Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

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I think the dwarf in the bottom right is one of the most faggy characters that I've ever seen; seriously, it looks like someone took a pug, threw it in a clothing sale reject bin, then gave it to a group of fags to molest.
Ah, well. I'll grant you the original artwork is better. Nothing beats Larry Elmore.

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One thing I liked with both 1st/2nd and 4th was that the artwork was the least cartoon-y. Even the interior stuff didn't have that Saturday Morning Cartoon look that some of the others had.
 
I'll tell you what modern D&D is, anybody remember chat rooms? specifically Yahoo chat rooms? up until 2005 people could create their own private rooms in the different categories one category was just RPG's and when you switched over to the private rooms section it was either kid diddlers or rooms called the slave market or any other fetish filth that goes for what *they* consider ttrpgs nowadays.
Mid 90s AOL was an educational experience and I quickly learned all the dumb feminist bullshit that was being fed to me was just that when I saw the ratio of women to men in the Gor chatrooms.
 
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Sorry, I know that's not helpful and I normally don't make this sort of joke. But I wouldn't touch 6e with a ten foot pole. You'd probably have to twist my arm to get me to agree to 5th.
2E Superiority.

But seriously, 2E was fucking great and I played 1E.

Didn't touch 3E for long after it came out before rolling back.
 
I'll tell you what modern D&D is, anybody remember chat rooms? specifically Yahoo chat rooms? up until 2005 people could create their own private rooms in the different categories one category was just RPG's and when you switched over to the private rooms section it was either kid diddlers or rooms called the slave market or any other fetish filth that goes for what *they* consider ttrpgs nowadays.
At least the chatroom roleplayers had bizzarre angel dragon catgirl characters that had a spark of fantastical whimsy or imagination. D&D 6e is about as magical as dressing up in assless chaps and throwing glitter on the audience of your local community theater while shouting "I ATTACK THE DARKNESS!"
2E Superiority.

But seriously, 2E was fucking great and I played 1E.

Didn't touch 3E for long after it came out before rolling back.
I've never played any edition except 4th. I do have good memories of my rigger overengineering a minigun that allowed our troll street sam to kill spirits without the need for magic.
 
30 years ago? yeah.
Bruh. even in the dialup AOL days. You don't remember?
"on AOL, The men are real men. The women are real men. The girls are real men. And the boys are FBI agents."

Don't tell me you've forgotten "G.I.R.L - Guy in Real Life".

They were just normal straight chasing faggots, not disgusting troons.
 
They were just normal straight chasing faggots, not disgusting troons.
Remember, Daniel Bunton trooned out in 1992. It was already happening back then, and the text-only chats were likely crawling with them. Dollars to donuts says Paul Jaquays was LARPing as a woman online for 15 years before his 2011 troon-out.
 
Remember, Daniel Bunton trooned out in 1992. It was already happening back then, and the text-only chats were likely crawling with them. Dollars to donuts says Paul Jaquays was LARPing as a woman online for 15 years before his 2011 troon-out.
Troons were a joke and had no power then. And increasingly, they're going back to that state as people lose interest with the troon fad.
 
That's the shittiest battle-dancer take I ever saw, and I'd demand my money back. It also doesn't remotely look like DnD, it looks like something really shitty I'd see in Thirsty Swords Lesbians, and whatever crappy adventure that is made in what is probably a dogshit splat where everyone who made it gets fired will suck.

I'd say it'd look more like something you might see in a cyberpunk or shadowrun setting, but that's insulting to them. Well maybe not insulting to Shadowrun 6e, but still.
 
That's the shittiest battle-dancer take I ever saw, and I'd demand my money back. It also doesn't remotely look like DnD, it looks like something really shitty I'd see in Thirsty Swords Lesbians, and whatever crappy adventure that is made in what is probably a dogshit splat where everyone who made it gets fired will suck.

I'd say it'd look more like something you might see in a cyberpunk or shadowrun setting, but that's insulting to them. Well maybe not insulting to Shadowrun 6e, but still.
God I hate Niggers of the Coast. Remember when this is what we got?
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One thing that annoys me about Gay Earth 2.0 is how everything seems to be less well researched and designed after the Internet became mainstream despite the fact that the whole damn point of it was to be an information repository. People literally drowning in references getting mogged by some guy who had to run down to a school library in the 90s to look up castles.
 
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I played 1st edition. But we very quickly moved to 2nd edition when it came out. It fixed some things and a lot of the supplemental material you'd want to make up your "core" game, came out for 2nd, not 1st. I think I get your point but I can't imagine many people who wanted to play 1st not agreeing that 2nd would be an improvement again.

I don't think there's really any 1st vs. 2nd, tbh. There is (1st & 2nd) vs. 3rd. And there's (1st & 2nd) vs. 3rd. vs 4th. 5th was largely a group of 3rd ed. grognards dancing on the corpse of 4e when Catalyst Game Labs screwed over the developers of 4e and turned to the Hate Brigade to produce a new edition so 5th is in many ways an attempt to get back to 3rd (but constrained by resource and ability to do so). So I think the break downs tend to be:
  • 2nd
  • 3rd or 5th
  • 4th
With 3rd vs. 5th having some preference divisions, but 1st vs. 2nd not so much.

Admittedly, it's been some years so I could be off-base. I wont touch Catalyst Game Lab products to this day. And nobody in their right mind wants to play 6th.

EDIT: Uh, no offence @Capsaicin Addict :story:
Eh, my affection for my friends (who I've been gaming with for 20 years) is greater than my distaste for 6E. Systems come and go; friends are what make the game fun.

But none of you are wrong, and honestly if it had been anyone else I'd have given it a pass. Ah well.

It does say something that I cannot for love or money find a goddamn optimization guide for 6E anywhere online. Gee, it's like nobody's playing it and can be arsed to put together a build guide. :thinking:
 
A friend showed me a copy of the Mork Borg rulebook a few days ago, and man! What an unusable piece of shit! You could barely tell what the book is about because there is so much art shit on every page. I own multiple books of RPG art and even some original pieces, but I hated this thing because the art is clearly being used to pad out a zine-sized OSR game printed in an outrageously overpriced hardcover.
 
Eh, my affection for my friends (who I've been gaming with for 20 years) is greater than my distaste for 6E. Systems come and go; friends are what make the game fun.

But none of you are wrong, and honestly if it had been anyone else I'd have given it a pass. Ah well.

It does say something that I cannot for love or money find a goddamn optimization guide for 6E anywhere online. Gee, it's like nobody's playing it and can be arsed to put together a build guide. :thinking:
Someone finally bothered to make a 6e module for foundry(year and a half ago or so), when the 5e(and the limits can be toggled off to use it for 4e) module has been out for years, even though shadowrun 6e came out before foundry.

It's kind of impressive you know someone who wants to run shadowrun and chose 6e of all things for it.
 
Eh, my affection for my friends (who I've been gaming with for 20 years) is greater than my distaste for 6E. Systems come and go; friends are what make the game fun.
However a game tends to last longer than a single one-off session or short campaign when its reasonably intuitive, not frustrating, and actually good. Or functional really; a lot of games people like are just decent really.

I don't think Shadowrun 6e is any of that, and would advise to at least suggest they try 5e instead; while it has its own bugbears, it has decent support and resources. 4e is also really good as a system and has the boon of being a lot faster to get into and learn.
 
Yeah. I get the principle of friends > edition. But... it's not a bad question why someone would choose 6e? Like does he not know any background to Shadowrun and just came across 6th by default and it's his first exposure to Shadowrun? Did he just assume 6 > 5 so better? Did he just buy the book on seeing it in a shop? I've honestly rarely seen an edition so universally hated at Shadowrun 6th edition. I mean in absolute numbers more people hated D&D 4e than SR 6e, but proportionally D&D 4e still had a lot of people who liked it. In fact, I'd say D&D 4e was actually a good game in many ways, it just wasn't exactly D&D. (Also had some real, though fixable, flaws). But Shadowrun 6th? I genuinely have never actually seen anyone argue in its favour.
 
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