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I really wish Disney would release the complete scores to each film. I know we got the OT and TMP ages ago but they are long out of print and never got AOTC or ROTS or the ST or the stand alone movies or tv shows. Say what you want about the story and writing of the Disney era stuff, but the production value of Star Wars has a whole has always been top notch, especially the John Williams music.
I absolutely agree with you on the scores. It would be a great idea to put into circulation all of the complete scores, no matter the film. Even with my distastes of the Disney era (and I admit, I felt Williams' material for the Sequels weren't up-to-par compared to what he produced for the Original or the Prequels), it'd be a good idea just to have material out there no matter what. Subpar Williams is still good. As for whomever else scored the stand-alone movies (their names currently escape me and I'm too lazy to look them up), it'd be nice to hear everything from everyone.

You know, it'd be even better if they went one hell of a step further. Release everything. By that I mean, complete scores. Unused pieces left on the cutting room floor if they still exist. The old, edited tracks from the original incomplete albums. Obscure and rare pieces of music that were only released for a time and now hard to get. For example, get back out Urth's Lapti Nek Overture that was released as a single back in 1983. A bit of reminiscing but I recall listing to that single LP on my parent's record player when they got it for me as a kid back in the 80's.

I know this some of this stuff is probably on Youtube or unofficial downloads but get it out there in high quality. They wouldn't even need to have physical releases if they wanted. Go digital exclusive if they're worried about sells projections.

However, they'd rather just sit on it and do nothing. Hoard and hoard. Get no use out of it. I'd go on a rant but I better not. That's a larger entertainment industry problem (be it film, video games, literature, etc). Too damn lazy and stupid to make easy money.
 
The reason why people think The Forse Unleashed is OP is that the game put into easily digestible visual forms assuptions about the power level of characters that slowly became accepted in various parts of EU. Compare what characters do in the prequel movies with that they do in the prequel novellizations, for example. TFU had one big Force feat, by Palps, of course, melting a substantial part of the Death Star by Force Lightning, but that too is not especially badass compared to previous extreme outlier Force feats, including fleet-mashing Force Storms from Palpatine himself.
 
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The reason why people think The Forse Unleashed is OP is that the game put into easily digestible visual forms assuptions about the power level of characters that slowly became accepted in various parts of EU. Compare what characters do in the prequel movies with that they do in the prequel novellizations, for example. TFU had one big Force feat, by Palps, of course, melting a substantial part of the Death Star by Force Lightning, but that too is not especially badass compared to previous extreme outlier Force feats, including fleet-mashing Force Storms from Palpatineh himself.
Or the EU equivalent of padawans and a few Knights teleporting 17 Imperial-II Star Destroyers from orbit around Yavin IV to the outer fringes of the system because the Force can do anything lol
 
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The reason why people think The Forse Unleashed is OP is that the game put into easily digestible visual forms assuptions about the power level of characters that slowly became accepted in various parts of EU. Compare what characters do in the prequel movies with that they do in the prequel novellizations, for example. TFU had one big Force feat, by Palps, of course, melting a substantial part of the Death Star by Force Lightning, but that too is not especially badass compared to previous extreme outlier Force feats, including fleet-mashing Force Storms from Palpatine himself.
I remember in the ROTS novel, when Anakin walked in on Mace and Palpatine dueling, all he saw were DBZ-style blurs, since both engaged in Force Speed and were too fast for the naked eye.

And again, even if you're just judging it purely from the movies, Palpatine's focused lightning blast just knocked back Yoda and slightly burned Luke, whereas it killed Starkiller. They still established that their Sith Kratos expy is not as durable as the main characters from the movies. He's only able to pull off great feats because he trained for a decade, with Vader as a master. He has greater mastery, but Luke and Yoda have greater potential and durability. And Luke trained for less than half the time Starkiller trained and still went from student to master.

Sabine's whole story in Rebels was to show that even someone with no Force powers, just the right training, attitude, and equipment, can be just as useful as a Jedi. Hell, you'd think Kanan would've picked up on Sabine's Force-sensitivity and trained her along with Ezra if she was Force-sensitive at the time. This just lends more credence to the rumor that Filoni rushed to make Sabine Force-sensitive because if he didn't, Grogu would be the first on-screen Mandalorian Jedi, and Filoni didn't want that.

You know, it'd be even better if they went one hell of a step further. Release everything. By that I mean, complete scores. Unused pieces left on the cutting room floor if they still exist. The old, edited tracks from the original incomplete albums. Obscure and rare pieces of music that were only released for a time and now hard to get. For example, get back out Urth's Lapti Nek Overture that was released as a single back in 1983. A bit of reminiscing but I recall listing to that single LP on my parent's record player when they got it for me as a kid back in the 80's.
Disney could easily gain the love of the fans if they re-released the Original Trilogy, uncut, without the special edition stuff. Yes, no singing ROTJ aliens, Han shooting first, all that jazz. The fans have wanted that for eons and Lucas told them to get fucked, because he kept selling the Special Edition as the definitive version of Star Wars, and fans disagreed with him.
 
Replayed Jedi Academy on Jedi Master because it's been a few years. Went with dualies and had the worst time with Alora's second fight. Stupid bitch just one-shots you sometimes and has so much goddamn health. The saber staff Jedi were also a pain in the ass because they could instant kill with butterfly. Had to potshot them with saber throws until they went down. Kyle felt so much easier this time around because he wasn't killing me with absolute bullshit despite having an unavoidable saber pull move and expert teenage beating skills.

Does anyone actually spare Rosh? The Dark Side ending and version of the final level is so much better.
oh god
nuwars just gets worse as it goes on that it even ruins what was passable before
 
It's crazy to think that Star Wars has been so mismanaged due to trying to reach a "wider audience" despite Star Wars was the biggest mass appeal fantasy franchises in existence. Disney tried to heavily feminize Star Wars because all it seems to make this days is girl projects in spite of acquiring Star Wars, Pixar, and Marvel to shore up the boys content they lacked.
 
It's crazy to think that Star Wars has been so mismanaged due to trying to reach a "wider audience" despite Star Wars was the biggest mass appeal fantasy franchises in existence. Disney tried to heavily feminize Star Wars because all it seems to make this days is girl projects in spite of acquiring Star Wars, Pixar, and Marvel to shore up the boys content they lacked.
women don't like sci-fi/fantasy
women don't like adventure
women don't like action

women love pointless drama and glorified coombait (but it's totally not degenerate)

in other words, women don't like star wars or comicbooks
 
women don't like sci-fi/fantasy
women don't like adventure
women don't like action

women love pointless drama and glorified coombait (but it's totally not degenerate)

in other words, women don't like star wars or comicbooks
All that is true, and yet Star Wars still had a sizable female fan base for a Sci-fi setting. Goes to show how badly they cocked up their reach.
 
Everyone now being a Jedi, what a surprise.

The Sabine character was sort of interesting when the Rebels show started and the idea of Kanaan (I think thats his name) being a blaster carrying force user was extremely neat at the time. This Filoni influence with all of his characters living forever and being Jedi is so beyond annoying.

As far as women not liking sci-fi and fantasy, this is true to an extent, but they do like strong male characters and hate other female characters. Years ago when all the disney wars stuff was imploding I would post about the experience with my young daughters. They liked the OT and they liked Rogue One but were utterly uninterested in the ST, they actually told me they thought the characters were ugly and strange (I know evil little racists). They could relate to the female character being aided by a "father" or a strong male interest, or acting as a care giver and even a leader (many forget that Leia was in command at Hoth in ESB directing military forces but not running through the trenches herself) and they liked this. For a traditional family this is what females relate to.

They saw a "girl boss" doing everything as unnatural and it did not make sense to them. Social engineering does not work and cant overcome thousands of years of human experience when it comes to gender roles. This is why modern media continues to fail.
 
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All that is true, and yet Star Wars still had a sizable female fan base for a Sci-fi setting. Goes to show how badly they cocked up their reach.
only because it was so popular
now that it's out of the mainstream zeitgeist, you won't hear a fucking word about it from them
 
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All that is true, and yet Star Wars still had a sizable female fan base for a Sci-fi setting. Goes to show how badly they cocked up their reach.
The difference between drawing and keeping male and female interest isn't that large really imo. Outside of the obvious, most women can't be interested and kept with actionactionaction, most men can't be interested and kept with romanceromanceromance. If you have beautiful women but a story with not much male-interest stuff going on, men will be interested and remain interested in the beautiful women, and that's about it. They have other options that have a story with their interests and beautiful women both. If you have handsome men and a story with not much female-interest stuff going on, women will be interested and remain interested in the handsome men, and that's about it. They have other options that have a story with their interests and handsome men both. Take Titanic. Men get a little conflict, a little action and adventure, and Kate Winslet. Women get Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane, and a romance-focused story. There's stuff for both, but a lot more for women

The Star Wars OT is more general. Conflict, action-adventure, fantastic creatures, magic, romance, Leia, Han, Lando. Mark Hammill obviously wasn't as handsome as Harrison Ford or Billy Dee Williams but he wasn't fugly. It's more male-oriented, but there's more balance to it than a lot of entertainment. Women get three main characters to be attracted to, men get one. Men get a lot of conflict and action and adventure and fantasy, women get a moderate amount of romance (in ESB and ROTJ. Look at the ESB Style A and Style B theatrical release posters. Way moreso in Style A duh, but Han and Leia are an item in both). There's more stuff for men in Star Wars, but more stuff for women in Star Wars than men get in Titanic
 
women don't like sci-fi/fantasy
women don't like adventure
women don't like action

women love pointless drama and glorified coombait (but it's totally not degenerate)

in other words, women don't like star wars or comicbooks
Women like bad boys. Han not so much, but I saw quite a fanfare for Prequels Anakin among the female demographic. Let's just say........more than a few women would've killed to switch places with Padme and have Anakin choke them; and their response to it wouldn't be dying from a lack of will to live, but instead, the words "harder, daddy.........."

It's crazy to think that Star Wars has been so mismanaged due to trying to reach a "wider audience" despite Star Wars was the biggest mass appeal fantasy franchises in existence. Disney tried to heavily feminize Star Wars because all it seems to make this days is girl projects in spite of acquiring Star Wars, Pixar, and Marvel to shore up the boys content they lacked.
They could've just done a "best hits" of female Jedi from the SWEU and filled their quota of female badasses for decades to come. Instead, they destroyed the franchise lore, then destroyed themselves when their Sequels had all the planning of a schizophrenic driver.

Replayed Jedi Academy on Jedi Master because it's been a few years. Went with dualies and had the worst time with Alora's second fight. Stupid bitch just one-shots you sometimes and has so much goddamn health. The saber staff Jedi were also a pain in the ass because they could instant kill with butterfly. Had to potshot them with saber throws until they went down. Kyle felt so much easier this time around because he wasn't killing me with absolute bullshit despite having an unavoidable saber pull move and expert teenage beating skills.
The higher difficulties nerf you instead of just making the bad guys harder. You go down like a bitch from the moment you encounter significant opposition. It's basically the same as say, Halo 2, where a slight gust of wind or a single sniper shot is enough to kill you.

Does anyone actually spare Rosh? The Dark Side ending and version of the final level is so much better.
I almost always go for Light Side, but not because I like Rosh. It's mostly two reasons: because from my Jedi's POV, she doesn't want to fail Luke Skywalker, and from my own POV as a SW fan, it's because the Sith fan in me wants to be the one to kick Marka Ragnos' face in. The dude died a peaceful death since after he decapitated Simus, none of the Sith dared to challenge him. Even Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh waited until Ragnos died before they started beefing over his throne. My Jaden was probably the first person in a long time to challenge him.

Kyle Katarn is a worthy opponent, but he pales in comparison to Ragnos. You got the easy boss fight. I can't count how many times I whooped Katarn's butt before I meant to end the fight. Whereas with Ragnos, you really have to be patient.

The difference between drawing and keeping male and female interest isn't that large really imo. Outside of the obvious, most women can't be interested and kept with actionactionaction, most men can't be interested and kept with romanceromanceromance.
The key is keeping things in balance. Women like some action, especially if the lead is charming or strong. Men like some romance, especially if it involves a cute girl. I mean, women liked Anakin from the Prequels even though the majority of his best hits are the action bits with the lightsaber and him acting with his face. Men still get wet with memories of Princess Leia and Han Solo's romance, and the former's time in a golden bikini.
 
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Iirc it's published by Titan, not Disney and they've been hemorrhaging cash since DC stopped using them to distribute their books in the UK and the implosion of Diamond has left them in an even worse state. I suspect we'll see them and a lot of other nerd magazine/small comic publishers go under in the next few years
Their Conan comics have been good.

Have you guys noticed how Marvel's Star Wars line has been dwindling? Like it looks like they might only be putting out two issues out in Februlary.

I absolutely agree with you on the scores. It would be a great idea to put into circulation all of the complete scores, no matter the film. Even with my distastes of the Disney era (and I admit, I felt Williams' material for the Sequels weren't up-to-par compared to what he produced for the Original or the Prequels), it'd be a good idea just to have material out there no matter what. Subpar Williams is still good. As for whomever else scored the stand-alone movies (their names currently escape me and I'm too lazy to look them up), it'd be nice to hear everything from everyone.
I think only one or two pieces from Williams really stand out to me. John Powell scored Solo and Michael Giacchino did Rogue One.
 
Saw this.
Top: Dark Jedi (2019)
Bottom: Star Wars: Visions S2 EP7 The Bandits of Golak (2023)

*When Disney blatantly steals your action design

 
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Saw this.
Top: Dark Jedi (2019)
Bottom: Star Wars: Visions S2 EP7 The Bandits of Golak (2023)

*When Disney blatantly steals your action design

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Not the first time, not the last time, they continue to do this because they usually steal from individuals or tiny, crowd funded indie studios and Disney knows these people can't do shit or risk going bankrupt. You could be right on all counts, but good luck being dragged through court for God knows how long, hemorrhaging money you probably don't even have, while they won't even feel a dent in their coffers. Or they'll hit you with some kangaroo court shit or some legal loopholes (usually involving "well that's our IP you're making fan content from so suck it).
Least that's how I see it, hope I'm wrong.
 
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