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I hope mordheim is relaunched. Speaking of which, DR just made a video on it lol.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RxbItzcMK1U
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Mordheim relaunches with Old World style remakes and introduces a strong independent black woman as a Reiklander merc captain and a Skaven warband leader who is secretly female and trying to escape the rat patriarchy
 
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Mordheim relaunches with Old World style remakes and introduces a strong independent black woman as a Reiklander merc captain and a Skaven warband leader who is secretly female and trying to escape the rat patriarchy
Models are now on 32mm bases and all the terrain is laser cut wood L shapes. Stormcast VS Space marines is the starter box and the online rules are changed 2 days before release invalidating all the cards and rule books inside.
 
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Mordheim relaunches with Old World style remakes and introduces a strong independent black woman as a Reiklander merc captain and a Skaven warband leader who is secretly female and trying to escape the rat patriarchy
Models are now on 32mm bases and all the terrain is laser cut wood L shapes. Stormcast VS Space marines is the starter box and the online rules are changed 2 days before release invalidating all the cards and rule books inside.
Yeah I have no fucking clue why any one would wish for CURRENT YEAR GW to touch a product line they enjoy.
 
Skaven warband leader who is secretly female and trying to escape the rat patriarchy
In fairness-counterpoint, a rebel-rogue breeder who fled-scurried away to plot-devise revenge could be interesting-fun if done right, yes-yes.

But yeah, I could see them cock it up too since they don't remember that geographic regions and ethnicities are a thing.
Yeah I have no fucking clue why any one would wish for CURRENT YEAR GW to touch a product line they enjoy.
And yet they fucking lap every other minis company despite being broke-brained retards who shoot themselves in the foot. At least they can awkwardly waddle towards money.
 
So the GAMA is being held in town this week and I'm chilling in the table area chatting with some store owners...

One of them is reporting one of their biggest selling games right now is:

No word (literally, not discussed while flipping through the coupon book) on Trench Crusade.

The words about Games Workshop sound just like this board. LoL
 
And yet they fucking lap every other minis company despite being broke-brained retards who shoot themselves in the foot. At least they can awkwardly waddle towards money.
They do shoot themselves in the foot, but they do so with enough grace that it isn't obvious they're desperate to be shot like some maniac trying to suicide by cop, like damn near every other miniatures company out there.

So the GAMA is being held in town this week and I'm chilling in the table area chatting with some store owners...

One of them is reporting one of their biggest selling games right now is:

No word (literally, not discussed while flipping through the coupon book) on Trench Crusade.

The words about Games Workshop sound just like this board. LoL
That's not surprising, it'll just come down to how long they can hold out before doing the aforementioned suicide by cop while attempting to shoot themselves in the foot. To their credit, they've gone a year into the relaunch largely without doing so even if they did do that weird "neu republik green vault" thing.
 
I just bought an assemble set to see what quality the minis are. I'm interested but I want to see if there's a community for it first. Bandai have a bad track record in my book after the state of the Gundam TCG.
 
I just bought an assemble set to see what quality the minis are. I'm interested but I want to see if there's a community for it first. Bandai have a bad track record in my book after the state of the Gundam TCG.
Yeah I told someone this after they were claiming that the game is going to clown on 40k and Battletech.

Bandai has a very very bad habit of under production in NA, so the Deluxe edition may be 100 bucks, that won't mean much when they only release a couple thousand of them on launch day and then never resupply stores with them.
 
Yeah I told someone this after they were claiming that the game is going to clown on 40k and Battletech.
They their own eco system. No point trying to compete. Just be prepared to catch the run off when GW shits the bed and the next wave of refugees come looking for other games.
Bandai has a very very bad habit of under production in NA, so the Deluxe edition may be 100 bucks, that won't mean much when they only release a couple thousand of them on launch day and then never resupply stores with them.
They under print the first year of any game. Causes constant issues but lowers their risks. I tried to get into Gundam and it's just bad. The rules don't work very well and the sets are so underpowered the starter decks are still the best cards in the game after 3 releases. It's silly.

As long as you can find 5 friends or 10 guys to play at the shop I'll be happy with it. I tried the Halo game and liked it but it never picked up here.
 
Gundam Assemble has revealed its pricing and how to play the game.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wVECHET6d5I
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AKbKewR23gw
Expansions are going to be $40 each, the Starter set is $35, first Deluxe edition is $100, second is $170
The tables look good and there seems to be different maps available as well which I like. The price point is also pretty agreeable which is another positive for the game. Seems like a solid start and something I'll pick up so long as pre orders aren't scalped to hell and back.
 
IF anyone can take out GW, its the weebs. But history says anyone trying to take on GW always fucks up and smashes into the wall, and Japanese companies will often do this just on their own with no help from the Curse of Albion.

Also, is there any current Gundam property airing in the degenerate gaijin west?
 
IF anyone can take out GW, its the weebs. But history says anyone trying to take on GW always fucks up and smashes into the wall, and Japanese companies will often do this just on their own with no help from the Curse of Albion.

Also, is there any current Gundam property airing in the degenerate gaijin west?
Bandai has a massive history with gaming of fucking up and abandoning dozens of projects. Dozens of cancelled TCGs(One Piece is a success but no one would call it a competitor to MTG, the recent gundam TCG even less so), a handful of cancelled mobile games, some cancelled PC/console games(the gundam overwatch clone comes to mind as a recent one, yes they even tried that trend), cancelled a couple versions now of some of their huge 15-20k networked arcade cabinets making the hardware useless.

I took at look at the rules for the gundam skirmish game when they got leaked after the TCG show a couple weeks back and while they're alright for a simplistic skirmish game it's not a competitor to GW and wouldn't reasonably be able to even scale in model count to ever be an "army" game either.(you certainly could scale it using far larger models and your entire living room as a map though).

And that's before getting to production and distribution issues outside of Japan.
 
Also, is there any current Gundam property airing in the degenerate gaijin west?
There is a single movie right now and nothing else on the horizon. The latest series ended a few months back.

The Gundam TCG is one of the worst thought out TCGs I've ever seen. It has a health system where 10,000 damage and 1 damage does the same amount of player health. So the optimal strategy is to play Amuro to suspend things and then use all your 1 cost bodies to wreck their health in 1 turn. Most decks are unfinished and the support they get if they get additional support solve none of the decks problems. If you have a weak early game they will print a great top end for you, but you will never reach the top end because Amuro decks will run you over before then.
I took at look at the rules for the gundam skirmish game when they got leaked after the TCG show a couple weeks back and while they're alright for a simplistic skirmish game it's not a competitor to GW and wouldn't reasonably be able to even scale in model count to ever be an "army" game either.(you certainly could scale it using far larger models and your entire living room as a map though).
There are no competitors to GW because GW isn't a wargame. It's an eco system like Star wars is. You can't tell a Star wars fan that Gundam has light sabers and expect them to jump ship. GW fans want GW and you can't get them off of it until they're ready to leave.

Assemble looks so ugly. The board just looks ugly to look at. They could have made cheap plastic hills or something because the card version is off putting. I'm autistic about Gundam but I have no interest in Assemble other than building a select few models. The models are ugly, the board is ugly. It wants to be a 1 hour pick up and play tabletop game, but the release schedule wants to be a wargame. And then it's bandai so you know every year you're going to be buying a new force because they can't help but power creep everything. They have to sell models but the way bandai balance their game makes it unplayable within a couple of years. One piece got rotation to solve this at least.

I was hyped at reveal. I thought it might be fun. Concerned the models would be fragile but willing to go it a try. I've ordered one of the TCG assemble decks to give them a look in the next week but the game it's self I'm luke warm on. Too much time has passed since being revealed and the board looking so ugly is off putting. I'd rather trust a company like Mantic with Halo, who won't just Bandai everything and ruin the game in 2 years. It will take the same amount of time to play, same small figure count and same 2000s nostalgia for most people involved.
 
I assure you if Bandai weren't comically fucking incompetent with running their property and did not have contempt for their western or even eastern audience, they could very fucking easily dip their feet and do well in the minis genre. At least to the point it kills Battletech at least. Mainly because it does have the chops to become an ecosystem if done well enough. The legacy it has as Japanese Star Wars and having multiple universes or even the same setting with repeat series still liked more than highlights that.

Again, GW wins because it is at least marginally semiaware and very halfassedly cares about it's products. It wants money, so it gets money, and it does that by selling a product to the audience without fucking with them too much. This mindset is beyond the vast majority of the other companies apparently. It's a jalopy that shits oil and grinds when shifting gears, and it struggles to hit 45 mph. But that is all you need compared to the dui retard who jerks it in public and kills himself via 90 mph to the wall at the start. Or the smarmy cunt who insults the crowd and dies screaming when their car ignites like a fireball.
 
I assure you if Bandai weren't comically fucking incompetent with running their property and did not have contempt for their western or even eastern audience, they could very fucking easily dip their feet and do well in the minis genre. At least to the point it kills Battletech at least. Mainly because it does have the chops to become an ecosystem if done well enough. The legacy it has as Japanese Star Wars and having multiple universes or even the same setting with repeat series still liked more than highlights that.

Again, GW wins because it is at least marginally semiaware and very halfassedly cares about it's products. It wants money, so it gets money, and it does that by selling a product to the audience without fucking with them too much. This mindset is beyond the vast majority of the other companies apparently. It's a jalopy that shits oil and grinds when shifting gears, and it struggles to hit 45 mph. But that is all you need compared to the dui retard who jerks it in public and kills himself via 90 mph to the wall at the start. Or the smarmy cunt who insults the crowd and dies screaming when their car ignites like a fireball.
GW don't care about their products though. They just have an audience of idiots who will consume no matter what. I don't remember the last time I saw a GW fan excited for the game. It's more that they keep playing because they have nothing else in their life.

Bandai don't lock people into Gundam the same way. Gundam has all the same parts as Warhammer, but it lacks the social pressure. Autistic losers with no social life rely on warhammer or MTG to have friends and to engage with people. Gunpla doesn't. The TCGs Bandai run are close but none of them are anything like Warhammer or MTG. I can go to any town in the world and find someone to play warhammer or MTG with. Even if we don't speak the same language we can probably play. I've met Gundam fans IRL.. I do not tell any one I like Gundam or the TCGs I play. Anime stereotype is very real.
 
Assemble looks so ugly. The board just looks ugly to look at. They could have made cheap plastic hills or something because the card version is off putting. I'm autistic about Gundam but I have no interest in Assemble other than building a select few models. The models are ugly, the board is ugly. It wants to be a 1 hour pick up and play tabletop game, but the release schedule wants to be a wargame. And then it's bandai so you know every year you're going to be buying a new force because they can't help but power creep everything. They have to sell models but the way bandai balance their game makes it unplayable within a couple of years. One piece got rotation to solve this at least.
The card terrain I think is fine, because it keeps costs down. You'd be kidding yourself if you didn't think people would come up with 3d printed replacements that look better. Just the board itself already looks better than a flat battletech mat. There's of course people who use things like hereoscape tiles to add dimension to battletech as well, which also improves the overall look of things. Even in their own demo video they show plastic terrain. The cardboard keeps the barrier to entry lower even outside of cost because it means people can spend time on the models instead.
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The biggest problem I don't think is even going to revolve around balance, rather their scenarios. From their own promo video...
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If everything beyond the basic 3v3 requires both players to have and agree to use specific teams for this, this game may as well be DOA. I'm not going to take the time to get models I like, paint them, go to the store, and then have to try and convince some IBO loving faggot to play something other than IBO shit because I don't want IBO models nor do I want to handle their IBO models that they just happened to bring either.
I was hyped at reveal. I thought it might be fun. Concerned the models would be fragile but willing to go it a try. I've ordered one of the TCG assemble decks to give them a look in the next week but the game it's self I'm luke warm on. Too much time has passed since being revealed and the board looking so ugly is off putting. I'd rather trust a company like Mantic with Halo, who won't just Bandai everything and ruin the game in 2 years. It will take the same amount of time to play, same small figure count and same 2000s nostalgia for most people involved.
Now this is where Bandai truly showed their ass.

Congratulations, you don't have anything to play the game with. Why? Because for whatever fucking reason Bandai put the wrong bases in the package with the models in the TCG bundles. Since the bases need to fix on the hex grid with layers, and still allow multiple models being within base to base contact, you've already got to rip the bases off(and a couple of the models have scenic bases like the guncannon) replace them with... oh wait they didn't announce a SKU for that.
 
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