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If you want I could post the TNG mirror universe comic
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I decided I hated EU comics of any franchise when the Enterprise D came across Tholians and still ended up in the web somehow despite 200 years of technology advancement. The Tholian ships didn't even look slightly different. Fuck comic books.
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Not even if if it has this in it?
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Tempting, I must admit.
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Couldn't give less of a fuck about a non-binary character in Star Trek if it were done well because aliens can have whatever gender the writers want but since it's obviously just about "teehee nazi trolls will be sooo mad at this" and muh diversity, it's gonna be as vapid as the rest of STD.The ride never ends
Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 Will Introduce A Non-Binary Character
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So his holodeck programs have been gateways to the mirror universe all along?
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I saw a screenshot where he just finished putting MirrorWesley in his place so utterly that
Here's a bit more
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Rich Evans hit the nail on the head in their new video.
Sci-Fi used to be something for nerds who care for science. Nowadays, it's just dumb action and cheap drama in space for people who dislike science, but being a bit of a nerd is chic.
Star Trek always used technobabble to justify things or to achieve some effect or counter some other technobabble thing... but the difference is, that back in the good old days, they weren't as lazy with it. It was oh-so-convenient, but at worst it was like Geordi saying "We can counter the Transwarp Flux Wave by releasing Tachyon Particles from our Warp Core and then turbo-encabulating the Phlebotinum-Coefficient by hitting it with an inverse polarisation difuser field from the deflector array."
I mean, half the time it was just about releasing plasma or particles and hitting them with some energy from the deflector or whatever.
In contrast, STD Season 2 apparently has them create a Super Nova using black holes or whatever (according to Mike and Rich) and justify that with ridiculous levels of technobabble and people just leisurely building machinerey to get this shit to work.
And to add insult to injury:
The 2 scenes of Spock going "I like science" and that red-haired chick going "This is the power of math!" is so cringe-worthy. JFC.
I particularly hate that red-haired chick and when I watched a few episodes of STD, I immediately feared she'd become a main character.
By making her intentionally awkward and annoying, they don't make that character endearing. They make her awkward and annoying.
And then they have her say the most stupid thing I've ever heard whenever she opens her mouth.
Dunno about the actress of Burnham, but I really dislike the way she delivers her lines, especially when she's trying to go for a dramatic and serious tone. Maybe I am doing her an injustice by saying this, but I don't think she's a good actress. That or the directions she gets from the production team are garbage.
All joking aside, it's only a matter of time until we get a muslim character. I halfway expect a muslim captain that will remind us of himself being muslim constantly, for instance by having the ship arrange itself in a way that he can pray facing the right way and he'll constantly use his superior islam-morals to solve sitations. There will be an antagonist that's going to be an "Earth First" bigot with phony christian talking points.
Sci-Fi used to be something for nerds who care for science. Nowadays, it's just dumb action and cheap drama in space for people who dislike science, but being a bit of a nerd is chic.
Star Trek always used technobabble to justify things or to achieve some effect or counter some other technobabble thing... but the difference is, that back in the good old days, they weren't as lazy with it. It was oh-so-convenient, but at worst it was like Geordi saying "We can counter the Transwarp Flux Wave by releasing Tachyon Particles from our Warp Core and then turbo-encabulating the Phlebotinum-Coefficient by hitting it with an inverse polarisation difuser field from the deflector array."
I mean, half the time it was just about releasing plasma or particles and hitting them with some energy from the deflector or whatever.
In contrast, STD Season 2 apparently has them create a Super Nova using black holes or whatever (according to Mike and Rich) and justify that with ridiculous levels of technobabble and people just leisurely building machinerey to get this shit to work.
And to add insult to injury:
The 2 scenes of Spock going "I like science" and that red-haired chick going "This is the power of math!" is so cringe-worthy. JFC.
I particularly hate that red-haired chick and when I watched a few episodes of STD, I immediately feared she'd become a main character.
By making her intentionally awkward and annoying, they don't make that character endearing. They make her awkward and annoying.
And then they have her say the most stupid thing I've ever heard whenever she opens her mouth.
Dunno about the actress of Burnham, but I really dislike the way she delivers her lines, especially when she's trying to go for a dramatic and serious tone. Maybe I am doing her an injustice by saying this, but I don't think she's a good actress. That or the directions she gets from the production team are garbage.
The ship will have an AI that's agender, but still endlessly talk about sex and LGBT+ issues.
All joking aside, it's only a matter of time until we get a muslim character. I halfway expect a muslim captain that will remind us of himself being muslim constantly, for instance by having the ship arrange itself in a way that he can pray facing the right way and he'll constantly use his superior islam-morals to solve sitations. There will be an antagonist that's going to be an "Earth First" bigot with phony christian talking points.
The episode with evil Voyager was directed by the actor of Tuvok, who did a pretty great job. Overall it's an amazing episode and you can tell that the actors enjoyed production.
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I agree and I missed that part when I read the article:
"There aren’t many details to go off of, but it sounds like this individual will be named AIDRA (we’re not sure if the all caps is a typo, or deliberate), and is said to be very intelligent and self-confident. "
Very intelligent and self-confident? Sounds like how they write every character on STD. Not so much diversity there...
I'd like to see an adaptation of the Swoleverse.
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Damn. I thought the trek comic where Q showed up to torment nuKirk & crew was fun but i need to find these issues.
Can u tell me the name?
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I think it's called "Mirror Broken".
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So, I ... uh... just watched the first 2 episodes of STD and I know I am late, but what the fuck did I just watch?
The worst thing for me when going from TOS to TNG is how different Klingons looked and how there's a shitton of new aliens almost around every corner that we have never seen before but are told that they are super important. I understand that TNG had to change things a little and introduce new aliens or alter existing ones, I am fine with that, it's just a tad bad for continuity... but nothing I can't overlook.
But then there's the Klingons in STD and suddenly they look this:
What is it with new entries in old franchises that are visibly ashamed of being part of said old franchise?
Sure, they went from this:
to this:
to this:
Makes total sense.
And I assume we just can't have subtle politics in our shows any longer, we need Klingon Supremacists in our show, raging on and on about their race's purity and how degenerate the Starfleet is for being diverse. I'm only surprised they don't wear red caps with "Make Klingon worship Kahless again" written on them. Well, that and the villain isn't called "T'Rampu" and his second in comman being called "Pen'Tse".
But you wanna know what the worst thing is?
The characters are insanely grating and manage to be wildly inconsistent within one Episode, even Janeway wasn't this poorly written.
Episode one has Saru state that the unknown object should be ignored cause it might be dangerous, that black chick goes "Maybe it's harmless! We should analyse it!".
Then she finds out that it is from the Klingons, instantly decides that she needs to destroy it and Saru goes "Noooo, it's a priceless artifact, we can't destroy that!" So, when they knew nothing about it, it was potentially dangerous and should be avoided at all costs, but when it turns out to be actually a threat, he doesn't want to scratch it. And of course, Tumblrham turns into a broken record about the necessity to kill all Klingons. Strangely enough, she makes a point for the alt-right: "Don't confuse race with culture", when she talks about the dangers of Klingons.
Tumblrham alone is such an annoying Fan-Fiction-Tier crap protagonist. Sure she was raised by Spock's parents, is a prodigy that graduated from a Vulcan Hogwarts. Who wrote this crap?
And that's not even going into all the conveniences and inconsistencies within the plot of these 2 episodes. It's such a mess.
So, we have Enterprise, the show so emberassed of being Star Trek, it didn't even put it in its title, STD, which just going by the synopsis of the first 2 seasons looks atrocious and contrived... and then we have the upcoming STP, a desperate attempt to garner sympathy from fans by dragging Patrick Stewart in front of the cameras, but it's a weird hodgepodge of both the Abrams timeline and the old timeline (I guess to please old and new fans the same, unfortunately, that's not how this works and both groups will be ostracised).
Star Trek managed to give us TNG and DS9, 2 absolutely amazing shows. It gave us Voyager, which was (IMHO) one of the best shows from the basic idea behind it but utterly ruined in execution, now it's only shitting out Abrams crap movies with unlikeable asshat characters and 3 shows that are absolutely unbearable.
TL;DR: STD has to be as different as possible from the old timeline in order for CBS to make more money.
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One of the facets of Star Trek's history that is often overlooked is the legal aspects, specifically the transfer of Gene Roddenberry's chunk of Star Trek over to his first wife on their divorce. Apparently, the agreement was ambiguously worded, so it was never clear if she owned anything Star Trek or only the three seasons of the original series.
This ambiguity and similar has been the driving force behind much of what is usually spun as "creative decisions." The original animated series was declared "not canon" by Roddenberry to make it harder for his first wife to claim her cut. Enterprise cut the words Star Trek from the title to further disassociate the property from previously established claims. At every stage, the dynamic was to create a new property based on the IP, trumpet the association to bring in fans, and simultaneously denying it to keep more of the money.
So, these legal rights issues dominating legitimate creative decisions has been a factor in Star Trek since literally the first spin-off series made. It is nothing new, and it was a factor in TNG as well.
Meanwhile, Orville, a series with no legitimate licensing connection to Star Trek is widely considered the legitimate "heir in spirit."
I think a bit too much time is being spent talking about this "25% difference" between the licenses. If the Orville can capture the affection of fans with no license, then it should be possible to make a credible Star Trek series within a license.
It's the scripts and the series bible, not whether the badges are patches or broaches.
This ambiguity and similar has been the driving force behind much of what is usually spun as "creative decisions." The original animated series was declared "not canon" by Roddenberry to make it harder for his first wife to claim her cut. Enterprise cut the words Star Trek from the title to further disassociate the property from previously established claims. At every stage, the dynamic was to create a new property based on the IP, trumpet the association to bring in fans, and simultaneously denying it to keep more of the money.
So, these legal rights issues dominating legitimate creative decisions has been a factor in Star Trek since literally the first spin-off series made. It is nothing new, and it was a factor in TNG as well.
Meanwhile, Orville, a series with no legitimate licensing connection to Star Trek is widely considered the legitimate "heir in spirit."
I think a bit too much time is being spent talking about this "25% difference" between the licenses. If the Orville can capture the affection of fans with no license, then it should be possible to make a credible Star Trek series within a license.
It's the scripts and the series bible, not whether the badges are patches or broaches.
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Also TAS has the guys from that other sci-fi IP, the Kzinti or whatever
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I just read a scan of that Mirror Broken comic and it was pretty fucking great.
If I had to name a disappointment with the comic, it would be that Worf and O'Brien weren't in it. (This keeps with canon, so yeah, another reason to hate the shitty DS9 mirror episodes.) In this comic, I would have rather seen Worf in particular in chains as this Picard's attack dog.
Wesley was a surprise. Beverly was passing him off as some kind of retard, complete with tard hair-
Check this shit out if you can, it's good.
If I had to name a disappointment with the comic, it would be that Worf and O'Brien weren't in it. (This keeps with canon, so yeah, another reason to hate the shitty DS9 mirror episodes.) In this comic, I would have rather seen Worf in particular in chains as this Picard's attack dog.
Wesley was a surprise. Beverly was passing him off as some kind of retard, complete with tard hair-
But it was a ruse, (which made sense, because children would not be allowed on this version of the Enterprise) This version of Wesley is just as stupidly overcompetent as the regular Wesley, and MirrorPicard actually welcomes him onto his bridge, against his mothers protestations no less. I still love the retard hair for this part though. (He combs it when Picard puts him on the bridge.)
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I once had a nightmare about the Borg collective and swore not to watch first contact again.
In 1991, my mom took me and my sister to see Beauty and the Beast. My dad, who was a Trekkie at the time, went to see the Undiscovered Country.
After our movie, we snuck into the other room to tell my dad where we were going. I didn't understand who this Captain was.
Wasn't the Captain in Star Trek a bald, British guy?
That was the first time I saw Shatner in Star Trek. I knew him well from Rescue 911
In 1991, my mom took me and my sister to see Beauty and the Beast. My dad, who was a Trekkie at the time, went to see the Undiscovered Country.
After our movie, we snuck into the other room to tell my dad where we were going. I didn't understand who this Captain was.
Wasn't the Captain in Star Trek a bald, British guy?
That was the first time I saw Shatner in Star Trek. I knew him well from Rescue 911
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I'm looking into that one now. Also looking forward to your thoughts as you seem to have a good head on your (robotic) shoulders.
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Just out of curiosity, how does a Terran vessel like this in the TNG era mesh at all with the DS9 mirror universe?
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What? It doesn't... at all.... I think you missed my point even. Worf (and Miles) would NOT work in the TNG mirror universe, with what DS9 presented as their mirror universe. That was my point.
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