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One unresolved issue with the Galaxy is while numbers have given for the crew none have ever been for civilians and/or dependants also on board. Granted the same also applied to every other Federation ship carrying civilians.
 
I watched BOBW again recently and realized the admiral Picard talked to was named Hansen. An Admiral Hansen who was assigned to the Borg. Could it be he was ANNIKA HANSEN's grandfather? Who the hell knows but Starfleet admirals are crazy enough to send their families on wild goose chases after half known ghosts from hundreds of years previous
 
Speaking of designs and DS9, I briefly mentioned this before, but one of the few things I didn't like about DS9 is how small it felt.

It was 90% the promenade (always a guy selling the same weird looking candy in a stick) + quarks doing 90% of the job of making the place feel like an actual huge sci-fi space station visited by aliens every day. The rest was the generic space ship locations of rooms, bridge, jails, and medical areas. There was an episode with a kinglon fast food restaurant so there is that.

In contrast, I was very impressed with how b5 showed actual CGI trains running around the station, and several locations including many different restaurants, parks for recreation, bars, slums with poor people, markets, areas for engineers, a room for a council, different rooms for each ambassador, etc etc. And that was just me seeing up to early season 2

With the bigger budget, compared to B5, I wish they had been more creative. But still, love the series.
 
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Also Starfleet probably just beams everyone everywhere. Teleportation is the best excuse for everything. If not that, then the turbo lift apparently moves fast enough to get everyone from place to place.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
I watched BOBW again recently and realized the admiral Picard talked to was named Hansen. An Admiral Hansen who was assigned to the Borg. Could it be he was ANNIKA HANSEN's grandfather? Who the hell knows but Starfleet admirals are crazy enough to send their families on wild goose chases after half known ghosts from hundreds of years previous
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I'm sure someone has written a book on that very thing.

Unless we have it backwards. Maybe the admiral's family went off looking for the Borg and then he became obsessed with finding out what happened to them.
 
ZMOT said:
the galaxy class could also wreck some serious shit, risk of someone coming along and managing to blow it up was quite low - borgs for example weren't a thing back when they came up with it.
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A lot of early episodes of TNG went for a complete opposite dynamic from TOS. TOS was always about external threats menacing the Enterprise but TNG was frequently going for a "with great power comes great responsibility" angle. The Enterprise-D could BTFO most anyone who came along but it was more about Picard showing restraint and pursuing diplomatic solutions instead.

The distant future Enterprise-J shown on ENT was ugly as hell but I do like the idea of Federation flagships eventually becoming something like mobile colonies.
 
I've been looking for some comparative reviews/rankings of the TNG films from a source that knows what they're talking about, but Google's results are polluted beyond all utility. Does anybody know of some fan sites/a good list on IMDB from somebody who is worth listening to? Anybody here's opinion on them is welcome too as you all certainly qualify.

I am unsure why the TOS series is much easier to find people sperging on, I think they're almost as flawed as the TNG ones, although have greater peaks and weirdness I guess.
 
Tookie said:
The Enterprise-D could BTFO most anyone who came along but it was more about Picard showing restraint and pursuing diplomatic solutions instead.
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Both the Klingons and Romulans possessed ships comparable or superior to the Enterprise. Its not that there were a lack of threats insomuch as it was that Picard stuck to Federation space and spent most of his time attending conferences.
 
Man vs persistent rat said:
I've been looking for some comparative reviews/rankings of the TNG films from a source that knows what they're talking about, but Google's results are polluted beyond all utility. Does anybody know of some fan sites/a good list on IMDB from somebody who is worth listening to? Anybody here's opinion on them is welcome too as you all certainly qualify.

I am unsure why the TOS series is much easier to find people sperging on, I think they're almost as flawed as the TNG ones, although have greater peaks and weirdness I guess.
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Generations is okay, I guess, but I wouldn't call it an amazing film; maybe average at best. First Contact is the best of the TNG films, though it's best described as Aliens set in the Star Trek universe. Insurrection looks nice but feel free to skip it at it's mediocre at best and dips a bit too heavily in the fantasy half of science-fantasy. Nemesis can be missed completely unless you have a compulsion to learn everything about how the Kelvin timeline spinoffs were set up.

TL;DR - if you're a real film buff say First Contact is good and skip every other TNG film; compared overall to the TOS films (even the not so good ones), they're a disappointment.
 
One thing the TOS movies, even the bad ones, have over the TNG movies is that the TOS movies tend to keep the characters intact, while the TNG movies shit all over them. That's why I still find something like The Final Frontier to be a fun movie while Insurrection and Nemesis just make me miserable.
 
Man vs persistent rat said:
I've been looking for some comparative reviews/rankings of the TNG films from a source that knows what they're talking about, but Google's results are polluted beyond all utility. Does anybody know of some fan sites/a good list on IMDB from somebody who is worth listening to? Anybody here's opinion on them is welcome too as you all certainly qualify.
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SFDebris is a solid trek reviewer, and his film takes are equally solid imo. (When he started, there were 10 films, and he ranked them 1-10 as he went.) The only film he hasn't covered yet is Beyond.

Star Trek Reviews

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Out of nowhere, we got two trailers.
A trailer for STD S3:
intl.startrek.com

The First Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 Trailer has Arrived

Watch it here first.
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(there's one on YT as well but it isn't available outside the US)
And the official trailer for the Picard show:
oh, and apparently the new season of Short Treks is also out, lmao.

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I wonder if the third season of STD will be worse than the other two. The trailer looks bad. Michael Burnham is the key to all of this... again.

trekkor said:
Out of nowhere
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It's from New York Comic Con ;), that said it's quite insulting to the people who went to Star Trek Las Vegas and got nothing. Kurtzman and his people prefer the San Diego and New York Comic Con to promote their crap. I would be pissed off if I had to pay thousands for a pass, the hotel and the plane to a Star Trek convention and get no exclusive info on the new "Star Trek" stuff.

There's also a glimpse of the new Short Treks.
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Star Trek on Twitter

“#StarTrekShortTreks first look at #NYCC https://t.co/6WRTcSa4d0 https://t.co/CZbCZOEXEd”
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Spock now acts like Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory. These people have no idea of how to write Spock or any other Vulcan.
 
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Man vs persistent rat said:
I've been looking for some comparative reviews/rankings of the TNG films from a source that knows what they're talking about, but Google's results are polluted beyond all utility. Does anybody know of some fan sites/a good list on IMDB from somebody who is worth listening to? Anybody here's opinion on them is welcome too as you all certainly qualify.

I am unsure why the TOS series is much easier to find people sperging on, I think they're almost as flawed as the TNG ones, although have greater peaks and weirdness I guess.
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Star Trek: Generations

Star Trek Reviews
sfdebris.com

Also before the prequels, there was...
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Star Trek: Generations Review - Part 1

http://www.blip.tv/file/3580073 watch the full review here. This is part one of my very in depth review of the movie Star Trek: Generations. After I saw this...
youtu.be youtu.be
 
Miller said:
I wonder if the third season of STD will be worse than the other two. The trailer looks bad. Michael Burnham is the key to all of this... again.
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The trailer was so incredibly generic I got nothing out of it. Aside from ofc #qween Michael being important yet again. But I don't know how CBS can keep giving us these shitty trailers that don't generate any hype or just kill it from the start. When Joker's trailer got released, it fucking convinced me to watch the movie because it looked amazing. STD was just bland.
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These people have no idea of how to write Spock or any other Vulcan.
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I see it as two problems - the writers don't know how to write him, like you said, and these younger actors who have to portray him do an impression of Spock that doesn't capture any of the spirit of the original character. I wish they'd just give up on Spock. Nimoy made the role and while I'm sure there's someone out there who could do a good job (Karl Urban made a wonderful McCoy so I'm not ruling out it being impossible), they're always gonna pick someone who just can't do it.
 
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