- Joined
- Jul 30, 2017
See I grew up on TNG. Actually disliked DS9 at first but got hooked with that Garak fellow then was REALLY into it when Worf came aboard.I wouldn't say "consistently bad". Voyager had some good episodes.
Like the Doctor/Seven episodes, which basically carried the entire show.
Ok, I admit it might be just my own extremely rose-coloured glasses here, growing up when it was mainly Voyager on TV, and thus Voyager being the first Star Trek show I watched regularly. I didn't know better
Still, I remember Voyager more fondly than some here, I guess. It had a lot of flaws, but I did like the concept and the characters. It had some good chemistry going on and it had some good episodes, too. The aforementioned "Body and Soul" was just funny. Doctor-focused episodes tended to be good because, well, it's fuckin' Robert Picardo and that man is a beacon of light. "Latent Image" and "Tinker, Tailor, Doctor, Spy" were also great. "Year of Hell" was great simply because Kurtwood Smith shoving his foot up dumbass Janeway's ass. And "Mortal Coil" wasn't as dark as DS9's "Hard Time", but it was pretty hard. Even gave the ever annoying Neelix some depth and non-shitty screentime.
Voyager could have made much better use of its setting. The premise of being stranded in a strange part of the galaxy and having to limp home with limited resources should have been reflected in the set design and some more permanent writing choices. The ship always looks pristine and like it came straight from the shipyard, and while they tried to bring in some stuff like the hydroponics and such, there's just not enough proper change in the ship and the crew. Some jury-rigging, improvisation, and general repurposing would have been interesting to see. Show more of the hydroponics, maybe show that as much space as possible has been reused for food production. Make resources a bigger issue. As such there are few visual cues that the Voyager is on an almost impossible trek home.
I also liked ENT more than most would care to admit, I guess. Likewise it was flawed and suffered from baffling writing decisions and I really dislike shoving in timetravel and stuff that canonically would have only been seen later in the timeline, but I enjoyed some of the character chemistry and the general frontier atmosphere and lower tech feel of the show. The set design was great imo. Should have been more about humans being crazy reckless idiots and still getting shit done. Get more of that Cochrane spirit, slapping together a warp ship while the world is still in ruins from a nuclear war and decades of genocide, because why the fuck not.
In the end I can't really decide wether I prefer TNG or DS9. The latter has some outrageously good episodes so I guess DS9 has to win out for me. TNG might have been peak noblebright Star Trek, but DS9 took that and added some grit to it, but not too much as to make it not-Star-Trek anymore.
So, speaking of actually good Star Trek instead of the garbage that has been produced the past decade, I'm really, REALLY looking forward to another season of The Orville, and I'll be very cross indeed if it never comes.
I was actually super hyped for Voyager. I read EVERYTHING I could on it. I may still have many of the TVGuides that previewed it. (All of which claimed the Doctor's name was "Zimmerman.")
Then it came out and it was just.... meh. I just drifted away from the show. Came back when the Borg were talked about and stayed around for awhile because of that super gorgeous 7. Then drifted away again.
At the start, DS9 got me to care about characters I didn't at first. Voyager got me to be apathetic towards characters I did care about at first. They just ended up making everything on that show so vanilla it was too boring to bother with. A show they had every set up and reason to make exciting week after week!
