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Letting normies play Table Top games as a mistake.

Eh, this crap always happens when something gets popular. I'm just happy tabletops have a long, eventful history so people have something to look back and learn from. It's not like most things now a-days where a form of media and it's fans have a few weeks to a month of actual quality discussion and mutual enjoyment over the medium before people from Tumblr and Reddit drag it through the dirt just because it's popular, making people feel embarrassed to publicly admitting to liking the product. Thankfully this period only lasts for a year or two before these people move on to the next "hot" thing and people can go back to enjoying it like everything else.

I've been suspecting this might happen to Tabletops soon, but again, they have a long history with a core group of dedicated fans, so it might not be so bad compared to other "fandom" cycles.
 
I've been suspecting this might happen to Tabletops soon, but again, they have a long history with a core group of dedicated fans, so it might not be so bad compared to other "fandom" cycles.

One major advantage tabletop has is that by its very nature it is extremely fractured. The game of Pathfinder (1 or 2) that I play is not going to be anywhere close to one that you play, even if the rules are exactly the same (and they never are), nor should it be. Compare this to other mediums, where the version of Ghostbusters 2016 I watched (I would like to state for the record I did not watch Ghostbusters 2016 and this is entirely a theoretical argument) is the same version you (theoretically) watched. Same goes for comic books, novels, or video games (generally, there's a subsection here on mods, but the store version is the same for everybody).

So when the "normies" come in to sink, burn, and destroy Tabletop like they have so many other hobbies, the grognards will retreat to their kitchen tables and play the systems they enjoy, and the normie wave will crash over the industry, sink a few companies, and then roll on to other pastures when they inevitably get bored pillaging or whatever they would do in this increasingly torturous metaphor. The actually good companies/products will survive because their products are quality.

Completely unrelated: I put Alex Jones into my campaign as a health potion vendor. There is a Slaad subplot going on right now, so I had him rant for a bit about gay frogs, then he gave one guy an "enlightenment" potion, and tried to sell them weightloss potions.
 
Oh god what is this?

http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=40325

I totally understand why that forum is knows as "Idiots of the Imperium"

Freedom of speech in the US is restricted to public space and to non-inflammatory, non-defamatory, non-libelous, non-sladerous communications.

Bulletin boards are NOT public space.
Especially not ones where membership is required to read threads.
They can and do censor things. Things like advertisements. Things like expressions of hate, or off topic [psts.

This board is the official site for Far Future Enterprises' Traveller IP.

You are allowed to make reasonable statements of dislike of a product, or even that you find it unsuitable for use.
I've gone past that line a few times in the past, and gotten yelled at for it.

But when you cross the line into libel, defamation, or accusation of criminal intent, you will get infracted. You will lose the privelege to post.

One of my first decisions as lead admin was to figure out how to handle appeals. It's simple - a reasoned, polite response by using the report PM button.

The fastest way to lose posting privileges here is to publicly argue an infraction in the thread you earned it for after a post was deleted.

The second fastest is to make statements implying criminal intent by the various producers of Traveller branded or CE based items. This extends to all of them.

Fastest way to lose an appeal? Mistake posting privileges for a right to be rude. You have a right to be rude, but you don't have the right to exercise it on this site. Nor do you have permission. (Blunt is fine. Disagreement is fine.)

Know also: Marc Miller sees all the reports. I don't know if he reads them all, but I do know they hit his email. Every so often, he emails me about one. He's only reversed one suspension... and then a week later, apparently banned the individual himself. Which I reversed after a cooldown.

He also has access to the various warnings and infractions. And the staff discussions about them. Marc can, and Robject occasionally does, review and comment about the process.

The discussion by staff often results in 2-3 days of discussion before a final resolution is reached on edge cases.

I've overturned a few moderator actions. Cryton has, too.

And, for consistency, I don't allow discussion of Ken Whitman, née Whit Whitman, other than to say that Marc is still trying to get Mr. Whitman to fulfill his obligations. When/if Marc has some information on it, it will hit the moot, and then be copied to this subforum, as well.

If I think something is an edge case, I report it, and the staff jointly figures it out.

Some of my favorite grognards have been silenced because they couldn't hold their posts to civility.

Also - I changed banned to be able to continue to read, so that losing posting doesn't mean losing access to reading. This has made bans less harsh, but has also resulted in fewer sockpuppets. Note: Cryton and I both have clearly labeled sockpuppet accounts; we use these for testing and seeing the user interface from the user side.
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Letting normies play Table Top games as a mistake.
Plan for all my future games. During the first three sessions with a new group I'm going to have everyone get together and build a bicycle, car, and space station using GURPS Vehicles Third Edition. Pen and paper. No calculator or computer aids. If people ask why I'll say this process is vital to rest of the game, and make it clear that if they want to find another group I completely understand. When we're done, or when all the "I want my game to be exactly like Critical Roll" people have left (probably after hearing that there would be two more sessions of this), I'll throw away the vehicles and run a straightforward FATE or GURPS 4E game with the remaining people.
 
This Friday I'm doing a one shot with my group. We're doing a road rally "movie" adventure ala Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit, etc. We'll be using the very light QAGS rules. It's set in 1982. Some of the NPC competitors going against the PC's in this coast to coast race are Rodney Dangerfield, Ringo Starr, Susan Anton, Jerry Reed (in a heel turn as the main cop antagonist), the band Kiss, Herve' Villechais, George Lazenby (James Bond for one movie) and a bunch of bumbling Nazis (ala the Blues Brothers) and a bunch of other "B" and "C" list celebrities from that era.

I have the boiler plate obstacles planned out - head to head interactions between the PC's and the other competitors and police, "Bridge out!" situations, construction site vehicles, semis and convoys...if any of you have any inspired ideas I will throw them in too.
 
This Friday I'm doing a one shot with my group. We're doing a road rally "movie" adventure ala Cannonball Run, Smokey and the Bandit, etc. We'll be using the very light QAGS rules. It's set in 1982. Some of the NPC competitors going against the PC's in this coast to coast race are Rodney Dangerfield, Ringo Starr, Susan Anton, Jerry Reed (in a heel turn as the main cop antagonist), the band Kiss, Herve' Villechais, George Lazenby (James Bond for one movie) and a bunch of bumbling Nazis (ala the Blues Brothers) and a bunch of other "B" and "C" list celebrities from that era.

I have the boiler plate obstacles planned out - head to head interactions between the PC's and the other competitors and police, "Bridge out!" situations, construction site vehicles, semis and convoys...if any of you have any inspired ideas I will throw them in too.
most of the things you referenced here are things i know almost nothing about. if any of your players are like me in that regard, you should have a brief description of all of these bands/celebrites/etc that don't rely on other references. have pictures of them all too.

even if they are all savvy with this sort of thing, they might not know of at least one of them, so having that prepared could still be useful
 
I recently joined a group, we're doing a short, horror based campaign right now. I've wanted to play for some time, but haven't been able to find a group due to being in a small town. Our DM is incorporating Dread (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_(role-playing_game)) when the big bad is in play. I honestly don't know how it happened, and I should have taken a picture of the jenga tower- last week we all had to take multiple actions to essentially not die to this thing, and we made all of them. Even our Kenku, who decided to put on a convenient paragliding suit and "fly" down to the goal area, taking two actions twice, made it. We were also set up at the awkward, rickety-thing shakes if you breathe on it wrong table.
 
I recently joined a group, we're doing a short, horror based campaign right now. I've wanted to play for some time, but haven't been able to find a group due to being in a small town. Our DM is incorporating Dread (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_(role-playing_game)) when the big bad is in play. I honestly don't know how it happened, and I should have taken a picture of the jenga tower- last week we all had to take multiple actions to essentially not die to this thing, and we made all of them. Even our Kenku, who decided to put on a convenient paragliding suit and "fly" down to the goal area, taking two actions twice, made it. We were also set up at the awkward, rickety-thing shakes if you breathe on it wrong table.
Dread can definitely get intense towards the end.
 
Completely unrelated: I put Alex Jones into my campaign as a health potion vendor. There is a Slaad subplot going on right now, so I had him rant for a bit about gay frogs, then he gave one guy an "enlightenment" potion, and tried to sell them weightloss potions.
That's hilarious.
Pffft. Barely moves the needle. Actually, a friend of mine wants to run this as a convention one-shot next year for shits and giggles.

Can't be any worse than some of the crap we've tried.
 
Wendy's just unveiled their own tabletop RPG in case there was any lingering doubt that tabletop RPGs are an aging entertainment form for aging people.
Unpopular opinion, but I don't see what the big deal is. It's not even meant to be taken seriously so I can let it off on that. (Another of my gamer friends thought the idea was funny in a good way.)
 
I concur with the sentiment that the Wendy's RPG is a harmless marketing gimmick. However, once you start to take it seriously....


then you quickly drop off the cliff into idiocy and cringe.
 
Pffft. Barely moves the needle. Actually, a friend of mine wants to run this as a convention one-shot next year for shits and giggles.

Can't be any worse than some of the crap we've tried.
Unpopular opinion, but I don't see what the big deal is. It's not even meant to be taken seriously so I can let it off on that. (Another of my gamer friends thought the idea was funny in a good way.)
I concur with the sentiment that the Wendy's RPG is a harmless marketing gimmick.

between this and the col sanders dating simulator, this is some of the most obscene commercialism i've seen worming its way into nerd culture, being given way too much of a pass because it's tongue-in-cheek.

i ate ads, i hate being propagandized to. the lack of pushback is just gonna invite more of this shit...
 
between this and the col sanders dating simulator, this is some of the most obscene commercialism i've seen worming its way into nerd culture, being given way too much of a pass because it's tongue-in-cheek.

i ate ads, i hate being propagandized to. the lack of pushback is just gonna invite more of this shit...

Um.
Here are some food games from the 80s and 90s. This is not new. At all; not even close.
 
between this and the col sanders dating simulator, this is some of the most obscene commercialism i've seen worming its way into nerd culture, being given way too much of a pass because it's tongue-in-cheek.

i ate ads, i hate being propagandized to. the lack of pushback is just gonna invite more of this shit...
Not engaging at all and going on with your life is the best, as the corporations in question will see that this is only marginally profitable, and will move on to smellable ads or dabbing in commercials or whatever the next marketing gimmick is.

i never argued that there weren't dude. this shit is far more subversive than any of that ever was
You're objectively wrong there. The contemporary marketing material, as dumb as it is, is free. You had to pay to be advertised to with the initial wave of this shit.
Please explain how you think this stuff is some kind of x-threat to nerd culture.
 
You're objectively wrong there. The contemporary marketing material, as dumb as it is, is free. You had to pay to be advertised to with the initial wave of this shit.
Please explain how you think this stuff is some kind of x-threat to nerd culture.
i mean if i'm objectively wrong there's not much point in arguing, i'm not sure when i said this was a threat to nerd culture though!!
 
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