🐱 Star Wars has a Luke Skywalker problem

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The Book of Boba Fett — much like all of Disney’s current and future Star Wars shows — has a Luke Skywalker problem. And it’s one that no amount of expensive CGI technology can solve.


Spoilers for The Book of Boba Fett, episode six ahead

The issue goes something like this: Luke is, obviously, a hugely important character to Star Wars as a franchise. Star Wars’ current plan for its future is heavily focused on Disney Plus TV shows set in the post-Return of the Jedi era, like The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, set five years after Return of the Jedi, where Luke is roughly 28 years old.

Mark Hamill — who is still portraying Skywalker — is 70, meaning that a vast array of de-aging technology and body doubles are needed to allow the actor to practically portray a character two and a half times younger. But Star Wars’ tendency for nostalgia is quickly becoming an issue, particularly as the de-aged Skywalker is given a more and more prominent role in the story.

From an emotional perspective, I fully understand Lucasfilm’s desire to keep Hamill in the role as long as possible. Skywalker’s brief appearance in The Mandalorian season two’s finale was a fantastic moment for fans, and a perfect chance for Hamill to get to play the character in his prime one last time — it’s Luke Skywalker! Here to rescue you! — cutting down armies of battle droids. But the moment worked in part due to its brevity, with the de-aged actor appearing more of as a cameo at the end, rather than a key part of the episode.

But the latest episode of The Book of Boba Fettspends almost half its runtime with the uncanny, blank visage of Mark Hamill’s frozen 1983 face. Scenes feel awkwardly cut to long perspectives and odd shots of characters running to (presumably) give over-taxed animators a break. Even then the result is still a poor simulacrum. There’s almost no emotion or humanity in the part-CGI’s Luke’s face; he rarely cracks a smile, and even brief flares of frustration or disappointment never quite reach his eyes.

This isn’t to belittle Hamill’s performance here, or that of Lucasfilm’s animation team: the efforts here are a long way forward from the plastic-y rendition of Peter Cushing’s Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One, for example. But it’s hard not to feel that the episode would have gotten a lot more mileage out of simply admitting the fact that Hamill isn’t 29 anymore, and that recasting the role with a younger actor would have allowed for a more dynamic performance (in addition to cutting down on the hours of CGI makeup that the current setups presumably needs).

And while Hamill’s portrayal of Skywalker is — and forever will be — the definitive version of the character, pretending that recasting a new actor to play a younger version of iconic Star Wars characters is some kind of sacred line that must never be crossed is also ridiculous.

The franchise already has done exactly that: the spinoff prequel Solo recast Han Solo with Alden Ehrenreich and Lando Calrissian with Donald Glover. Different performances, sure, than those of Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams, but also ones that accepted that Ford and Williams were not the best choices to play the 20-something versions of their iconic characters anymore. And whatever criticisms one might make of Ehrenreich’s and Glover’s performances, it’s undeniable that Solo’s recast characters are far more compelling to watch on screen than the stiff de-aged deepfakes that Star Wars has started to gravitate towards.

Recasting younger actors for prequels also doesn’t mean that the original actors can’t still portray older versions of their characters in future installments, too. Ford and Williams both returned to delight fans in appearances as the older iterations of Han and Lando in The Rise of Skywalker, for example. And it’s a no-brainer to assume that Hamill would continue to portray Luke for stories that feature the older version of the Jedi Master (as he did in the sequel trilogy of films).

But if Star Wars insists on staying firmly in the franchise’s past, instead of forging onward into the post-Rise of Skywalker future of the series’ timeline — as the current crop of shows seems intent on doing — then it’s going to have to acknowledge at some point that while its storylines might be stuck in the post-80s era of the franchise, time doesn’t stop for anyone else.

And if Luke Skywalker is going to continue to be a crucial part of Star Wars’ future, the franchise needs to start thinking about how it’ll pass the torch of the character to a new generation.
 
Star Wars doesn't have a Luke Skywalker problem; Star Wars has a writing problem, as in, none of you Disney motherfuckers can write a decent story/script.

Star Wars should have been a license to print money. You had a good 10-20 years of animated movies and TV based on the EU alone.

A Knights of the Old Republic live action movie, done properly would have cemented Star Wars for the millennials and the zoomers.

But I repeat, you motherfuckers at Disney CANNOT. WRITE. A. STORY. So we got Rey Palpawalker. And Solo. And a Boba Fett who looks like he needs a nap and a geritol.
 
Mark Hamill — who is still portraying Skywalker — is 70, meaning that a vast array of de-aging technology and body doubles are needed to allow the actor to practically portray a character two and a half times younger. But Star Wars’ tendency for nostalgia is quickly becoming an issue, particularly as the de-aged Skywalker is given a more and more prominent role in the story.

I liked The Irishman. I would watch a TV series with Al Pacino as Hoffa just doing everyday things. Yes the technology used was a bit creepy. But once perfected I think it won't be as bad and will become more commonplace. It's cheaper to use one actor.

These newfag fans are always complaining about the nostalgia. Like it or not, Luke is the beloved hero of the series and is going to be seen that way for a long time. Back in the 70s and 80s Star Wars fans were belittled and called nerds, which was not a compliment like it is now. Yes, kiddies. There was a time when being a nerd wasn't cool. Then again y'all are fake "lol so nerdy" anyway.


But if Star Wars insists on staying firmly in the franchise’s past, instead of forging onward into the post-Rise of Skywalker future of the series’ timeline — as the current crop of shows seems intent on doing — then it’s going to have to acknowledge at some point that while its storylines might be stuck in the post-80s era of the franchise, time doesn’t stop for anyone else.
And if Luke Skywalker is going to continue to be a crucial part of Star Wars’ future, the franchise needs to start thinking about how it’ll pass the torch of the character to a new generation.

Let people have their OG Skywalker while Hamil still can do it and STFU already.


>character is finally portrayed as he should have been all along
>hum, yikes, [brand] has a [character] problem

Fuck these guys. The show isn't made for them anyway.

They are trying to gatekeep something that isn't theirs. Again.
 
The show isn't made for them anyway.
Whenever they come in and take over something, ruining it, they go "ITS NOT FOR YOU!!!" but if anything in the world exists that doesn't specifically cater to them, they start reeeing about how problematic it is and discrimination, blah blah blah.
 
>The franchise already has done exactly that: the spinoff prequel Solo recast Han Solo with Alden Ehrenreich and Lando Calrissian with Donald Glover.

And that went over great, didn't it?
Glover was accepted but fans hated Ehrenreich because there was another actor who had a far better resemblance to Harrison Ford (and even worked with Ford on another movie project playing a younger version of his character in the film) but said actor didn't get the job because Kathleen Kennedy is BFFs with Spielberg (who's support she has most likely been leaning on to avoid rightfully getting fired from SW) and Ehrenreich is Spielberg's personal pet project actor ever since he met him at a Bar Mitzvah where Ehrenreich most likely gave Spielberg the best head he's had in ages, to the extent that Spielberg promised to reward his young dicksucker with a career in acting, even though he has no talent (something that the Cohen Brothers ruthlessly played up in "Hail Ceasar!".
 
I think the reality is that these journoswine are upset that Luke Skywalker is still more popular than their hot new characters, like Elderly Mechanic Lady, Elderly Blacksmith Lore Dump Lady, and Elderly Chinese Sniper Lady.
 
It died a good death in 1983, despite the E-Wokes. Ok, they were super goofy looking, but having Sasquatch as one of the main characters in the original was also a bit of goofiness that everyone agreed to overlook. And the original really did break the glass ceiling because the golden robot was obviously super gay at a time when gays had just two accents - American Gay or educated British.

Then, like Frankenstein they decided to necro bump the series in 1999. There was loads of politically incorrect crap with the flying rat playing the part of the Jew, the lizard man with long ears playing the part of black people, and one of the podracers was obviously a Mexican julio. But it had a cool fight scene between two jedis and the cousin of Pinhead.

Then it died another glorious death with Vader slipping into the lava (the origin of "the floor is lava" game).

Then it was necrobumped again.

And just like clones, every time you make a copy of a copy the clone is that much more stupid, until it becomes a complete retarded mess. And it was/is.

Can't Boba Fett just be a cutthroat killer with super cool armor he designed himself instead of some stupid holy brotherhood? And can't the Force just be space magic without having medi-evil-chloriens making sense out of the whole thing?
 
Y’all already got his mini-me on contract:

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Just use Sebastian Stan. If you really want to make money off this shipwreck y’all could start right there and *bring back Mara Jade*.

As a redhead.

Maybe Luke saving Groku was a critical moment and in a previous timeline he didn’t but now it’s fixed and since he did it, it undoes all the bullshit that later become the sequel series. It’ll be great because the change is driven by Mando making good choices. I just corrected things for you Disney, you’re welcome.
Love sebby but no. Lol. We really don't need more Luke. His story has already been told.

Also they really should have done an episode exploring Fennec Shand's origins. Ming Na is fantastic but they haven't given her shit to do yet aside from the episode showing how they met.
 
Why is everyone still so invested in a Buck Rogers knockoff?

EDIT- Make that Flash Gordon, not that it alters my point any.
 
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Y’all already got his mini-me on contract:

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Just use Sebastian Stan. If you really want to make money off this shipwreck y’all could start right there and *bring back Mara Jade*.

As a redhead.

Maybe Luke saving Groku was a critical moment and in a previous timeline he didn’t but now it’s fixed and since he did it, it undoes all the bullshit that later become the sequel series. It’ll be great because the change is driven by Mando making good choices. I just corrected things for you Disney, you’re welcome.
If they wanted to make money they just need to adapt Heir To The Empire and it's sequels. Cast a smoking hot redhead as Mara Jade and find other lookalikes.

Why is everyone still so invested in a Buck Rogers knockoff?

EDIT- Make that Flash Gordon, not that it alters my point any.
Flash Gordon was inspired by Buck Rogers so you're still correct.
 
I think the reality is that these journoswine are upset that Luke Skywalker is still more popular than their hot new characters, like Elderly Mechanic Lady, Elderly Blacksmith Lore Dump Lady, and Elderly Chinese Sniper Lady.
The jounos aren’t even run of the mill consoomers. They just watch whatever is on streaming with the directive to watch what’s a popular property. They don’t want to watch it. So they’ll bitch it’s doesn’t fit their standards
 
If they wanted to make money they just need to adapt Heir To The Empire and it's sequels. Cast a smoking hot redhead as Mara Jade and find other lookalikes.


Flash Gordon was inspired by Buck Rogers so you're still correct.
I could’ve sworn they were fucking around with Thrawn...animated I know but I thought also live action because I’ve been waiting to hear the casting shortlist that will consist of Idris Elba, Daniel Kaluuya, and some other British-African because the American entertainment industry likes them better than American blacks.
 
Shut up and fuck off, journo scum. Leave my nostalgia escapism space opera the fuck alone. Disney is doing much better with Star Wars now that Kennedy has no say in creative decisions and Favreau and Feloni are at the helm.
 
>The franchise already has done exactly that: the spinoff prequel Solo recast Han Solo with Alden Ehrenreich and Lando Calrissian with Donald Glover.

And that went over great, didn't it?

Well, idk, Solo was a much better movie than any of the new main-plotline installments.
 
The jounos aren’t even run of the mill consoomers. They just watch whatever is on streaming with the directive to watch what’s a popular property. They don’t want to watch it. So they’ll bitch it’s doesn’t fit their standards
Like how game journos dont even know how to play videogames and actually hate videogames but IGN/Kotaku/whatever is the only job they could get with their 100k student loan doctorate in being babysat through their 20s typing.

These people hate all this pop nerd stuff, but its what sells, instead of essays about why tranny dick is delicious, so they try to twist and mutate this stuff to fit them. Why so much stuff keeps going woke, even when it leads to bankruptcy; see the comic industry (actual comics, not the media based on them).
 
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