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Why do elves have pointy ears?
There has to be some point to them.

Did you hear about the elven noblewoman who put bricks in her bustle?
They call her Lego Lass.

How do you tell if an elf has moved into the neighborhood?
The tree in your yard is pregnant and someone has eaten most of your compost pile.

Why do elves live so long?
Their gods don't like them either.

Why do elves have pointy ears?
Because their god holds them up by the ears before tossing them to Earth.

An elf boy asks his father: Father, how were we named?
The elf man says: We name them after the first thing the father sees. When your sister was born I went outside and named her after the first thing I saw, which was a beautiful sunrise, which is why she is named Morning's Glory. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?

(Sorry, I know, dumb elf racist jokes)
 
Why do elves have pointy ears?
There has to be some point to them.

Did you hear about the elven noblewoman who put bricks in her bustle?
They call her Lego Lass.

How do you tell if an elf has moved into the neighborhood?
The tree in your yard is pregnant and someone has eaten most of your compost pile.

Why do elves live so long?
Their gods don't like them either.

Why do elves have pointy ears?
Because their god holds them up by the ears before tossing them to Earth.

An elf boy asks his father: Father, how were we named?
The elf man says: We name them after the first thing the father sees. When your sister was born I went outside and named her after the first thing I saw, which was a beautiful sunrise, which is why she is named Morning's Glory. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?

(Sorry, I know, dumb elf racist jokes)
These are amazing and will be of great use to me. Thank you sir.
 
playing D&D again with frens again soon. My character is a halfling who experienced head trauma and now insists hes a dwarf. So now he just tries to be racist and fails at it by slurring positive traits about people. like calling an elf a "light foot" Hes so fun to play. One thing I do is reach over to the tabaxi and rip a clump of fur out so I can cast lightning bolt. DM eventually gave the guy a permanent debuf because "now it looks like he has mange" another thing thats fun is laying bear traps down at random. when one finally does go off you feel like fuckin bugs bunny
 
Isn't the gay diverse wizard college Strixhaven? Just call it Dixhaven. But if you really need the Harry Potter reference, just use Nogwarts.
 
Question from someone who likes TTRPGs and runs them for friends but isn't really part of the culture: What is the market like if someone were to hypothetically have written a pretty good fantasy rules system - about 7/10 on the complexity system but elegant and a lot of thought gone into balance - and in tone sort of mid-fantasy. Not quite Warhammer lethality and bittiness, not so abstract as D&D pampering and abstraction. An optional default setting but needing fleshing out for those aspects.

If such a system existed and the creator was willing to put in a little money to market it / get some basic art, could it sell? Or is the market saturated beyond all hope?

Assume the game is not Woke nor pushes any politics! Just fun gritty-heroic fantasy.
There are many authors that make a living catering to their small groups in the manner that you describe. See https://www.drivethrurpg.com/index.php for examples and indesign book templates.

The problem with spin offs is more in the presentation and content breadth than it is market over-saturation. Most books that are not from Wizards are heavy on rules and concepts while lacking art and story telling. It's like McDonalds came along and new restaurants never took up the fast food business model to compete.

To enter this highly competitive space a team needs multiple insertions into the general fantasy market, a target niche, and a wide range of products. Maybe starting from different mediums like videos and video games, and then if successful there migrating the fan base into table top games as Bioware and CD Projeckt Red tried to do.

A novel approach would be starting with a community driven lore/content project a la SPC wiki, which is nothing but world building, then creating products around whatever elements generate the most interest.
 
Why do elves have pointy ears?
There has to be some point to them.

Did you hear about the elven noblewoman who put bricks in her bustle?
They call her Lego Lass.

How do you tell if an elf has moved into the neighborhood?
The tree in your yard is pregnant and someone has eaten most of your compost pile.

Why do elves live so long?
Their gods don't like them either.

Why do elves have pointy ears?
Because their god holds them up by the ears before tossing them to Earth.

An elf boy asks his father: Father, how were we named?
The elf man says: We name them after the first thing the father sees. When your sister was born I went outside and named her after the first thing I saw, which was a beautiful sunrise, which is why she is named Morning's Glory. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?

(Sorry, I know, dumb elf racist jokes)
A dwarf and elf are ordering food
WAITER- And what will you have sir?
DWARF - Steak, rare.
WAITER - And the salad?
DWARF - He'll have a steak too.
 
A dwarf and elf are ordering food
WAITER- And what will you have sir?
DWARF - Steak, rare.
WAITER - And the salad?
DWARF - He'll have a steak too.

Did you mean Fruit?

Elf and a Half-Orc are at a restaurant. The Half-Orc asks for the specials.
Waiter: Our special is steak with your choice of seasonal fruit.
Half-Orc: I'll take that.
Waiter: How would like the steak?
Half-Orc: Rare.
Waiter: Excellen choice. And the fruit?
Half-Orc: He'll have the special too.
 
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Did you mean Fruit?

Elf and a Half-Orc are at a restaurant. The Half-Orc asks for the specials.
Waiter: Our special is steak with your choice of seasonal fruit.
Half-Orc: I'll take that.
Waiter: How would like the steak?
Half-Orc: Rare.
Waiter: Excellen choice. And the fruit?
Half-Orc: He'll have a special too.
Could be. Fruit does have the additional connotation. Been a while since I saw the joke so can't swear to it.
 
Sorry for the minor derail, but I want to vent.

I know "theatre majors" are the favoured target here, but I never had much issue with them. In the group I'm in, by far the worst guy is a self appointed HEMA expert.

Like many players, early in the campaign he was a little salty when the dice didn't go his way. We're now late game. What was a little bit of whining is now lengthy rants about historical inaccuracy, especially when it comes to full plate. "I shouldn't get disadvantage to stealth! Men-at-arms spend years in their armour and would have learned to compensate. How did I take damage from that? I'm in full plate!" etc.

He has never worn armour in real life of course, but he has no shortage of YouTube videos he insists we watch.

It's like that old copy pasta where the weeb complains about katanas not being god tier weapons, but with armour.

And of course, being a fighter that dumped Wisdom and Intelligence, he has strong opinions when it comes to saving against spells.

TL:DR : I'll take a Critical Roll fan over a YouTube history autist.
 
Sorry for the minor derail, but I want to vent.

I know "theatre majors" are the favoured target here, but I never had much issue with them. In the group I'm in, by far the worst guy is a self appointed HEMA expert.

Like many players, early in the campaign he was a little salty when the dice didn't go his way. We're now late game. What was a little bit of whining is now lengthy rants about historical inaccuracy, especially when it comes to full plate. "I shouldn't get disadvantage to stealth! Men-at-arms spend years in their armour and would have learned to compensate. How did I take damage from that? I'm in full plate!" etc.

He has never worn armour in real life of course, but he has no shortage of YouTube videos he insists we watch.

It's like that old copy pasta where the weeb complains about katanas not being god tier weapons, but with armour.

And of course, being a fighter that dumped Wisdom and Intelligence, he has strong opinions when it comes to saving against spells.

TL:DR : I'll take a Critical Roll fan over a YouTube history autist.
The real lesson is: don't play with speds of any stripe. Because spergs will sperg, whether they're all about crunch (munchkins), quirky bullshit (theater majors), or misguided realism in a game about killing dragons with swords (history spergs).
 
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Sorry for the minor derail, but I want to vent.

I know "theatre majors" are the favoured target here, but I never had much issue with them. In the group I'm in, by far the worst guy is a self appointed HEMA expert.

Like many players, early in the campaign he was a little salty when the dice didn't go his way. We're now late game. What was a little bit of whining is now lengthy rants about historical inaccuracy, especially when it comes to full plate. "I shouldn't get disadvantage to stealth! Men-at-arms spend years in their armour and would have learned to compensate. How did I take damage from that? I'm in full plate!" etc.

He has never worn armour in real life of course, but he has no shortage of YouTube videos he insists we watch.

It's like that old copy pasta where the weeb complains about katanas not being god tier weapons, but with armour.

And of course, being a fighter that dumped Wisdom and Intelligence, he has strong opinions when it comes to saving against spells.

TL:DR : I'll take a Critical Roll fan over a YouTube history autist.

The Theater Majors I've encountered are just like that sperg only with feelings instead of spergy youtubes. "It just doesn't fit with a paladin that they'd be disadvantaged on stealth in full plate", "I shouldn't have to roll to seduce because my character's back story", "Enemies shouldn't want to fight me because they know I'm a force for good", "I don't want to actually roll, I just want to say something and have it happen in an interesting manner".

History spergs, I dunno I haven't had an issue with. I tell them they're right, but its a fantasy game and the rules be like that. If they don't stop whining I tell them to Roll Perception... Ok, you are sitting at a table. You look around and find that the door back your car is right over there. In front of you, there's a gamemaster who is sick of this argument for the 10th time, and table full of people playing a game you are ruining because you are arguing the rules instead of playing the game. What do you do?

Cause if we're being fully historically accurate, your character is going to be too tired to move stealthily after about an hour or two, and even uninjured will need a day or two after an extended battle to recover being wrapped in that much weight and insulation. Cause while I do agree D&D's armor rules in any edition past 2nd are bullshit (and 2nd & 1st have their own issues too) with how much they penalize heavy armor for only a few more points of AC, they also don't bring with them some of the worst aspects of full plate, namely the general inability to move much, let alone move 25 feet in 6-10 seconds all day long. Like if we're going for full accuracy, yes you should get some pretty hefty DR, but your speed should about 10 feet and you should need to keep rolling saves against exhaustion.

Anyway, its the horseshoe theory; Like @Corn Flakes says, neither a theater major and realism sperg want to actually play the game, they are both just spergs who just want to indulge their brand of spergery.

You guy doesn't sound like a history sperg though. He sounds like a munchkin trying to use history to justify his munchkinery when it suits him. Cause with History Spergs my experience has always been listen to their complaints, I generally agree with them, but that's not how the rules work and the rules have been made to resemble reality while providing balance for different characters and builds, not slavishly mirror reality. Either they deal with it having accepted they made their views known, or they leave.
 
they also don't bring with them some of the worst aspects of full plate, namely the general inability to move much, let alone move 25 feet in 6-10 seconds all day long. Like if we're going for full accuracy, yes you should get some pretty hefty DR, but your speed should about 10 feet and you should need to keep rolling saves against exhaustion.
That actually came up during one of the arguments and he said that there shouldn't be a mobility/dex penalty. He showed this YouTube video of a guy doing cartwheels and sprinting in full plate.

And when the topic of weight came up, his argument was it shouldn't encumber him in any way because it's evenly distributed.

Because spergs will sperg, whether they're all about crunch (munchkins), quirky bullshit (theater majors), or misguided realism in a game about killing dragons with swords (history spergs).
He sounds like a munchkin trying to use history to justify his munchkinery when it suits him.
I think this is what bothers me the most. He is all multiple bullshit stereotypes in one, and he's not even good at being any of them.
 
The Theater Majors I've encountered are just like that sperg only with feelings instead of spergy youtubes. "It just doesn't fit with a paladin that they'd be disadvantaged on stealth in full plate", "I shouldn't have to roll to seduce because my character's back story", "Enemies shouldn't want to fight me because they know I'm a force for good", "I don't want to actually roll, I just want to say something and have it happen in an interesting manner".
I put the blame for that on the increasing difficulty of killing D&D characters in any reasonable way. When you are all but completely assured by the system that your character is going to survive anything, even the most retarded character concept or "lore-based" action starts sounding reasonable.

I'm not advocating for a return to AD&D's a Save vs. Death behind every blade of grass philosophy, but there's got to be a good middle ground.
 
Ugh I learned my lesson and learned to live with the abstractions of D&D.

If you want something more “realistic” or “immersive” there are other games out there that support that. Some are more spergy than others, some more charming too (I’ll never stop proselytizing about Runequest 6/Mythras heh).

Just like how there are plenty of RPGs that support wannabe thespians. Games about “feelings” and “the narrative”. Not really for me (I’ve tried some of them), but they exist.

…there are even games for trust fund white Twitter activists like “Thirsty Sword Lesbians” and “Coyote and Crow” that they can buy, post photos on social media about the fact that they bought them, but never actually play them. Win-win!
 
Whenever anyone in my group (myself included) starts to get hung up on realism vs rules, I repeat a mantra some wise men wrote several decades ago:
If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts
Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show
I should really just relax."
 
That actually came up during one of the arguments and he said that there shouldn't be a mobility/dex penalty. He showed this YouTube video of a guy doing cartwheels and sprinting in full plate.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
And when the topic of weight came up, his argument was it shouldn't encumber him in any way because it's evenly distributed.



I think this is what bothers me the most. He is all multiple bullshit stereotypes in one, and he's not even good at being any of them.
The way dnd handles armor is extremely unrealistic. It's just...

Dnd was never intended to simulate a cohesive world. Forget just realism. Even internally it doesn't make sense.

From the first edition it was always intended as a game first, with roleplaying secondary. It's lost a lot of that - especially with the decreased lethality - but its backbone reminds the same. People first started trying to make more realistic takes on dnd about five minutes after the first games release, so there should be some half way decent systems out there. Just dnd isn't one of them, intentionally so.

It sounds like your guy wants a historic experience like a reenactment and dnd keeps cockblocking him.
 
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