, like what they did with Hunter 5th and certain things such as the Edges but gutting everything in favor of making everything into a same-y, shitty sludge that appeals to no one except the snowflakes. Essentially, it's the retard version of Werewolf.
Yeah, I'd say that this is probably the most interesting depiction of gendercult stuff in cyberpunk I've seen yet; the troons want to rely so much on corps and think that, since the corps clearly support trooning out then they MUST be their allies... only to get completely fucked once the money runs out and the corps promptly leave them to rot on the streets.
It's an interesting and refreshing take, I agree; looking forward to where the game goes in the future!
Also, interesting bit on Something Awful; like they said, the removal of the border and gender restrictions means that, logically, the Gets should have gone down the same route, and yet they didn't, instead keeping their nationality and history... and all getting labelled as Nazis,
It all sounds like the current writers are basically just keeping the names and such for brand recognition, like what they did with Hunter 5th and certain things such as the Edges but gutting everything in favor of making everything into a same-y, shitty sludge that appeals to no one except the snowflakes. Essentially, it's the retard version of Werewolf.
Yeah, I'd say that this is probably the most interesting depiction of gendercult stuff in cyberpunk I've seen yet; the troons want to rely so much on corps and think that, since the corps clearly support trooning out then they MUST be their allies... only to get completely fucked once the money runs out and the corps promptly leave them to rot on the streets.
It's an interesting and refreshing take, I agree; looking forward to where the game goes in the future!
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Honestly I feel like weird gender shit will dissipate the second that functional body modification becomes viable. A lot of these people will just wire themselves up with a coom button and then die of starvation a few weeks later, whereas others will channel their autism and dysphorias into turning into Blade Wolf.
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No, its like deaf people. There are a lot of deaf people who could be cured but refuse because "Being deaf" is their identity. They try to maximize the odds of their children being deaf. There are a significant number of trannies where "being a tranny" is their whole identity and existence. They don't want to be women, they want to be trannies with beards and tiny cocks and male pattern baldness and force everyone to play whatever pretend they feel like playing that moment, and any attempt to undermine that is literally genocide.
Well, you might be right about the coom button part. I'm pretty sure once the coom button becomes socially acceptable its going to all over in general. Which I think is what a lot of cyberpunk misses out on.
Tranny shit is money for medical & pharmas. You are a paypig for horsepiss for life. They can change their mind after a coupel years but once they take the balls they're going to be taking some sort of hormone cocktail until they die. If you are only looking at a corporate balance sheet, its amazing - lifetime customers.
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Funny thing about Werewolf, putting out a shitty vaccine that messes people up is precisely a thing that Pentex would do. The Wyrm would be jizzing itself over the deal that Pfizer and Moderna got, the opportunity to poison millions with zero legal liabilities, with the governments basically pushing their citizens into the vaccination booths? But you know that the soy crew writing W5 wouldn't touch that with a twenty-foot pole.
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Hey, if my choices are attack helicopter or murderous wolfbot with chainsaw blades, I know what I'm identifying as.
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reminds me of the study where the pharma industry was already rubbing their hands that by 2030 or so the whole field of trooning out people could be worth billions. can't find it a&n anymore....
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Really stupid question right the fuck out of nowhere - I'm actually expecting several Dumb reactions from this - but I was needing to ask you guys about something; basically, for tabletop stuff in general, what do you guys think would be humanity's/"the evil white man's" weaponry of choice would be?
To elaborate: I've noticed how, in various wokeshit tabletop settings, that different groups tend to favor different types of weaponry. For instance, furfags (Hc Svnt Dracones, FAPP, Fursona) usually gravitate towards either anime shit (scythes, dual katanas), or warcrime shit (chemical weapons). Meanwhile, Neopagans (Otherverse: America) tend to use plenty of magic up to and including summoning monsters, tarot readings, and generally spitting in the face of Christians whenever possible. And so on.
Meanwhile, whenever there's a right-wing character in pretty much any game, they... really aren't given much. Seriously, the one weapon type that any right-wing caricature is consistently given is guns, which isn't even a unique choice in the setting most of the time. That's assuming that any potential right-wing characters show up at all; some games like Coyote & Crow have all of the "evil white people" get nuked and trapped in a frozen wasteland for over 500 years while the rest of the world gradually turns into aLovecraftian Cyberpunk Dystopia Utopia.
I bring this up, because several of the people in my crew were wanting some ideas for a few games that we were planning on running; including some WoD stuff and even that remixed version of C&C we were working on a while back. It was going to be a few games with 8 people in them, and we didn't want everyone using guns, fun as though that would have been; we wanted a few options for every situation, instead of "all the guns, all the time". We still have a few recommendations from the old C&C posts; anyone have any others?
To elaborate: I've noticed how, in various wokeshit tabletop settings, that different groups tend to favor different types of weaponry. For instance, furfags (Hc Svnt Dracones, FAPP, Fursona) usually gravitate towards either anime shit (scythes, dual katanas), or warcrime shit (chemical weapons). Meanwhile, Neopagans (Otherverse: America) tend to use plenty of magic up to and including summoning monsters, tarot readings, and generally spitting in the face of Christians whenever possible. And so on.
Meanwhile, whenever there's a right-wing character in pretty much any game, they... really aren't given much. Seriously, the one weapon type that any right-wing caricature is consistently given is guns, which isn't even a unique choice in the setting most of the time. That's assuming that any potential right-wing characters show up at all; some games like Coyote & Crow have all of the "evil white people" get nuked and trapped in a frozen wasteland for over 500 years while the rest of the world gradually turns into a
I bring this up, because several of the people in my crew were wanting some ideas for a few games that we were planning on running; including some WoD stuff and even that remixed version of C&C we were working on a while back. It was going to be a few games with 8 people in them, and we didn't want everyone using guns, fun as though that would have been; we wanted a few options for every situation, instead of "all the guns, all the time". We still have a few recommendations from the old C&C posts; anyone have any others?
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Swords for killing peasants, mancatchers/bolas/nets for capturing slaves, and whips for keeping them in line.
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Small pox blankets and whiskey.
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Swords for melee. Either longswords/arming swords if the chud in question is more of a Crusader, or sabers if we're going with Conquistadors. For ranged, either crossbows or single-shot/early semi-auto rifles. Oh, and anything with a toggle-lock system. The more German-looking, the chuddiest.
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Oh man, a German toggle-lock weapon...
For melee weapons, halberds and other axe-style hacking polearms. Not exactly a ten-foot pole, but a six foot one is a nice compromise. As a formation weapon it relies upon the white man's uniformity, as a mostly defensive weapon his inexorable, unstoppable approach as he grinds you down, and its pragmatism and simplicity his uncaring brutalism and lack of imagination.
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What bothers me about this is that pandering to chuds or commies is bad. Of the two, this is the most cyberpunk way to do it, but it would've been better to just ignore it entirely.
Outside of weaponry, there was a Twitter thread during the early days of AI art that created the nations of the world as villains. Might be worth a look for inspiration.
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Why can't I reply to most of these? Seriously...
@40 Year Old Boomer: The classic "slave-master" loadout. Interesting; kinda surprised I haven't seen more about this in many woke games, tbh.
@Ghostse: Probably should have expected this, what with how much the woke love talking about the "evil colonizers" and such. Still, I have seen "disease" be marked as the "white man's" main weapon of choice in some settings before - apparently all non-white people had perfect health before the white man invented illnesses - so it does fit.
@Corn Flakes; I remember reading on the C&C Discord that, due to the Injuns blowing up Europe, larger weapons such as greatswords were never invented. So, I do think you're on to something here.
Have to say, these guns look great!
I could see these being used; apparently in C&C, the remaining "ytpipeo" are all stuck at medieval tech level at best - according to the retards in charge, at least - so this seems fitting.
I think I might have found some of these on Reddit:
Why the hell is America the Joker? Granted, it's still more creative than Wakanda's "The Colonizer."
@40 Year Old Boomer: The classic "slave-master" loadout. Interesting; kinda surprised I haven't seen more about this in many woke games, tbh.
@Ghostse: Probably should have expected this, what with how much the woke love talking about the "evil colonizers" and such. Still, I have seen "disease" be marked as the "white man's" main weapon of choice in some settings before - apparently all non-white people had perfect health before the white man invented illnesses - so it does fit.
@Corn Flakes; I remember reading on the C&C Discord that, due to the Injuns blowing up Europe, larger weapons such as greatswords were never invented. So, I do think you're on to something here.
Have to say, these guns look great!
I could see these being used; apparently in C&C, the remaining "ytpipeo" are all stuck at medieval tech level at best - according to the retards in charge, at least - so this seems fitting.
I think I might have found some of these on Reddit:
Why the hell is America the Joker? Granted, it's still more creative than Wakanda's "The Colonizer."