Swatch x Omega Moonswatch lunacy

[PuffyGroundCloud]

It’s Omega watch, of course it’s expensive
Even Swatch is pricey too

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Watches nowadays evolved past telling the time. That's why I mentioned fashion watches

Slight power level, a distant cousin of mine who I treat like a brother with does watch repair and I help out sometimes in the shop with some pivoit polishing and reassembly/repair. He does most of the repair work and gear cutting..

A true person with understanding of horology history would know that SWATCH is monopoly of the watch industry from the Swiss due to the quartz crisis brought on by Seiko, Citizen and Casio.

Swatch is so monopolistic to the point that they will not sell many times replacement parts to watchmakers/repairers unless they are swatch "authorized" or "licensed" (You make shit and get shafted). Usually if there's a warranty issue with a watch they just give you a new one since they are all CNC machine made. Don't get caught selling parts to cannibalize too or they will strike you from the vendor/repair list.

So most "western" watch brands are all the same internally underneath. Kinda like how a Ford Ranger was a Mazda B3000. It's not hard to "make" a watch buy buying a movement and customizing the exterior nowadays. Only issue would likely be dials if you want a custom paint job or etchings. Some people offer services around 1-5k to assemble to your specification. I wouldn't trust them unless I saw how they assembled.

If you really, really wanted to spurge buy a watch with a co-axial movement (it's more precise than a quartz if done right), or if you really, really have no where to spend your money, get a handmade watch from his "disciple" Roger W Smith I have much detest for the man for Daniel's left his legacy to anyone who could read and be dedicated, not just whoever he took in.(He hires lower paid watchmakers who just graduated to make 90% of his shit nowdays), and wait three to five years and be out around ~150,000 USD before taxes.

Or maybe buy one from Masahiro Kikuno if you can, he makes one watch a year or two. This man I have much respect for as he is a true "craftsman" as he makes his gears and polishes his pivots with a hand file with higher precision than most watchmakers can with a lathe.

Edit: European watchmakers (large companies) do occasionally assemble and sometimes handmake watches. You have to be Middle Eastern Shiek (Or Jew banker) type money for that. The Vacheron 57260 was made over five years and is one of the most complicated watches known to exist, including a Georgian, lunar, astrological and a Hebrew calendar, striking tones for passing time (Grand/petite sonnerie), night silence mode and a shit ton of indicators.
If had to even dissemble that I think I would have a stroke.

 

[PolPot]

It’s Omega watch, of course it’s expensive
Even Swatch is pricey too

It's not an Omega, it's just swatch quartz piece.

 

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

Who even wears watches anymore?

A mechanical watch is a testimony to White Man's civilization, now dead, but once glorious. In any culture ever the attention to detail needed to make a watch would be considered a technological marvel. A watch is the manifestation of Pure Reason. A nigger could not make a mechanical watch, not in a million years. Watches are what distinguishes us from animals. Watches also look really cool. And if you wear a "smartwatch" you should kill yourself.

 

[Hippopatumus]

Meh they're neat and the price point AT MSRP is actually pretty fair. I'll get one once you can actually order them AT MSRP. They're down to $500 on stockx so I think supply might be starting to catch up.

It's a good backup watch for if you are going somewhere potentially sketchy and you don't want to risk getting robbed for something the value of a decent used car on your wrist.

 

[baldo_giovane]

Meh they're neat and the price point AT MSRP is actually pretty fair. I'll get one once you can actually order them AT MSRP. They're down to $500 on stockx so I think supply might be starting to catch up.

It's a good backup watch for if you are going somewhere potentially sketchy and you don't want to risk getting robbed for something the value of a decent used car on your wrist.

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"Neat" nigga it's a plastic watch, they didn't even have the decency to ship it with a non plastic mineral crystal.
Around that pricepoint there are Citizen watches that are orders of magnitude better, starting from an actual sapphire crystal, steel case and bracelet (some are even titanium), eco-drive, radio control and the list goes on. It's a shitty purchase even for fashion watches standards. Or if you still want a Swatch anyone of them is better, there are even steel ones for a lower MSRP.

 

[Hippopatumus]

You're not wrong, but its a moonwatch, if only in looks. That counts for something. Base model moonwatches have a plastic crystal too anyway.

If you are only going to have one watch, I agree that a Citizen is a better choice on quality alone though. Actually I think a Vostok is the better choice in the sub-500 price range.

 

[PolPot]

A mechanical watch is a testimony to White Man's civilization, now dead, but once glorious. In any culture ever the attention to detail needed to make a watch would be considered a technological marvel. A watch is the manifestation of Pure Reason. A nigger could not make a mechanical watch, not in a million years. Watches are what distinguishes us from animals. Watches also look really cool. And if you wear a "smartwatch" you should kill yourself. View attachment 3477066

You are bragging "much white man, much achievement" and you post some russkie negro-power-piece. At least post a watch made by a human being, champ.

 

[Pissmaster]

E: Also I don't have to charge my watch every night. If there's ever an extended power failure, good luck telling any kind of time when your shit runs out of battery because I'd bet hard cash you fucks that rely entirely on your phones couldn't read a sun dial, a compass, or judge time of day from the sky.

I can read this one:

 

[ThatsMyDog]

What's your grail watch, Kiwis?

 

[Hippopatumus]

Astronomia

 

[White Devil]

What's your grail watch, Kiwis?

4th gen Omega Speedmaster like the Apollo 11 crew had. Probably not the hardest to find but $6-10,000 is still a decent chunk of change to drop on a watch.

 

[Windows 10 Upgrade]

Wtf does “bioceramic” even mean

Terrifyingly, it means plastic

 

[Cool Dog]

Swatch makes the all stainless "Boxengasse" model that has the same movement and costs less than the MSRP of the Moonswatch.

Plastic made from vegetable oil with ceramic powder mixed in it that stains your skin.
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That was the best looking one and still looks like cheap plastic shit IRL, pathetic

Also not a moon watch if its quartz

Slight power level, a distant cousin of mine who I treat like a brother with does watch repair and I help out sometimes in the shop with some pivoit polishing and reassembly/repair. He does most of the repair work and gear cutting..

A true person with understanding of horology history would know that SWATCH is monopoly of the watch industry from the Swiss due to the quartz crisis brought on by Seiko, Citizen and Casio.

Swatch is so monopolistic to the point that they will not sell many times replacement parts to watchmakers/repairers unless they are swatch "authorized" or "licensed" (You make shit and get shafted). Usually if there's a warranty issue with a watch they just give you a new one since they are all CNC machine made. Don't get caught selling parts to cannibalize too or they will strike you from the vendor/repair list.

So most "western" watch brands are all the same internally underneath. Kinda like how a Ford Ranger was a Mazda B3000. It's not hard to "make" a watch buy buying a movement and customizing the exterior nowadays. Only issue would likely be dials if you want a custom paint job or etchings. Some people offer services around 1-5k to assemble to your specification. I wouldn't trust them unless I saw how they assembled.

If you really, really wanted to spurge buy a watch with a co-axial movement (it's more precise than a quartz if done right), or if you really, really have no where to spend your money, get a handmade watch from his "disciple" Roger W Smith I have much detest for the man for Daniel's left his legacy to anyone who could read and be dedicated, not just whoever he took in.(He hires lower paid watchmakers who just graduated to make 90% of his shit nowdays), and wait three to five years and be out around ~150,000 USD before taxes.

Or maybe buy one from Masahiro Kikuno if you can, he makes one watch a year or two. This man I have much respect for as he is a true "craftsman" as he makes his gears and polishes his pivots with a hand file with higher precision than most watchmakers can with a lathe.

Edit: European watchmakers (large companies) do occasionally assemble and sometimes handmake watches. You have to be Middle Eastern Shiek (Or Jew banker) type money for that. The Vacheron 57260 was made over five years and is one of the most complicated watches known to exist, including a Georgian, lunar, astrological and a Hebrew calendar, striking tones for passing time (Grand/petite sonnerie), night silence mode and a shit ton of indicators.
If had to even dissemble that I think I would have a stroke.

Since you're the official kiwi watch guy, how good are bell&ross watches? always liked these instruments models

 

[D_Tractor]

What's your grail watch, Kiwis?

 

[TracdacianTortoise]

Im not entirely sure what the reason most people wear watches nowadays is, I reckon it’s mostly just cause they cost money and you can show them off. Many people only appreciate a watch for its monetary value, and not the craftsmanship put into them. It’s not as common now, since a lot of lower end watches use mass produced Swiss movements, but real old pocketwatches have so much effort put into the mechanism and the decoration. To some extent, they’re a brilliant combination of all of mankind’s progress to this point, at least when it comes to mechanics. They’ve stagnated a little though, nothing really new that breaks the mould has occurred in watches it seems, quartz movements or digital watches offer more functionality for less, and there’s been little effort to bring some of those conveniences to reasonably priced wristwatches. Probably doesn’t help the Swiss monopolised the movement market during WWII,

 

[baldo_giovane]

What's your grail watch, Kiwis?

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Since you're the official kiwi watch guy, how good are bell&ross watches? always liked these instruments models

They are a bit lacking imho. I've only seen a handful (<10) but I have serviced one. The first search on youtube turns up this.
The listed watch movement on their site is actually a modified ETA (Subsidiary of SWATCH) 2894-2. It is a modified movement to where the data function is replaced with a chronometer.
I do not know the watch grade (so 4-20 seconds loss/gain per day).
The bands are rubber and will crack and break. Not of very good quality. Did pass water resistance test upon service according to my service notes.

In short, go buy something else (I recommened a Seiko cause cheap and overlooked), these will not appreciate in value due to the plastic wrist-strap and shitty exterior. Movement itself should be solid.

Or buy a Elgin/American watch co/Lano from the 1950s pocketwatch and never get mugged because you keep it in a pocket.

 

[Trigger Me Timbers]

Another explanation for a recent price increase for omega watches is there’s a TikTok and YouTube shorts trend of people taking these old Omega watches as scrap, refurbishing them and re selling them for like 20k so even the used market is getting inflated.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Another explanation for a recent price increase for omega watches is there’s a TikTok and YouTube shorts trend of people taking these old Omega watches as scrap, refurbishing them and re selling them for like 20k so even the used market is getting inflated.

I hate these people.
But ETA and SWATCH pieces from before the quartz crisis are great!