I'm telling ya. The gap with Nairo was still relatively small not that it's justifiable and money was involved? This whole shit is ridiculous. Zack is walking covid. Something is fucked up about that dude.
I do not understand why you would willingly get into a relationship you know is illegal, blackmail said predator with hush money payments, do it a SECOND time, all the while trying to cheat by rigging tournaments because you are a retarded manipulative sissy faggot and then think you can jump on the Smash Sex Assault bandwagon by trying to get #metoo points despite the mountains of evidence.
Women go through this shit all the time especially minors. "Well she was asking for it blah blah."
So guys, how the hell did Infiltration survive this shit? Is it Korean law? Did he just lawyer up really hard and fuck everyone in the ass ala UltraDavid's recounting of events? That guy's a beast.
I don't think Infiltration is super relevant to the SSB community, but the short answer is that there were court battles, investigations, and a long time off from the CPT. The biggest factor, though, was probably his wife's repeated attempts to abuse the legal system resulting in her looking more like the instigator than the victim. I'd still say his rep was tarnished, but he's mostly survived it.
The only person I know about within the community other than Sky is Hungrybox from EmpLemon’s video. Saw earlier in the thread that he was going to eventually be outed, though don’t think I saw any follow up posted. What became of that?
I don't think Infiltration is super relevant to the SSB community, but the short answer is that there were court battles, investigations, and a long time off from the CPT. The biggest factor, though, was probably his wife's repeated attempts to abuse the legal system resulting in her looking more like the instigator than the victim. I'd still say his rep was tarnished, but he's mostly survived it.
If this were a police matter, cops would be called. You might have noticed that none of the people involved in this are ending up with any jail time (yet) - these people are content creators and pro-gamers and if they get burned to their fans and their sponsors, their career is over anyway. The optimal way (if possible) to deal with this situation is pull a Kobe Bryant and to buy them off go die in a helicopter crash
Is that the same person? Even if it wasn't, you can't really discredit everyone just because of some crazy shitposters like them. I get it, Hungrybox has some defenders out there but, just like the way it's happening with the others, we need to wait for something concrete for now and ignore the crazy people because they will do this with others too.
To be optimistic about Hungrybox he got a lot of shit in the scene for a long time because he played puff, and didn't really interact with the wider community. They considered him toxic, and he considered them toxic. He also for quite a few years juggled engineering school with Smash, and a full time job for a while. He didn't have time to interact with people in the same way a lot of these people do. This was years ago, but listen to how the other gods talk about him:
Not saying it couldn't happen but of the older stock of players I wouldn't've pegged him as someone getting involved in a situation as insane as any of the stuff that's come out.
To be optimistic about Hungrybox he got a lot of shit in the scene for a long time because he played puff, and didn't really interact with the wider community. They considered him toxic, and he considered them toxic. He also for quite a few years juggled engineering school with Smash, and a full time job for a while. He didn't have time to interact with people in the same way a lot of these people do. This was years ago, but listen to how the other gods talk about him: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0TGYmmQ7zwMNot saying it couldn't happen but of the older stock of players I wouldn't've pegged him as someone getting involved in a situation as insane as any of the stuff that's come out.
Agreed, unlike most Smashers Hbox was actually socially capable enough to graduate and get a decent job, all while stomping kids in Melee. For most of that I doubt he had time or the will to fuck around with some underage girl or whatever. Who knows though? Apparently everyone is a sex pest in Smash.
My experience with the guy is that he's fake. He comes to you when he needs something, whether it's his pathological need to tell other people things to feel better about himself, or to get help with things (for free of course by begging) which is an endless vortex; as long as he needs help, he'll bother you. I got bored dealing with him and stopped replying to his messages, he went to bother someone else and never talked to me again.
When you need him specifically for something, he's never there unless it gets him clout publicly.
Unfortunately that's how it is in Youtube/Twitch spheres. I believe that quite a few of the people who were higher in the "house hierarchy" took advantage of the situation for what it's worth knowing full well what was going on in his house, and now that the dominos are falling, are taking the opportunity to take him down to get clout themselves.
That person who lived there for 4 households (ffsade), the author of one of the google docs, is one of those people. Sky spoke quite fondly of her on many occasions, and I've no doubt that she used her relation with him to get freelance work/connections/internet popularity especially with Riot Games. Sky was well connected with Riot Games, to the point where Riot paid for a flight for him to do stand up comedy for Riot employees. Now that she doesn't need him anymore, she gets to take the moral high ground.
The same can be said with Jisu.
As soon as Jisu turned 18 and didn't need Jesse Warner (Vidjogamer) to sell her art shit, she #metoo'd him.
As soon as this new wave of accusations came out, the Sky house became unsalvagable, and Zero virtue signaled, she #metoo'd him.
If I were to pick one term to describe many of the girls in the Sky House, it would be codependency.
This is vague, but there's an implication that Jisu lived in two different places in the past few years. This is the part that puzzles me from her Google Docs:
While I’ve always maintained a steady distance and been very wary of Sky (which he knows) I’ve never had enough proof of damning experiences besides him being severely negligent and flighty. That being said, there were a lot of times I could clearly tell he was trying to take advantage of me and my situation. Besides the multiple times he’d harass me for commissions at the house, which I would almost always deny (and the one time I did it, he didn’t pay)-- after I came out with my initial story of severe abuse under his household and my abuser’s, on top of already allowing a 15 year old runaway girl to live in the house filled with alcohol, drugs, and several older men...he attempted to chide me into moving back in with him in a similar living situation right after I got out of hell...but in exchange for work.
She seems to imply that she lived in two different places, but that she moved back in with Sky. Are we talking about a different place of residence, or just moving inside the Sky House? She's also stated on social media that she was harassed at the sky house by ZeRo when she was 15. The implication seems to be that Sky Williams is complicit in "trafficking" her over to California. Sky Williams has stated that he signed a letter of residency so she could enroll in a school but that Werner never disclosed her age. If Werner is stated as her guardian, how could you not know she was underage?
In 2019, she had a booth at SuperSmashCon, she was selling a lot of her merch, including her art, for $20 a poster
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You don't need to be a genius to figure out that she probably wasn't making bank. Let alone make enough to afford a place in the area she was living in. There are multiple artists on Twitter who lived in the Sky House like ffsade and ohnips. None of them have good enough art skills to be hired by the industry, even by the companies who will sometimes commission them. They largely rely on income from convention booths and commissions, and sometimes used their connections in the Sky House to get commission work from esports teams like Team Liquid. The people I know who work in the industry have far, far better skills than they do.
So they're stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to maintain a lifestyle, and the Sky House intersected their financial interests despite all the disgusting stuff that went on there. This is a basic conflict of interest, they find the behavior of others deplorable, and rightfully so, but are also obtaining money/opportunities from this arrangement. That should tell you a lot about the character of these artists. They are very opportunistic and in some cases vengeful.
Now that they see the money train coming to an end, they're taking everyone else down and get to be heralded as the heroes of the Smash community. They get to have their cake and eat it too. There were some comments about people pretending to be friendly with others in the Sky House, I've not doubt this also applies to these artists' relations with other people.
I feel that these people deserved each other in a way. This is what happens when you have no spine and no standards. You really ought to ask yourself "Why are all these pedos being called out years after the fact?", some of the people living in the Sky House knew this was going on, benefited from the arrangement, and weren't underage.
Jisu's art career's going nowhere fast, so to her, she might as well take a few people down with her. She has a fetish for bridge burning and it shows.
She's essentially in the same place as Zero, too. She's cut all ties with her parents so she has no one else to really run to, never completed her education past high school, never went to college, and has no hireable skills outside of painting pretty anime pictures. At the very least, she'll might be able to find a food service job unlike Zero since nothing bad's come out about her yet.
Only other difference is that Zero still has Vanessa in his life as support. Jisu won't be satisified until Zero's just as lonely, poor, and miserable as she is. Him taking his life in the ultimate act of misery would probably be a bonus to her.
I didn't make the connection, I edited the post to add that last part about VoiD. In retrospect, it's funny that spilling water on a keyboard is what he resorted to. It's not exactly what I had in mind from a guy who threatens people to break their personal belongings.
Somehow the situation has gone from dire to dire-rer.
Sky Williams is a piece of shit but this is going inside my "Things that didn't happen" folder. It literally hits all of the marks for a fake rape/sexual assault story.
The same can be said with Jisu.
As soon as Jisu turned 18 and didn't need Jesse Warner (Vidjogamer) to sell her art shit, she #metoo'd him.
As soon as this new wave of accusations came out, the Sky house became unsalvagable, and Zero virtue signaled, she #metoo'd him.
Jisu's art career's going nowhere fast, so to her, she might as well take a few people down with her. She has a fetish for bridge burning and it shows.
She's essentially in the same place as Zero, too. She's cut all ties with her parents so she has no one else to really run to, never completed her education past high school, never went to college, and has no hireable skills outside of painting pretty anime pictures. At the very least, she'll might be able to find a food service job unlike Zero since nothing bad's come out about her yet.
Only other difference is that Zero still has Vanessa in his life as support. Jisu won't be satisified until Zero's just as lonely, poor, and miserable as she is. Him taking his life in the ultimate act of misery would probably be a bonus to her.
To corroborate this, she's said in various Twitter statements before that she doesn't want to be picked up by a company proper, even though that itself would legitimately be the best opportunity to advance her career. She's had olive branches extended to her by what I want to say are various Disney employees, some Riot employees, and Twitch in particular has a certain habit of coming back to her time and time again.
I think it was mentioned somewhere else that following the fall-out that was her legal situation in 2018, she moved back away from her parents back to Southern California to pursue business prospects; said business prospects obviously meaning exacting vengeance on Sky and following through on offers made to her from there.
Zero assures his youtube followers he's doing some therapy and will be bac soon like nothing happened. The comment section is just a big pile of "i'm so glad you're back!"
Zero did nothing and somehow is the biggest anime redemption since Zuko.
And here i was thinking he would off himself. I gues you cant cancel someone who does youtube mostly (like keemstar), they dont give a fuck and the money is too good.
Zero assures his youtube followers he's doing some therapy and will be bac soon like nothing happened. The comment section is just a big pile of "i'm so glad you're back!"
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And here i was thinking he would off himself. I gues you cant cancel someone who does youtube mostly (like keemstar), they dont give a fuck and the money is too good.
Zero assures his youtube followers he's doing some therapy and will be bac soon like nothing happened. The comment section is just a big pile of "i'm so glad you're back!"
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And here i was thinking he would off himself. I gues you cant cancel someone who does youtube mostly (like keemstar), they dont give a fuck and the money is too good.
It always blows my mind how something like this will happen, the guy admits he's a paedophile, and just thinks he can waltz back online as if nothing happened. It's actually mental
Zero assures his youtube followers he's doing some therapy and will be bac soon like nothing happened. The comment section is just a big pile of "i'm so glad you're back!"
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And here i was thinking he would off himself. I gues you cant cancel someone who does youtube mostly (like keemstar), they dont give a fuck and the money is too good.
I mean, it was obvious ZeRo was going to keep his success 100% and suddenly everyone would just forgive him and forget about what happened. When you get all the popularity, money and loads of extremely loyal followers, especially in this specific kind of community, you're always going to be fine if you know how to play your cards. That's kind of how cancel culture works most of the time.
Not gonna pretend he didn't do the things he did but, as long as his big support circle doesn't care, it's like whatever. I'm not trying to a-log when saying this but I'm glad that, even when he's trying to surround himself in money, suscribers and asspats, other people won't just let him get away with this scot-free and will remind him of the awful shit he did. You can't simply escape your terrible actions like this because you're successful.
Therapy rarely does anything when others expect you to go instead of, you know, going on your own. You are not going because of genuine reasons, you are going simply because you got caught and this is what people are asking you to do.
"People, ZeRo is going to therapy! He's a good boy now!"
The same can be said with Jisu.
As soon as Jisu turned 18 and didn't need Jesse Warner (Vidjogamer) to sell her art shit, she #metoo'd him.
As soon as this new wave of accusations came out, the Sky house became unsalvagable, and Zero virtue signaled, she #metoo'd him.
Jisu's art career's going nowhere fast, so to her, she might as well take a few people down with her. She has a fetish for bridge burning and it shows.
She's essentially in the same place as Zero, too. She's cut all ties with her parents so she has no one else to really run to, never completed her education past high school, never went to college, and has no hireable skills outside of painting pretty anime pictures. At the very least, she'll might be able to find a food service job unlike Zero since nothing bad's come out about her yet.
Only other difference is that Zero still has Vanessa in his life as support. Jisu won't be satisified until Zero's just as lonely, poor, and miserable as she is. Him taking his life in the ultimate act of misery would probably be a bonus to her.
You're really underestimating how far a 'cute' girl with art talent can go in this industry, even when she burned bridges and cut ties with Smash Bros. You can make 50 k a month just drawing anime portraits on Patreon
I would be mad too. Leffen has to follow a very stick moral etiquette if he doesn't want to get canceled/humiliated because of his virtue signaling + most smash fans don't like him so any mistakes is a good reason to shit on him.
Where as Zero can ask Cp and still be welcome by a sizable portion of his audience (which is in any case bigger than Leffen own fan club)
Tldr: The Chad Pedo Zero Vs The Virgin Pimple Virtue Boy Leffen
and suddenly everyone would just forgive him and forget about what happened. When you get all the popularity, money and loads of extremely loyal followers, especially in this specific kind of community, you're always going to be fine if you know how to play your cards. That's kind of how cancel culture works most of the time.
