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This is mildly off-topic, but does anyone here know where I can find the Antithesis Fan-Edit of Star Trek Nemesis? It's a project someone made to edit the film into something a bit more watchable. I'm curious to put that to the test (as I remember the film being quite mediocre, with a lot of deleted scenes that should have absolutely stayed in), but looking around online, all I've found are dead links and abandoned torrents.
 
Judge Holden said:
To be honest watching some dude fuck kirk onboard the sisko pimp-wagon would be orders of magnitude less of a franchise rape than......this
https://youtube.com/watch?v=L4towujqjBQ- I am unironically still in shock from watching this the first time...jesus christ -
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This was the absolute bottom of the barrel for Star Trek. Profit and Lace, Sub Rosa, Spock's Brain... really, nothing at all can top it.
 
MembersSchoolPizza said:
The "science" may not be any less squishy and bullshit than most of TNG or DS9 or what have you, but there's at least a sense they were trying to *present* it as science. Discovery and Picard both seem to equate "science" with "magic" and expect the audience to just... not care.
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You know, I'm willing to risk saying this: one of the things I really appreciated about Babylon 5 was how little they got into the technobabble versus most of the treks. I think DS9 was perhaps a little better than TNG/VOY/ENT about it, but not by much.

TaimuRadiu said:
This was the absolute bottom of the barrel for Star Trek. Profit and Lace, Sub Rosa, Spock's Brain... really, nothing at all can top it.
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Hey now, at least Profit and Lace was a Ferengi comedy episode (tranny Quark, wat). It's funny how they went from being such shitty bad guys in TNG to basically being the Q episodes of DS9. The Grand Nagus is pretty much the same wildcard character, I feel like.
 
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yahooligan said:
Hey now, at least Profit and Lace was a Ferengi comedy episode (tranny Quark, wat). It's funny how they went from being such shitty bad guys in TNG to basically being the Q episodes of DS9. The Grand Nagus is pretty much the same wildcard character, I feel like.
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Yeah I feel like profit and lace is meant to be absurdly dumb and I do love me some Ferengi episodes, hell the race focused episodes contribute a lot to how big DS9 as a series felt as so many races got a lot of their background filled in.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
This was the absolute bottom of the barrel for Star Trek. Profit and Lace, Sub Rosa, Spock's Brain... really, nothing at all can top it.
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Hey, profit and lace was pretty good actually. For one, it was funny as fuck when Quark was told he'd have to get a temporary sex change.

And I loved how the entire basis for granting females rights wasn't because they actually deserve them, but because it would be profitable for the males. Now THAT is based as fuck.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
This was the absolute bottom of the barrel for Star Trek. Profit and Lace, Sub Rosa, Spock's Brain... really, nothing at all can top it.
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Star Trek Picard was all over the place with a ex-Borg rehab center, former Enterprise crew members in need of rehab, kung fu elf Romulans, a sneaky secret society anti-robot Romulans infiltrating the Federation bureaucracy and a former Enterprise captain who comes out of retirement to wear an eye patch and speak in a French accent with a totally OOC 7 of 9. Contrast it with the old Star Trek The Voyage Home, a film with a message and one considered leftist at the time. It managed to be an in canon Star Trek film, entertaining and informative without bashing you over the head. None of the people involved with it then are involved with Star Trek now. Like many others I get the feeling the people in charge of the Star Trek franchise right now don't care for it very much. In fact, I think they hate the old Star Trek.
 
Racist Trash said:
Yeah I feel like profit and lace is meant to be absurdly dumb and I do love me some Ferengi episodes, hell the race focused episodes contribute a lot to how big DS9 as a series felt as so many races got a lot of their background filled in.
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That's what was great about having it episodic, with ~24 episodes a season. They could get weird.

It also let them paint to the edges of the canvas, add all these fun details. I think that's what drew a lot of people in.

They could make deep cut Ferengi jokes in DS9 that people got because they put the time in. I like the little details, and there's not much room for that in a ten episode serial. There'd be no room for something fun like the Ferengi in a modern Trek show (although I guess there's room for a fucking elf?)
 
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I always felt that the best thing DS9 did was flesh out the Ferengi

I didn't really care about Bajor, the Dominion war felt out of place to me, Odo was never really given the time to grow into an interesting character and TNG did the Klingons far better.

But the Ferengi storylines....perfect.
 
I was clicking around this morning and found this old bastard:


According to the description:

"The Making Of Star Trek Generations Which Was Given Away Free With The Sun Newspaper In 1993."

Its a little sobering to remember that all of these movies were huge deals at the time. Come to think of it I'm so checked out from modern advertising culture that I can't think of any tie-ins or promotional stuff for the newer Trek movies and series. I remember there was a big marketing campaign for the first Abrams movie but that's about it.
 
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L50LasPak said:
I remember there was a big marketing campaign for the first Abrams movie but that's about it.
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I remember the event in the Playstation Home, the trailer was playing in the main area and people would get free uniforms for their avatar.
 
L50LasPak said:
I was clicking around this morning and found this old bastard:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fgZxLmPlozE
According to the description:

"The Making Of Star Trek Generations Which Was Given Away Free With The Sun Newspaper In 1993."

Its a little sobering to remember that all of these movies were huge deals at the time. Come to think of it I'm so checked out from modern advertising culture that I can't think of any tie-ins or promotional stuff for the newer Trek movies and series. I remember there was a big marketing campaign for the first Abrams movie but that's about it.
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Holy shit, I remember this. It was included as an extra on one of the DVD releases, I believe.
 
Guts Gets Some said:
Don't lose heart. Dragonball Evolution actually announced a sequel before it was released too (IE, before any real numbers were known), and we all know that film happened. :story:

On a more depressing note, this just in, actors are almost all pieces of shit:
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Sometimes I wonder how much this kind of stuff is the actor’s own options and how much of it is their agents going “listen, the studio says you have to do it or they will blacklist you from Hollywood and television.”
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
Sometimes I wonder how much this kind of stuff is the actor’s own options and how much of it is their agents going “listen, the studio says you have to do it or they will blacklist you from Hollywood and television.”
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Personally, I take interviews like this about as seriously as I take hostage videos.
 
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