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gobbogobb said:
Lol https://www.startrek.com/news/star-trek-risa-conversation-daniel-ortberg-colette-arrand
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Danny and Colette, two friends of varying transsexual types, sit down for a chat about the pleasure planet Risa, and to ask just how many times a man can get “tricked” by aliens disguised as beautiful women before the whole planet qualifies as a force-femme fantasy.
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>two friends of varying transsexual types
>a force-femme fantasy
Star Trek is dead, Jim.
 
Oh they talk about that too.

I'm just floored that out of every character they pick Riker to be the chaser. Obviously it would be Geordi or Jellico.
 

OMG, I hadn't watched the short treks yet. But they STILL have to have an alien, who is a girl, and a teenager, that just so happens to be a brilliant scientist/engineer AND her world's princess???

By my shiny metal ass Discovery should have just be called the Mary-Sues.
 
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Robert Picardo on Twitter

“Happy Birthday Jennifer Lien.”
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Amazing how tweets like this from a cast member of one of the crappier Trek shows about another cast member who has had a fairly....rough...time of things has more of an emotional impact on me than every movie, tv shit, and upcoming nostalgia bait series trailer I have seen for over a decade.

I mean I would unironically rather watch the Voyager episode when Neelix spent the whole runtime preparing to bust a nut than anything from nu-trek
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I'm working my way through the original series finally. Most of the way through the first season. Most notable things so far have been Kirk with the giant dildo
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and this unbelievably bad fight scene with a lizard. I don't think I've ever seen punches in a fight scene as slow as these ones.
 
I just finished DS9.

Overall, I really enjoyed the show from start to finish. It was a different experience from TOS and TNG, but in a really good way.
 
I finally got a chance to watch the DS9 Documentary now that its on DVD. Its okay. Its very self-congratulatory throughout, and downright cringey at points. I screamed "FUCK YOU!" at my television when they said that they'd kill Nog in the premiere of a fictionalized season 8. That's some cheap Game of Thrones shit and I can't believe they thought it was a good idea.


After the end of this clip, the next sequence is a montage of Dax and Kira acting sexy set to the song "Bitch." Not joking.

(also lol at the person citing Moogie as one of their favorite characters)

RumblyTumbly said:
I just finished DS9.

Overall, I really enjoyed the show from start to finish. It was a different experience from TOS and TNG, but in a really good way.
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I'm always afraid to revisit DS9 because I worry that one day Garak will seem hokey and overly theatrical like Londo from Babylon 5.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I'm always afraid to revisit DS9 because I worry that one day Garak will seem hokey and overly theatrical like Londo from Babylon 5.
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Speaking off that, I liked ds9 so much I am watching some babylon 5.

I am still at early season 2, Both had a weak first season, I was outright bored during b5’s first season to be honest. But, In regard to it feeling like an actual space station I would give the edge already to Babylon 5.

Ds9 was mostly just the promenade, the bridge and Quark’s. It felt very small.I was impressed by how many actual locations they showed, including actual trains, several restaurants, and locations like slums for poor people and, I think, a park of sorts.

But so far , IMHO DS9 has the edge in having great characters. B5 spent so much time setting up the war plot, the human characters were mostly very plain during season 1.

being fair in comparing their first season (or early season 2) selves, I like Sisko a lot more than Sinclair or Sheridan. And Kira was a lot more interesting than Ivanova. Even Bashir, despite being hated, had a lot more personality than Franklin.

Later seasons of b5 might change my mind, but I give the edge to Ds9 so far.
 
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The more I hear about the DS9 documentary, the less I want to watch it. I saw Razorfist's review and it seems to be all about Ira's huge ego and less about the actual brain behind Star Trek (Michael Piller).
 
Miller said:
The more I hear about the DS9 documentary, the less I want to watch it. I saw Razorfist's review and it seems to be all about Ira's huge ego and less about the actual brain behind Star Trek (Michael Piller).
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The episode brainstorming is great to watch. Depends a lot on your cringe tolerance. Compare with SFDebris' end of series review though shows how shallow a lot of the documentary is.

Star Trek (DS9): What You Leave Behind, Part II

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Miller said:
The more I hear about the DS9 documentary, the less I want to watch it. I saw Razorfist's review and it seems to be all about Ira's huge ego and less about the actual brain behind Star Trek (Michael Piller).
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I just watched it a couple of weeks ago, it's pretty good and the remastered scenes are just as beautiful as the TNG remasters. I personally thought the season 8 brainstorming was dumb as fuck. They seemed to not have any new or fresh ideas after 20 year 'cause Nog getting blown up and Kira being a cleric was just so....stupid. The interviews were pretty good, there's still obvious bad blood between Terry Farrell and the studio. The SJW jab they took at Trump was pretty cringe. Overall it I'd give it a 3.meh/5, it was worth the 3.99 to rent off of Amazon but I'm sure the remastered scenes will show up on Youtube at some point so I won't have any reason to watch the whole thing again.
 
Dave Meltzer said:
I'm working my way through the original series finally. Most of the way through the first season. Most notable things so far have been Kirk with the giant dildo
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and this unbelievably bad fight scene with a lizard. I don't think I've ever seen punches in a fight scene as slow as these ones.
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Wish I could remember the episode, but I do distinctly remember SF Debris goofing on a scene in a TNG episode where Picard holds a similar penis-shaped rock at crotch level while Riker looks at him and smugly chuckles knowingly.
 
Miller said:
The more I hear about the DS9 documentary, the less I want to watch it. I saw Razorfist's review and it seems to be all about Ira's huge ego and less about the actual brain behind Star Trek (Michael Piller).
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Ira's ego is truly huge in it and there's a part where he's going through all the #wokeness points DS9 had one by one. He takes points off DS9 actually for not going full homo with Garak and Bashir. The whole thing is really cringy. I sort of wish someone else had lead the project, mostly because I would've wanted to see an extended and unedited scene of Marc Alaimo bitching at Ira for Dukat's storyline without Ira making it seem like Marc was insane. For me, that small part was one of the highlights of the doc (aside from the HD remasters ofc). The doc also suffers from not having Avery Brooks in it (all the interviews with him are old). I get why he didn't do it (apparently he's just tired of talking about Trek and doesn't have anything new to say, which is understandable), but if you still have the main actor alive and kicking, it would've been nice to have him on-screen. I also missed Louise Fletcher (I love Winn), but she's like 85 so her health might not be the best.
 
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