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rotollo said:
ZeRo should not have stuck his dick in crazy
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He didn't he just showed her hentai (which is a fine piece of asian culture she should be gratefull)
The funniest part to me tho is Jisu writing about how she made her google docs with the victims approval yet non asking Zero's Gf anything and lying about her age( pretty much saying that Zero is a straight up pedophile)
 
Truthboi said:
I doubt the Fire Emblem community will implode given as many ITT have said, there are various factions that do not interact with each other. Furthermore, there is not really any real competitive or cooperative aspect to Fire Emblem compared to Smash or Pokemon.
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Fire Emblem imo imploded when it went from grand narratives of politics, race relations, the intricacies of power, and betrayals to high school waifu pairing simulators.
 
Violent Ken Apologist said:
What's the opinion on Jisu, folks?
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It's probably easy to just say "crazy" but,

If I were to pick one term to describe many of the girls in the Sky House, it would be codependency.

This is vague, but there's an implication that Jisu lived in two different places in the past few years. This is the part that puzzles me from her Google Docs:

While I’ve always maintained a steady distance and been very wary of Sky (which he knows) I’ve never had enough proof of damning experiences besides him being severely negligent and flighty. That being said, there were a lot of times I could clearly tell he was trying to take advantage of me and my situation. Besides the multiple times he’d harass me for commissions at the house, which I would almost always deny (and the one time I did it, he didn’t pay)-- after I came out with my initial story of severe abuse under his household and my abuser’s, on top of already allowing a 15 year old runaway girl to live in the house filled with alcohol, drugs, and several older men...he attempted to chide me into moving back in with him in a similar living situation right after I got out of hell...but in exchange for work.

She seems to imply that she lived in two different places, but that she moved back in with Sky. Are we talking about a different place of residence, or just moving inside the Sky House? She's also stated on social media that she was harassed at the sky house by ZeRo when she was 15. The implication seems to be that Sky Williams is complicit in "trafficking" her over to California. Sky Williams has stated that he signed a letter of residency so she could enroll in a school but that Werner never disclosed her age. If Werner is stated as her guardian, how could you not know she was underage?

In 2019, she had a booth at SuperSmashCon, she was selling a lot of her merch, including her art, for $20 a poster

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You don't need to be a genius to figure out that she probably wasn't making bank. Let alone make enough to afford a place in the area she was living in. There are multiple artists on Twitter who lived in the Sky House like ffsade and ohnips. None of them have good enough art skills to be hired by the industry, even by the companies who will sometimes commission them. They largely rely on income from convention booths and commissions, and sometimes used their connections in the Sky House to get commission work from esports teams like Team Liquid. The people I know who work in the industry have far, far better skills than they do.

So they're stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to maintain a lifestyle, and the Sky House intersected their financial interests despite all the disgusting stuff that went on there. This is a basic conflict of interest, they find the behavior of others deplorable, and rightfully so, but are also obtaining money/opportunities from this arrangement. That should tell you a lot about the character of these artists. They are very opportunistic and in some cases vengeful.

Now that they see the money train coming to an end, they're taking everyone else down and get to be heralded as the heroes of the Smash community. They get to have their cake and eat it too. There were some comments about people pretending to be friendly with others in the Sky House, I've not doubt this also applies to these artists' relations with other people.

I feel that these people deserved each other in a way. This is what happens when you have no spine and no standards. You really ought to ask yourself "Why are all these pedos being called out years after the fact?", some of the people living in the Sky House knew this was going on, benefited from the arrangement, and weren't underage.
 
the autist of dojima said:
I just wanted a new megami tensei game that isnt a no budget persona game designed for retarded waifufags
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I hate to break it to you, but most of SMT really doesn't have any core unique mechanics compared to other wizardry clones.

The bargaining/talking to enemies persona incorporated and it wasn't used in an obtuse way. The battle system for SMT is your basic turn based structure. First person Dungeon crawlers are more or less a relic of the past. Being able to move in 4 directions is something that really puts off people(also the fact that Dpads are now mistly used for menu control and not actual movement) and the fact that you can't see your party while moving gives it a real claustrophobic feel that people just don't like. It's the reason why all other attempts at revitalizing OLD SCHOOL Dungeons Crawlers essentially failed.

There's been so much advancement in the genre from a mechanical standpoint that to try and reject persona fully would mean to cripple the gameplay.

People basically just like SMT for the art style, but try finishing shit to 100% completion like you would a persona game. Noctourne is notorious for needing save states because the demon fusing is a lottery.

If they want to make SMT have broad appeal they need to use persona's demon fusing mechanics and how they do the bargaining. Make it a full on 3D dungeon and have the Overworld be fully explorable like Dragon Quest 11 or Final Fantasy did it. Also make the 3 endings quantifiers Law, Neutral, and Chaos be visible at all times so people can change their allegiance by making informed decisions and tie that to shit like quests. Because another thing people have zero tolerance for is unknowingly getting into an end state and missing shit.
 
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Marissa Moira said:
I hate to break it to you, but most of SMT really doesn't have any core unique mechanics compared to other wizardry clones.

The bargaining/talking to enemies persona incorporated and it wasn't used in an obtuse way. The battle system for SMT is your basic turn based structure. First person Dungeon crawlers are more or less a relic of the past. Being able to move in 4 directions is something that really puts off people(also the fact that Dpads are now mistly used for menu control and not actual movement) and the fact that you can't see your party while moving gives it a real claustrophobic feel that people just don't like. It's the reason why all other attempts at revitalizing OLD SCHOOL Dungeons Crawlers essentially failed.

There's been so much advancement in the genre from a mechanical standpoint that to try and reject persona fully would mean to cripple the gameplay.

People basically just like SMT for the art style, but try finishing shit to 100% completion like you would a persona game. Noctourne is notorious for needing save states because the demon fusing is a lottery.

If they want to make SMT have broad appeal they need to use persona's demon fusing mechanics and how they do the bargaining. Make it a full on 3D dungeon and have the Overworld be fully explorable like Dragon Quest 11 or Final Fantasy did it. Also make the 3 endings quantifiers Law, Neutral, and Chaos be visible at all times so people can change their allegiance by making informed decisions and tie that to shit like quests. Because another thing people have zero tolerance for is unknowingly getting into an end state and missing shit.
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Im pretty sure this is off topic but ill bite
Marissa Moira said:
I hate to break it to you, but most of SMT really doesn't have any core unique mechanics compared to other wizardry clones.
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Megami tensei and anothet jrpg that i forgot the name of invented and made popular the whole genre of recruiting enemies to fight alongiside you.
Withough them you wouldnt even have shit like pokemon

Marissa Moira said:
First person Dungeon crawlers are more or less a relic of the past. Being able to move in 4 directions is something that really puts off people(also the fact that Dpads are now mistly used for menu control and not actual movement) and the fact that you can't see your party while moving gives it a real claustrophobic feel that people just don't like. It's the reason why all other attempts at revitalizing OLD SCHOOL Dungeons Crawlers essentially failed.
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They used the first person due to limitations of its time, and hasnt been a thing since nocturne (not counting strange journey, because that was a deliverate return to roots game)

Marissa Moira said:
There's been so much advancement in the genre from a mechanical standpoint that to try and reject persona fully would mean to cripple the gameplay.
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Persona hasnt added jack shit to the formula other than a i win/do a lot of damage button
It still uses the barebones digital devil saga system, and even then DDS manages to be more complex than both shitsona 4 and 5

Marissa Moira said:
People basically just like SMT for the art style, but try finishing shit to 100% completion like you would a persona game.
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Doing a 100% smt game no matter if its mainline/spinoffs is tedious due to requiring fussion accidents to get some of the demons and you are pretty autistic or bordeline stupid to even consider the compedium a requirement for 100%

Marissa Moira said:
Noctourne is notorious for needing save states because the demon fusing is a lottery.
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Its not a lottery, there are recipies that still carry back from smt 1 to get certain demons, unless you want to say its a lottety to get the skills you want on the demon you want.
And even then that was so you wouldnt relly on a single demon for the entire game and to experiment with your party composition, seeing as how these games would be easy to break if you could just get what you wanted (see how easy it is to break golden/smt 4/persona 5)

Marissa Moira said:
If they want to make SMT have broad appeal they need to use persona's demon fusing mechanics and how they do the bargaining.
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God you are fucking retarded, im not even gonna bother with this one

Marissa Moira said:
Make it a full on 3D dungeon and have the Overworld be fully explorable like Dragon Quest 11 or Final Fantasy did it.
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The overworld has been fully explorable since smt 1, and they have made them 3d since fucking nocturne


Marissa Moira said:
Also make the 3 endings quantifiers Law, Neutral, and Chaos be visible at all times so people can change their allegiance by making informed decisions and tie that to shit like quests. Because another thing people have zero tolerance for is unknowingly getting into an end state and missing shit.
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That shit is already in since the allegiances were introduced, and you do realize chaos/nootral/law arent your typical good/i dunno/bad answers right?
Besides, you can check which alliance you are by the rotation of your character icon, and every fucking game that has the alliances tells you this
Tl/dr: jesus christ you are dumb, play one of those games instead of spewing shit you heard on twitter
 
the autist of dojima said:
Im pretty sure this is off topic but ill bite
Megami tensei and anothet jrpg that i forgot the name of invented and made popular the whole genre of recruiting enemies to fight alongiside you.
Withough them you wouldnt even have shit like pokemon


They used the first person due to limitations of its time, and hasnt been a thing since nocturne (not counting strange journey, because that was a deliverate return to roots game)


Persona hasnt added jack shit to the formula other than a i win/do a lot of damage button
It still uses the barebones digital devil saga system, and even then DDS manages to be more complex than both shitsona 4 and 5


Doing a 100% smt game no matter if its mainline/spinoffs is tedious due to requiring fussion accidents to get some of the demons and you are pretty autistic or bordeline stupid to even consider the compedium a requirement for 100%


Its not a lottery, there are recipies that still carry back from smt 1 to get certain demons, unless you want to say its a lottety to get the skills you want on the demon you want.
And even then that was so you wouldnt relly on a single demon for the entire game and to experiment with your party composition, seeing as how these games would be easy to break if you could just get what you wanted (see how easy it is to break golden/smt 4/persona 5)


God you are fucking retarded, im not even gonna bother with this one


The overworld has been fully explorable since smt 1, and they have made them 3d since fucking nocturne



That shit is already in since the allegiances were introduced, and you do realize chaos/nootral/law arent your typical good/i dunno/bad answers right?
Besides, you can check which alliance you are by the rotation of your character icon, and every fucking game that has the alliances tells you this
Tl/dr: jesus christ you are dumb, play one of those games instead of spewing shit you heard on twitter
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Recruiting enemies to fight along side you was done in Might and Magic and even Ultima/Ultima Underworld. And I was counting Strange Journey because I bought that and it's relatively recent remaster. I've got the whole set of 3DS and DS SMT games. I mean outside of those non-numbered games the only other one would be 4 and 4A. You could even go as far back as Pen and Paper because D&D certainly allowed for enemy recruitment and summons.

And they're not fully explorable since they're still based on a series of corridors. Hallways are honestly garbage environments TekWar proved that decades ago, even if it the graphics look like an open city it's still a fucking hallway.

I mean geez people rag on the fucking Tales of series for having most of it's dungeosn be some variation of Square connected with Hallway. Fucking Zesteria did that in spades and that's still the type of dungeon that SMT shits out.
 
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What I'm generally gathering from Mangs callout is that the guy needs to check himself into Alcoholics Anonymous because he seems to get into "so drunk I tell a friend about how I wanna fuck her tits" states a lot. Literally a good chunk of this callout wouldn't of happened if he hadn't gotten punch drunk all the damn time.
 
So guys, how the hell did Infiltration survive this shit? Is it Korean law? Did he just lawyer up really hard and fuck everyone in the ass ala UltraDavid's recounting of events? That guy's a beast.
 
Violent Ken Apologist said:
What's the opinion on Jisu, folks?
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She's out for blood and won't stop until Zero's wearing a rope necklace. She clearly hasn't gotten any effective therapy, regardless of what she says about having been hospitalized after the events of SkyHouse.


Anyway I know it was posted lightly a couple pages back, but I want to bring attention back to Piggy, one of the people responsible for Ally's permaban and Zack's 5 year turned 1 ban. This whole string of tweets is fucking wild.

Zack, ever the permanently scarred victim, teaming up with his abuser? To take down one of the only people publically willing to acknowledge Zack's many many many waving manipulative red flags? Say it ain't so!

It also seems that Salem might get away with his part in Zack's aggressive sexuality at 15. Defenders and Salem really seem to be focusing in on the whole "didn't know Nairo was legal" thing, as if that makes it better to call two minors' very detailed sexual exploits "cute" and egg them on. Like, getting minors to feel comfortable talking in wildly sexual terms is step number one on internet savvy groomer checklist. Not saying that Salem is outright a groomer or pedo, but ffs the actions taken were those of one. There's a very good argument to be made for the theory that his actions directly led to Zack being a "victim" of two adult men.

Can't say I'm surprised but neither am I entirely apathetic to the response.
 
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Can I write hot takes here since this isn't twitter or shit? Aite, feel free to tear me down for this one but Zack always looked like a crazy manipulative sociopathic nutcase who blackmails everyone and can't get his mind off of fucking people and I bet you anything in a few years he'll either make the same mistake or end up in an almost comparably screwy scandal. His personality has no self control and I don't feel like chalking the entirety of that up to him being a kid.
 
LucasSomething said:
Sky with the backdown


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Did this nigga just bring up Reckful's suicide to make himself look more of a victim?

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I'm rereading the whole thing trying to make a tl;dr but sky talks like a maniac trying to gaslight me in the middle of the conversation. Sky speech goes like this

1-"The pain i caused other is undeniable. I wont make a google docs statement and i dont want things to go back."
2- "The pain i caused to others pains ME deeply. Because i have depression and also reckful died so i got depressed too."
3-"i'tried my best to help people and failed. All i can do now is pay my debt and help them again!"
4-"Actions speak louder. I will let you be the judge after i help all of them."
5-"But i dont deserve to get canceled over this. You should wait until i release the google docs statement. It'll drop anytime now..."

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It's all manipulations and promises.
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"This is like paying rent at Sky Williams' house"
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