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What's even the origin of people wanting anime characters like Goku/Naruto in Smash anyway? Why do they even think it would make sense for them to reach Smash?
It might have something to do with all those Smash flash fan games that have characters like Sora, Ichigo, Naruto, and Goku included, so they want the actual series to validate those fan games.
 
I know a guy who considers 64 to be the best Smash game and talks about how each Smash game besides 64 is not as good as it. He even went so far to say that Smash would be more interesting if they scrapped the entirety of the roster except for the original 8 so a lot of interesting characters get in.

The kicker is this guy complains about each Smash announcement no matter what and would probably do so unless Wonder Red gets in.
 
What's even the origin of people wanting anime characters like Goku/Naruto in Smash anyway? Why do they even think it would make sense for them to reach Smash?

I would assume that at first it was just kids thinking "Smash Bros has all these cool characters from franchises I like, and I like DBZ, and Goku is cool, so he should be in Smash!", not understanding that Smash Bros is based on Nintendo franchises.

And now it's just being memed into oblivion. I don't think a whole lot of people really think Goku is a possibility, except for some autists.
 
> Wanting Goku in Smash

You know, people who want Goku are the most interesting of the bunch to me, i mean, with people who want a somewhat obscure character like Ashley or Geno, you can tell at least some of them are sincere about their character being playable, despite how autistic they can react when said character is revealed to be an assist trophy or not being in the game at all, people who want stupid characters like Shrek, you can tell they're just fucking around and are just doing it for the memes, but people who want Goku..., i don't know, i just can't tell if they're serious or not, the idea of an anime/manga character in smash is laughable to say the least, but anime fans can be really autistic at times

Because they think that would be really cool and that's it

I personally suspect that it's because these mongoloids are among the same fans that are usually obsessed with proving power levels for characters and autistically obsessed with DBZ being the best boys in those shitttastic anime arguments. They most likely only want Goku in so they can brag about he's the strongest character ever since he can slaughter Cloud or whatever.
 
> Wanting Goku in Smash

You know, people who want Goku are the most interesting of the bunch to me, i mean, with people who want a somewhat obscure character like Ashley or Geno, you can tell at least some of them are sincere about their character being playable, despite how autistic they can react when said character is revealed to be an assist trophy or not being in the game at all, people who want stupid characters like Shrek, you can tell they're just fucking around and are just doing it for the memes, but people who want Goku..., i don't know, i just can't tell if they're serious or not, the idea of an anime/manga character in smash is laughable to say the least, but anime fans can be really autistic at times
"If Smash already went out of its way to include characters far away from Nintendo (Cloud, Ryu) then why not anime popular stuff"

Sakurai including yearly requested meme character like ridley and now KKR, is not helping either.
 
KKR and Ridley at least make sense though because it's logical to have the primary antagonists of each series to go along with the protagonists. They make a point of that in the KKR trailer by having DK flip through a bunch of stills showing all the other protagonist-antagonist pairs in the game.

Out of curiousity I looked to see how much more Goku sperging there was and it's mostly that one guy from the pic. He just doesn't give up.


Can't they just be content that FighterZ exists and is good?
 
Some high-functioning autism here. What does it matter what the name/logo is, you don't know what the fuck a "Spirits" is.

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I can't believe the Moon from Majora's Mask, a staple of Nintendo history, is an assist trophy instead of a playable character. C'mon, Nintendo.
 
speaking of iconic, I once saw an interview with sakurai about how he chooses characters to get into smash bros, and I think it sheds some light as to how realistic of a chance every character has by default. I can't find the source and it was a while ago so take this with a grain of salt.

1. Is the character iconic or has had a significant impact on the videogame scene? cultural or otherwise? If yes, it's more likely to be added.

2. Does the character have something only they can do? A move or otherwise? If yes, it's more likely to be added.

3. are they a recurring character?(implying the series has to have more than 1 game) If yes, also more likely to be added.

4. Are the creators of said characters willing to be in smash? Obviously, if no, then it will won't happen.

5. Are there still lots of fans of the series? If yes, as always, it's more likely.

6. Main characters are preferred over side characters.


There are two more I thought was in the list, but with recent additions I think he may have backtracked on them.

possibly backtracked 1: How many others from the same series is in the game? The more there are, the less likely the new character is from being added.
(This rule was probably either eliminated entirely from his consideration or he doesn't apply it to fire emblem characters, as always, the rules aren't set in stone anyway)

possibly backtracked 2: does it make sense for the character to fight in smash?

the villager makes little sense, I think he was cut out of brawl for this reason. And later added back to newer smash games
and pacman, althrough he did have a game where he brawled with other people.


There were a few more but I flat out can not remember the rest. These were the ones that stuck out to me.



I believe simon belmont hit more of these than ashley does. And serves as a useful guide for predicting future smash characters.
When I wrote them down, it really seems like common sense, doesn't it?

It makes sense but a shitload of the Smash playerbase are also giant weebs who insist that Sakurai will never add a western character to Smash due to their delusions about Japanese games being superior to filthy Western shit.

Even when he adds characters like Little Mac, Ridley, Diddy Kong, and K. Rool they'll rationalize it by claim that they're either from Japanese games (in Mac and Ridley's case, despite Metroid and Punchout being far more popular in the States/Europe than Japan) or just happen to be western creations of a Japanese franchise (in Diddy and K. Rool's case, since Rare was owned by Nintendo at the time it somehow doesn't count, despite Rare's Donkey Kong work setting the direction for the franchise in general).

They're just too blinded by weebness to realize that Nintendo is a global corporation and "global" corporations with xenophobia about anything other the home country don't tend to do well.
 
I would love to see Crash Bandicoot as a playable fighter in Smash now.
Not only because Crash is awesome, but also because his presence would cause salty bitch tears from Nintendo fanboys, Playstation fanboys, weebs, waifu-lovers, and autists obsessed with niche characters in one blow.
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN! THE SALT MUST FLOW!
 
I would love to see Crash Bandicoot as a playable fighter in Smash now.
Not only because Crash is awesome, but also because his presence would cause salty bitch tears from Nintendo fanboys, Playstation fanboys, weebs, waifu-lovers, and autists obsessed with niche characters in one blow.
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN! THE SALT MUST FLOW!

Well they already included Sonic, who was considered to be Mario's greatest rival, so i think Crash is not entirely out of question

There was a time when i used to like the idea of characters such as Kratos of even Master Chief being in Smash solely to see the reaction of Smash fans, god, i remember that time when Snake was revealed to be playable in Brawl, many Nintendo fans went nuts, saying "Sony is damaging Smash's image, they need to remove Snake from the game!"
 
I would love to see Crash Bandicoot as a playable fighter in Smash now.
Not only because Crash is awesome, but also because his presence would cause salty bitch tears from Nintendo fanboys, Playstation fanboys, weebs, waifu-lovers, and autists obsessed with niche characters in one blow.
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN! THE SALT MUST FLOW!
I was bitter Crash and Spyro didn't show up in PlayStation All-Stars despite the fact they were arguably the mascots for PlayStation 1, so I would sort of like to see them get some love in Smash.

It will never happen, mind you, but it is cool to think about.
 
If somebody deserves a representative in Smash Is Bethesda with Doom Guy/ Doomslayer, not only is he iconic as fuck, but bethesda been the most suportive western 3rd party to Switch (comung from being one of the biggest criticizers of WiiU)
 
Given that they’ve got songs grouped by series rather than by stage and the whole protagonist/antagonist thing going on I’d be mildly surprised if any newcomers were from a series that isn’t already represented in Smash. Easiest bet would be Sephiroth given his popularity and how he’s shown up in a handful of other spinoffs already. Plus we’d get a bunch of butthurt over him being yet another sword character and get to play 8-player pikachu 300% stock matches with one winged angel in the background.

Some more SF2 representation would be cool too. M. Bison could be fun.
 
Well they already included Sonic, who was considered to be Mario's greatest rival, so i think Crash is not entirely out of question

There was a time when i used to like the idea of characters such as Kratos of even Master Chief being in Smash solely to see the reaction of Smash fans, god, i remember that time when Snake was revealed to be playable in Brawl, many Nintendo fans went nuts, saying "Sony is damaging Smash's image, they need to remove Snake from the game!"

I don’t think Nintendo fans were the ones salty about that, sounds like something Sony fans would say
 
I don’t think Nintendo fans were the ones salty about that, sounds like something Sony fans would say

They were, i used to post on a Nintendo forum back then, but you're still right, many Metal Gear fans were also upset, they didn't like the idea of a "serious" character like Snake being in party game, but it was fun for a while seeing the butthurt from both sides
 
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