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Yeah I got the impression that Jake was one of those things that sounded like it would be a good idea to do in the pilot phase, like the "Odo turns into stuff" and "there's anything going on outside of Bajor near the station" that increasingly fell by the wayside as they figured out what was working and what wasn't.
He came in handy from a storytelling standpoint when needed.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
Sisko's character was punching things until they shut up. If a bitch gets hit by the mighty Sisko fist, she had it coming. Even the Borg cube attacking Earth couldn't survive his space fist, the Defiant.
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The Defiant was always my favorite trek starship. The first Starfleet vessel that existed only to fuck shit up. Which it did very regular. But they still found ways to use it for exploration and diplomacy. An interesting inverse to the Enterprise that was built for exploration and diplomacy but ended up having to fight on occasion.

I weep at the thought Nu trek will eventually get around to bringing in the Defiant and use it as an allegory for "war am bad" rather then "war is horrible but sometimes unavoidable".
 
TaimuRadiu said:
Sisko's character was punching things until they shut up.
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He is the hero the Federation needed.
mindlessobserver said:
The Defiant was always my favorite trek starship. The first Starfleet vessel that existed only to fuck shit up. Which it did very regular. But they still found ways to use it for exploration and diplomacy. An interesting inverse to the Enterprise that was built for exploration and diplomacy but ended up having to fight on occasion.
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I always loved the idea that the Federation's dedicated warship is one of their smaller ships. Instead of a slow battleship-analogue they made it like a space fighter jet with all the extra crap cut out of it.

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Assimilate THIS!...
 
XYZpdq said:
it's even funnier with the story I've heard that Gene wanted it to be a girl. Even pioneering wanting to be the little girl, turly the great albatross of the galaxy
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knowing roddenberry he was probably looking for some sweet young ass to bone

mindlessobserver said:
The Defiant was always my favorite trek starship. The first Starfleet vessel that existed only to fuck shit up. Which it did very regular. But they still found ways to use it for exploration and diplomacy. An interesting inverse to the Enterprise that was built for exploration and diplomacy but ended up having to fight on occasion.

I weep at the thought Nu trek will eventually get around to bringing in the Defiant and use it as an allegory for "war am bad" rather then "war is horrible but sometimes unavoidable".
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I remember way back there were some books about a federation battleship (can't really remember, with 2 bridges etc). maybe even fanmade. no idea how canon that would be tho.

and war is ok as long as it's against "the wrong people", so expect more preachy retardation
 
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So looks like the best Trek involving Discovery... has the least Discovery in it.

They should have named the main character "Michael Albatross."

 
I didn't like that episode, it felt like if the producers picked up a random short story about AI assissant like Alexa who wants to get blacked. Like Chuck said, there are a lot of references to the original story that inspired the author to write that episode but it doesn't fit into STD. The episode takes place thousands of years into the future so the setting is already quite insufferable, for some reason the ship now has an AI on board and of course the program acts like a human being and of course it falls in love.
It's quite ironic that they gave the showrunner seat of another spin-off to the guy who wrote this STD episode that had nothing to do with the show.
 
Flexo said:
Beside child actor laws, I think also it just had the fact the writers didn't have a lot for Jake.
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TaimuRadiu said:
this doesn't explain away all the exceptional amount of time wesley got while wil wheaton was like 16
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I always liked the fact they didn't go overboard with Jake. He was a nice contrast with Wesley. Jake wasn't some obnoxious child prodigy or being groomed by an inter-dimensional pedophile, he was just an average kid who didn't even have the inclination to follow his father into Starfleet. Having a run-of-the-mill domestic life was a nice anchor for Sisko's character.
 
ZMOT said:
I remember way back there were some books about a federation battleship (can't really remember, with 2 bridges etc). maybe even fanmade. no idea how canon that would be tho.
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werewolf rape erotica said:
Dreadnought!
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Yeah my mind went straight to the Franz Joseph one.

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This thing has to be one of the earliest examples of an overpowered OC ship design in a sci-fi franchise. Something about it still seems to fascinate people though. If you ask me the Excelsior was basically the death of this thing, though in practice every time an Excelsior goes into battle on Star Trek it always gets its ass whipped.

The one in the book is fucking ridiculous though. It can project copies of itself that can simulate damage and take on a bunch of battlecruisers single-handedly. Its also astonishingly ugly.

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