Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[Čmarobnjak]

Better question:
Why the fuck would a goblin wear a helmet?

Big head big target.

 

[Ghostse]

Big head big target.

right, but the main point of a goblins head, other than going squish, is to distract an oponent into hitting it instead of more necessary parts.

 

[Čmarobnjak]

right, but the main point of a goblins head, other than going squish, is to distract an oponent into hitting it instead of more necessary parts.

Don't diss goblins, they have an Int of 10 on average, more than most barbarians.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

 

[Local Degenerate]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

I was just coming to post this.

I knew it was coming, but I want to vomit. How has WOTC not learned, these morons don't play their game, and it will never be enough.

Edit: I highly doubt that this is some big brain play, though. They've been on a path to make everyone start the same. Custom background where you can pick your own stats, making the entire system even more stupid than it used to be.

This is just them digging a hole, having the hole fill up with water when it rains, then deciding the reason they keep getting wet is the hole isn't deep enough.

 

[Corn Flakes]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

A friend pointed it out to me that "species" is a very scientific-sounding term for what's ostensibly a fantasy game, and now I can't unsee it. Of all the terms to use, including terms they could have just made up, they had to go with the most Current Year-sounding one.

 

[ZMOT]

the paizo "ancestry"-chad vs the wotc "species"-virgin

 

[The Ugly One]

I was just coming to post this.

I knew it was coming, but I want to vomit. How has WOTC not learned, these morons don't play their game, and it will never be enough.

Edit: I highly doubt that this is some big brain play, though. They've been on a path to make everyone start the same. Custom background where you can pick your own stats, making the entire system even more stupid than it used to be.

This is just them digging a hole, having the hole fill up with water when it rains, then deciding the reason they keep getting wet is the hole isn't deep enough.

Because it's not external pressure. Go look up everyone who works on D&D except Mike Mearls (if he's even still there). It's a crew of homosexuals and genderspecials who would probably get rid of all the icky combat and power concepts if Mattel would let them.

 

[40 Year Old Boomer]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

It's something I've had thoughts about, to be honest. Dwarves and elves are clearly different species, while it makes more sense to refer to wood elves and dark elves as different races. But then I'm also not coming at this from some faggoty perspective.

 

[Argrabius]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

New way to test new guys at the table
“What’s your character’s class and race?”

Also how many people are going to pretend to be triggered over old character sheets and templates that say race on them.

Can’t wait to see all the people who definitely actually play the game post on Reddit about how they bought new printings of every book the show their obvious moral superiority

 

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I guess the left one since the right one is basically "stab me here" over the ear holes. Maybe make some part of the armor a grill so to not impact hearing

 

[Judge Dredd]

Dwarves and elves are clearly different species, while it makes more sense to refer to wood elves and dark elves as different races.

But they can all breed with humans can't they? Half elves and half orcs are a thing. I've never heard of a half dwarf though.

How has WOTC not learned, these morons don't play their game, and it will never be enough.

Just yesterday I saw a conversation on a RPG Discord about how WotC are sweating since Dragonlance bombed hard, this is right after Spelljammer flopped. Both of which were meant to be guaranteed money printers.

I'm skeptical about this because Google tells me Dragonlance isn't released until the 6th, and WotC has been trying to fuck over the Dragonlance authors since WotC went woke.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

But they can all breed with humans can't they? Half elves and half orcs are a thing. I've never heard of a half dwarf though.

They were in Dark Sun. They're psionic heavy.

When they get introduced, lots of people like them for some reason.

 

[Ghostse]

Because it's not external pressure. Go look up everyone who works on D&D except Mike Mearls (if he's even still there). It's a crew of homosexuals and genderspecials who would probably get rid of all the icky combat and power concepts if Mattel would let them.

Mike Mearls also went full woke as I recall. Everyone is a gay homosexual. The only people slowing the roll are Marketing/Sales telling them "No, you can't have two trannies buttfucking on the cover, it won't sell enough".

It's something I've had thoughts about, to be honest. Dwarves and elves are clearly different species, while it makes more sense to refer to wood elves and dark elves as different races. But then I'm also not coming at this from some faggoty perspective.

But they can all breed with humans can't they? Half elves and half orcs are a thing. I've never heard of a half dwarf though.

Currect.
If we're getting scientific, a species is a naturally interbreeding population of organisms. If there are two populations that can interbreed but don't naturally for any number of reasons (Geography, active at different times of day/year, different mating practices like different rituals or scents) they are classed as different species. The example we were always given in biology class is some Rainforest butterfly. They are visually identical and nearly gentically identical but one species is active during the day, the other at night. You can artificially inseminate females eggs with sperm from the other species and you will have viable, fertile offspring. You can also fuck with lighting timing in a lab and get them to breed by themselves, but they never do it in nature.

The race was used in a "Race of men/Elves" sense because all the normal races are offshoots of effectively humans.

I'm skeptical about this because Google tells me Dragonlance isn't released until the 6th, and WotC has been trying to fuck over the Dragonlance authors since WotC went woke.

Be very skeptical about Dragonlance. As you said WotC tried their level best to fuck over the authors, and the authors sued them until WotC relented. Before the suit was dropped, the Authors were saying how WotC was meddling and forcing them to wokeify the book.

IIRC they didn't write the final book, they just wrote the draft and got paid. WotC trannies did the final edits and forced them to inject gender politics into the main narrative.

Spelljammer also probably did sell like shit because only turbo speds care, and they wokened it up. The Flying Apes = Niggers 'controversy' was probably astroturfed up to explain the bad sales to the higherups.

I've never heard of a half dwarf though.

They were in Dark Sun. They're psionic heavy.

When they get introduced, lots of people like them for some reason.

Half Dwarves are just short humans or tall dwarves. Remember for most of the run Dwarves lived to be 200 years, but they aged like normal until about 60 and then just kind of stayed old until they finally croaked.

Official half-dwarves are from Dark Sun and called Muls. Muls are unneeded edgelord shit (see: Darksun). People liked them because they were effectively Murderhobo: The Race.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Half Dwarves are just short humans or tall dwarves. Remember for most of the run Dwarves lived to be 200 years, but they aged like normal until about 60 and then just kind of stayed old until they finally croaked.

Official half-dwarves are from Dark Sun and called Muls. Muls are unneeded edgelord shit (see: Darksun). People liked them because they were effectively Murderhobo: The Race.

I just used Muls for my home campaign setting and dropped the murder hobo shit.

They're just known as Hill Dwarves.

 

[PaladinBoo]

So D&D is apparently removing the term 'race' and changing it to species. A change that would be completely unremarkable otherwise, since D&D races are different species, but in context it comes off as pandering.

And now I wonder if it's paving a way for bringing racial modifiers to stats, etc., back, since while you can't say races are different from each other, you can still say different species have different characteristics. For now.

Yet in the Neverwinter MMO (Which I play a lot of) they still use the terms like race and there is little to no woke shit in the game. That might be because Neverwinter has a global audience (I've played with people from Japan, Tunisia, Poland, etc.) and woke shit won't fly or be welcomed by people from countries outside the West. Funny how WotC are the "biggest champions for social justice" yet will gladly throw that out the window to get a global audience. Gee, where have I heard that one before?

As for WotC itself, they are now on the brink of collapse like I knew they would be the moment that America began to go into a recession. WotC had it good under Covid. Now those days are gone and today we live in a world where people can barely afford gas, let alone supplement books for D&D. This maybe why I've been seeing D&D books be heavily marked down on Amazon. Not to mention D&D YouTube is just full of DM's and players complaining about how awful 5e has become and how Wizard's is not really offering them anything other then campaign books.

Then of course you have WotC wanting to kill homebrew, the life blood of D&D. I remember telling a pair of progressive jackasses years ago that WotC hates when players play games the way they don't want them to play, such as making "problematic settings and characters" and wanting to bring an end to that by controlling the way players and DM's play D&D. The employees of WotC, just like the rest of progressive King County, believe that the only way to defeat racism and fascism is by controlling the way people act and think. WotC is full of control freaks.

I look forward to seeing how much money Hasbro and WotC are going to lose this quarter. This is only just the beginning of the recession and both WotC and Hasbro stocks have dropped heavily with WotC already losing 60 million in revenue. The longer the recession goes on the more money Hasbro and WotC are going to lose and the more likely that they will be having to cut the fat from their companies. I.e, doing what Elon did and dropping all their woke diversity hires. As they say, the first ones to lose their jobs in a recession are the diversity hires. Couldn't have happen to nicer people.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I look forward to seeing how much money Hasbro and WotC are going to lose this quarter. This is only just the beginning of the recession and both WotC and Hasbro stocks have drop heavily with WotC already losing 60 million in revenue. The longer the recession goes on the more money Hasbro and WotC are going to lose and the more likely that they will be having to cut the fat from their companies. I.e, doing what Elon did and dropping all their woke diversity hires. As they say, the first ones to lose their jobs in a recession are the diversity hires. Couldn't have happen to nicer people.

I don't know if it's being discussed in the MtG thread, but WotC is likely to have banked hard on earnings from the MTG 30th anniversary $1000 pack extravaganza, but all signs point to it having flopped hard. Hasbro is likely to come down on WotC like a ton of bricks for this, and the D&D division is almost guaranteed to get caught in the splash.

 

[PaladinBoo]

I don't know if it's being discussed in the MtG thread, but WotC is likely to have banked hard on earnings from the MTG 30th anniversary $1000 pack extravaganza, but all signs point to it having flopped hard. Hasbro is likely to come down on WotC like a ton of bricks for this, and the D&D division is almost guaranteed to get caught in the splash.

I've heard about that. This shows how utterly out of touch WotC are. These are the same idiots who think that it's no big deal to spend $20 bucks for a avocado toast and that everybody has enough money to spend on frivolous shit. The fact they did this during a recession shows what a bunch of dumbasses they have over at the WotC marketing department. Next year is going to be really interesting for WotC and Hasbro. Things are only going to get worse for them and they honestly deserve it.

 

[Chucklenuts]

A friend pointed it out to me that "species" is a very scientific-sounding term for what's ostensibly a fantasy game, and now I can't unsee it. Of all the terms to use, including terms they could have just made up, they had to go with the most Current Year-sounding one.

This has always been my biggest issue with it, beyond it just being woke pandering
Hell I'll take "lineage" over "species", like they did in the 5e Tasha's book, at least it sounds fantasy

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

You know, I gave Paizo some shit over ancestry in PF2, but with the way they reworked racial heritage and whatnot in the system it at least makes sense.

As usual, WotC is late and retarded.