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Gingervitis said:
I love how there are people that are immediately thinking about Smash as a competative game. Meanwhile, my friends and I have made a pact to not only allow all items, but to set them to the highest setting. Excluding the No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination match, of course.
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Even as a joyless tryhard myself, the game is insanely fun with items and the goofy stages. I've gotten people who genuinely only saw Smash for its competitive value to try out items and fun stages and they started having little "breaks" from playing the game seriously to just cut loose and turn on silly setups.

From my personal experience, tryhards who can also play the game with items on while using random characters and playing gimmicky stages tend to be better players anyway since it allows them to practice adaptability. It also helps maintain their passion because it stops the game from going from a fun experience to a chore. People who refuse to enjoy the game in its wackiest form are boring husks of human beings.

Anyway, enough about that. A little update of Vergeben from the general Smash thread. He's backpedaling even more, saying that a Cubivore spirit tricked him into believing Minecraft was represented in the game as a playable character at launch playable character as DLC in-game boss in-game spirit whatever the hell it's supposed to be, now. Because it's so easy to confuse a .jpg of a pig for a playable character from a completely unrelated franchise, you see.

I haven't been paying much attention to Vergeben, so I'm not sure if people are still believing him after him being outed as a fraud again. But I wouldn't doubt people still do.

Archeops said:
Oh boy, two prominent YouTube channels are being taken down due to uploading music from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. I had a feeling this would happen to 'em...

Also, /v/ has been making memes of Virgenben's "insiders" confusing Cubivore content for Minecraft content.

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And do you know what's even funnier? Even with all the instances of him getting BTFO'd he still said there would be some form of Minecraft content in the base game until the bosses were datamined. Now he's being eerily silent regarding the whole thing.
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_01 said:
Anyway, enough about that. A little update of Vergeben from the general Smash thread. He's backpedaling even more, saying that a Cubivore spirit tricked him into believing Minecraft was represented in the game as a playable character at launch playable character as DLC in-game boss in-game spirit whatever the hell it's supposed to be, now. Because it's so easy to confuse a .jpg of a pig for a playable character from a completely unrelated franchise, you see.

I haven't been paying much attention to Vergeben, so I'm not sure if people are still believing him after him being outed as a fraud again. But I wouldn't doubt people still do.
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I think at this point, people just believe him for the sake of it. I mean, most of these autists still haven't faced the facts that their anime waifus aren't getting in this game, so they latch on to every leak video they can find, no matter how idiotic it is, just so they can have that glimmer of hope, otherwise they would have a big meltdown.

in short:

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Minecraft is sucessful enough to be a "logical" choice but it's made by western devs so it might as well be impossible.

Tho, i would unironically love to see minecraft Steve in smash just to see the huge saltstorm it would bring.
 
Hui said:
Smash isn't even a fighting game. https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013...nt-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/ But Melee autists gotta autist.
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I remember a lot of people from the FGC use that as excuse to exclude smash from being in Evo it was something to see salt coming from both sides. Anyways I see smash and games like it to be more its own kind of niche of a fighting game than something like Street fighter or Tekken etc like how there different types of a RPG game not every fighting game is required to be like the above 2 but that just my 2 cents on it.
 
Hui said:
Smash isn't even a fighting game. https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013...nt-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/ But Melee autists gotta autist.
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Lol I think it's more the audience than the game that excludes Smash from the FGC. The FGC embraces games like WindJammers and Catherine because people who play those games also play Street Fighter/Tekken/etc.
Smash players come to tournaments with their hot moms and don't play any game that doesn't have Mario and Peach in it.
 
JackDavis said:
Lol I think it's more the audience than the game that excludes Smash from the FGC. The FGC embraces games like WindJammers and Catherine because people who play those games also play Street Fighter/Tekken/etc.
Smash players come to tournaments with their hot moms and don't play any game that doesn't have Mario and Peach in it.
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There's still salt to this day between the proper FGC and the Smash communities, and there's very little common ground.

- Smash community holds very little reverence for EVO, because while it's the "main" FGC tournament it's small compared to other tournaments and the pot size is not remarkably large. 1st Place for SFV is roughly $50,000 compared to 1st Place for Smash is roughly $12k or less (depending on the game, and year). For Smash players, it's just another tournament and one they don't care much about.

- Smash is very fragmented (Smash Melee, Smash 64, Project M, Smash 4) and as a result depending on the year will be relegated to "side game" status; for example in 2016 Smash 4 with 2,600 entrants was a Saturday final, compared to UMVC3 with 700 and Guilty Gear XRD with 900. Smash players feel that despite being the single largest part of the community that they aren't treated as such. The FGC hates how much bigger the Smash tourney pool/audience is.

- Both communities claim that the other is stagnant and they're both correct. Smash and the FGC will routinely have the same winners and Top 8 entrants year over year. In Street Fighter for example, it's considered an upset when a Non-Japanese player makes top 8. For DBZF/Injustice/Mortal Kombat it's routinely a furry (sometimes in a god-damn fursuit) who wins and then at top 8 of familiar faces. Smash has had mainly the same top 16 for years (Armada, Mew2King, Hungrybox, etc).

- The FGC is very "esports" now despite it's grassroots origins (inside shitty arcades). As a result, the companies invest heavily and have a lot of sway over the tournaments in a very "corporate" fashion. They control the games that are played and who commentates on them. As a result FGC players will have to play games they frequently don't like (Street Fighter 4, Street Fighter 5, Ultimate + Vanilla MvC 3, MVC : Infinite, Tekken 4, Tekken 6, Soul Calibur 4, etc). Smash has no such corporate interference and as a result is free to sign up 2,000 people for Melee (from 2001) but because Nintendo isn't investing into the fighting game scene Smash will never be an "anchor" game at EVO despite being one of the larger series and biggest draws. Street Fighter fans conversely won't get major support for older games like Alpha 2, Third Strike, or MvC2. Tekken fans won't get support for Tekken 3 or Tekken Tag (although Tekken 7 and Soul Calibur 6 are pretty good).

- The communities are radically different - with the FGC being made out of Arcade culture and the Smash community existing on consoles exclusively. They don't have any common ground regarding tournaments, house rules, rivalries inside the communities or drama, casual matches, or even attitude. Smash players shockingly have more mutual respect for one another compared to FGC players, who will frequently shit-talk one another directly (American players) or indirectly (Japanese players).
 
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Alright, so I've not gone too in depth on the thread here, but if you want to talk about autism in the smash community, the sub community is absolutely rife with it
I modded it for a while and jesus, it's just full of people who either have no idea what they're talking about, like something autistic or are just flat out autistic as shit.
during my time there, there were a bunch of tards, but my favourite has got to beSlowdragon
NARPASSWORD said:
Anyone that thinks Minecraft would ever be in Smash is a lolcow.
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this is a pretty good way to start this off, SlowDragon or Slow is a self proclaimed Bipolar, Sociopathic Tranny who wants steve from minecraft to be in smash. She runs a modpack (build) of smash 4 called "Artful Phoenix" previously "Phoenix" and even earlier known as "Project Stardust" with two other people currently, Fruitmage (16~ year old kid she turned into a tranny) and Wolfmaster (never interacted with him)
There's too much dumb shit to go over for this, but Slow is a compulsive liar, there's one really fucking dumb one she made in particular, she claimed that there was a house fire when she was young, and inhaled enough smoke to permanently damage her vocal cords.
This was a Lie of course, she has perfectly functioning vocal cords and was called out on that in a VC by someone who knew her for a while longer.
Keeping the compulsive liar thing in mind, she'd signed an "agreement"(Archive link) for the project, and that agreement gives her supposed name as "Selina Cereza Murillo", don't know about the authenticity, but that's what's there.
her Twitter is pretty active, and often likes furry porn and other gay shit.
other than her spergatry, she's a bad animator and has little to no skills.
I've got some funny shit due to being in her inner circle for a while, and the way she handles conversations is downright predatory, she does pretty much anything to get her way, playing the victim, threats, you name it.
if any of you guys are interested, I'll start dropping some of my archived stuff
Attached is a pic of her without makeup, I know I'm not the only one who got it
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Wavedashing is technically back, but there's a few things that this video doesn't demonstrate (most likely intentionally) which nullifies its existence, namely that it's slow, only good on a few characters out of the cast, and is nullified by the ability to act out of dash. What this means is that you can wavedash in the new game, but why would you want to?

The funny thing is, this game does have many things technical things to actually be excited for, like the inclusion of actual combos and kill confirms so people can pretend it's a real fighting game. But rather than focus on that, people are still stuck on this physics quirk from an early game in the series which was overly centralizing that's now back and completely pointless. When asked to justify why it's even useful, the best people can say is "you can kind of sort of space a little bit." People are trying their hardest to justify a "mechanic" which is outdated, useless, and has no reason to be back just because they want the game to be Melee.

This next comment is especially wrong. In the user's videos, he uses a wavedash only as a fake out--that wasn't "spacing," and every time he tried to wavedash afterwards, he got hit for it and he eventually lost the match because of it.

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I can guaran-fucking-tee you the programmers had to hold their nose while putting Wavedashing back in. Just sitting there like "Fuck are we really pandering to these whiners?"
 
That's why I hate the smash community so much, they're not humiliated enough.

When you think about autistic fandoms usually what comes to your mind is sonic, fortnite, minecraft, those stupid ponies or any other cartoon to be honest. When you think about toxic game communities you're probably going to say League of Legends or almost any other competitive co-op game. But Smash? It's forgotten.

Smash Bros is sheer cancer. Look at these discord names:story:
 
Puar said:
https://twitter.com/shrugu702/status/1069495844825575424?s=21

Never heard of discords dedicated to a character. This is amusing.
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They're usually segmented into channels on the same Discord. They're also not helpful since all you will do is play against people playing the same character or give you advice which you can figure out yourself.

I've never heard of Discords dedicated specifically to a character, though. The fact that he had to write an application to join it just reminds me of the Brawl Club requirements.
 
my top three secret leaks (From my friend in nintendo) on hidden charecters
1. Goku
2. Naruto
3. Judge Judy

Now please watch this youtube video I made where I scream for eight hours at the trailer of this video game. Like and subscribe, nigger.
 
I don't know enough about the Smash Community to know if either of the morons highlighted in these tweets have any actual clout, but this sentiment has been repeated time and time again from smash players.

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He's got a point right? It's not like you'd expect a plumber to unclog your shitter for free just because your homies right?

No, obviously this is retarded.

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(honestly, the guy who responded to this moron went too light on him, but it's probably the only reason he got a response at all)

This stance is so unbelievably retarded that it managed to let FGC member FloE look reasonable.
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But where there is one entitled, smelly autist, there are many! It is a community after all!

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"Are we the ones acting like children? No, it's the FGC that is spoiled..."

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Honestly, I only screencapped these tweets to make it a good habbit. These smash players are absolutely shameless when it comes to this subject, and I am absolutely positive that these tweets will never be taken down.
 
Rum Runner said:
I don't know enough about the Smash Community to know if either of the morons highlighted in these tweets have any actual clout, but this sentiment has been repeated time and time again from smash players.

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He's got a point right? It's not like you'd expect a plumber to unclog your shitter for free just because your homies right?

No, obviously this is exceptional.

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(honestly, the guy who responded to this moron went too light on him, but it's probably the only reason he got a response at all)

This stance is so unbelievably exceptional that it managed to let FGC member FloE look reasonable.
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But where there is one entitled, smelly autist, there are many! It is a community after all!

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"Are we the ones acting like children? No, it's the FGC that is spoiled..."

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Honestly, I only screencapped these tweets to make it a good habbit. These smash players are absolutely shameless when it comes to this subject, and I am absolutely positive that these tweets will never be taken down.
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The guy demanding to be paid for games shows up from time to time early on in tournaments, but he doesn't really have any major victories under his belt. He's unquestionably having an ego trip right now.
 
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