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UnKillFill said:
Playing God:

This guy shows up again.
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I love it.
Most Klingons are looking to die a glorious death in battle. This guy just wants to play his accordion, sing forgotten Klingon songs, and feed everyone, including himself, a shit ton of gahh. Today is a good day to eat!

I don't have much else to say about this episode. It's perfectly fine.
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I think it was from a post in this very thread but someone described the Klingons we mostly see as the warrior class. While they adopt a bushido mindset the rest of Klingon society is more of a chivalric mindset: throwing yourself into 'battle' against your 'foe', whatever that may be. In this jolly Klingon's case, a restaurateur, battling the foe of hunger and boredom on behalf of his customers.
 
Tribunal: (i.e. "Obrien must suffer number... I wanna say... 8?")

Miles' casual (and justified) racism against the cardies has always amused me. Even if he didn't already hate them before this episode, I bet he would now.
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Watching this one with my friend, I told her that this was another "Obrien must suffer" episode, and she said "Oh god." It opens with Miles and Keiko going on vacation and her being a nag and I said "See? I told you he was gonna suffer XD."

Commissar Fuklaw said:
I think it was from a post in this very thread but someone described the Klingons we mostly see as the warrior class. While they adopt a bushido mindset the rest of Klingon society is more of a chivalric mindset: throwing yourself into 'battle' against your 'foe', whatever that may be. In this jolly Klingon's case, a restaurateur, battling the foe of hunger and boredom on behalf of his customers.
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I love it.
 
The Search:

I could be wrong... But I'm pretty sure that DS9 just invoked Mutts Law...

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But I could be imagining it...
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
You're really binge watching, lol. Incredibly based.
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I really am, lol. Although the recent general pro-Voyager turn of this thread has finally convinced me to decide to switch from watching each show separately in order (which i did up until the end of TNG, and already regretted doing.) to following a viewing guide... https://thestartrekchronologyproject.blogspot.com/ this looks promising (I'm obviously ignoring all of the nutrek shit.) But it presents a way to watch both Ds9 and Voyager simultaneously supposedly without losing the flow of either, which is what I am looking for. I will probably watch "Caretaker" tomorrow.
 
UnKillFill said:
it presents a way to watch both Ds9 and Voyager simultaneously supposedly without losing the flow of either, which is what I am looking for. I will probably watch "Caretaker" tomorrow.
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I still think it’s kind of missing the point.

But it is fun to line them up chronologically. The only other TV thing that does this is watching Hercules/Xena or Buffy post-season three while alternating with Angel episodes. (The cross-references were so forced they made the Dominion War nods on VOY look good.)

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One thing I don't see people say enough about Voyager's cast: Tim Russ plays the Vulcan really well. Sometime even better than old Nimoy. And I always enjoys episodes where he's paired off with Neelyx (I said paired off not spliced together with. Let's not bring up Tuvix again.). Even in Caretaker he's the first member of the crew who meets him and you know these two will have a love/hate relationship going.

He has that Vulcan arrogance but doesn't look annoyed all the time like a certain Vulcan cut of fuckable meat that appeared one show later. Even in episodes where he's really doing his best to be unlikable like when he's trying to shape up a couple of Maquis officers that aren't up to Starfleet standards. You still respect the guy. He sure is mind meld happy thought.
 
I haven't religiously watched Voyager like tng & ds9 (🧩) but Tim Russ seemed to overplay a lot of Vulcanisms. And many times the writing is too cute. Personally, Jolene Blackock is peak post-Nimoy Vulcan. Who would imagine that Frankenstein's Barbie would end up a great actress by Enterprise season 3? However she was born only to play a Vulcan and totally incompatible with human characters
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
One thing I don't see people say enough about Voyager's cast: Tim Russ plays the Vulcan really well. Sometime even better than old Nimoy. And I always enjoys episodes where he's paired off with Neelyx (I said paired off not spliced together with. Let's not bring up Tuvix again.). Even in Caretaker he's the first member of the crew who meets him and you know these two will have a love/hate relationship going.

He has that Vulcan arrogance but doesn't look annoyed all the time like a certain Vulcan cut of fuckable meat that appeared one show later. Even in episodes where he's really doing his best to be unlikable like when he's trying to shape up a couple of Maquis officers that aren't up to Starfleet standards. You still respect the guy. He sure is mind meld happy thought.
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Tuvok is probably my favorite character of all the ST series (aside from anyone Norman Large plays, obviously).
 
Cnut said:
Personally, Jolene Blackock is peak post-Nimoy Vulcan.
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It’s hard to even judge, because they handed her a character that’s “sexy Vulcan with brain damage.” And that was that. Supposedly there was some pitch where she was gonna be a Romulan sleeper agent, would’ve made more sense than that space meth subplot which turned her into an emotional crackhead. T'Pol just doesn’t make the cut.
 
Captain Syrup said:
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It’s hard to even judge, because they handed her a character that’s “sexy Vulcan with brain damage.” And that was that. Supposedly there was some pitch where she was gonna be a Romulan sleeper agent, would’ve made more sense than that space meth subplot which turned her into an emotional crackhead. T'Pol just doesn’t make the cut.
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When she sneaks to the cargo bay to freebase Trellium-D it was so awful & funny. Who would've imagined Trek goes there? And after getting mind-raped with Space AIDS too.

I always remember that scene where T'pol's on treadmills with Archer and he's just dying while she literally hasn't broken a sweat. Blalock's acting definitely improved, as the characterization improved.

Here's a theory: since Blalock was less experienced, she really took into the role. Compare to Archer who is just any old Bakula. Supposedly Blalock loved TOS and Nimoy in particular, though I couldn't cite that.

Romulan sleeper agent doesn't really make any sense; she was very loyal to the Science Council until they kept fucking her over. ("But that's why its called sleeper agent!") Also that would just be totally dumb. Double also, they already had Robert Foxworth character who caused massive shit including killing T'pol's mom.
 
Do you guys remember when Futurama parodied the series by saying the fandon would grow so large it would become a religion?
Looking back at it makes it even more depressing how the franchise devolved into the absolute worst slop immaginable.
 
UnKillFill said:
Miles' casual (and justified) racism against the cardies has always amused me. Even if he didn't already hate them before this episode, I bet he would now.
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One of my favorite moments in the show is a result of some anti-cardie racism. I tried to find the clip, but somebody(probably O’Brien) drops the s-slur in front of Garak, and he gives this indignant “SPOONHEAD?!” that cracks me up every time.
 
bango skank said:
One of my favorite moments in the show is a result of some anti-cardie racism. I tried to find the clip, but somebody(probably O’Brien) drops the s-slur in front of Garak, and he gives this indignant “SPOONHEAD?!” that cracks me up every time.
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Yeah, there were those moments in TNG and Star Trek VI where they were planning to crank up the space racism but someone on set got scared and said "no I won't say it/direct it."
 
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