Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Clown College 2nd Year said:
Ya Worf and Troi felt a little forced, but it was used for the sake of advancing the episodes storyline so I just kind of ignore it.
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It only even started because of that dumb parallel universe episode, (The one that means nothing we see on screen actually matters.)
They never had any sort of real chemistry in the other episodes they were together in, and I honestly don't even see what either of them see in the other.

It led to Riker and Worf hating each other in the "bad" future of "All Good Things" (Which ironically ended up being a better overall future than ST:Picard)
 
I actually really like Lower decks and think it fits in completely fine at least as well as early season TNG.
The actually Trek content of away missions and alien cultures is what the franchise is supposed to be about, that it's mostly forgotten since the second half of ENT and the ghost of 9/11 which gave us 24 in spaaace and tainted all that came after, until now.
 
Mound Dweller said:
I actually really like Lower decks and think it fits in completely fine at least as well as early season TNG.
The actually Trek content of away missions and alien cultures is what the franchise is supposed to be about, that it's mostly forgotten since the second half of ENT and the ghost of 9/11 which gave us 24 in spaaace and tainted all that came after, until now.
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It's better than most of what passes for trek these days, (not saying much) but what bugs me is the constant casual references to things that we as an audience know about, but there's no way in hell would be common knowledge to a Starfleet ensign.
I recently saw someone say that Lower Decks seems like it was written by people who memorized a bunch of random pages of the star trek wiki, hence the constant random obscure references, but they clearly never actually watched an actual episode of the show... so they don't know how bizarre it is that a group of the lowest ranked ensigns on the ship would know about fucking Tuvix of all things... (There is no way that wouldn't be classified... Janeway literally fucking murdered a crewman.) Or any one of the other many random references this show constantly makes.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
It's better than most of what passes for trek these days, (not saying much) but what bugs me is the constant casual references to things that we as an audience know about, but there's no way in hell would be common knowledge to a Starfleet ensign.
I recently saw someone say that Lower Decks seems like it was written by people who memorized a bunch of random pages of the star trek wiki, hence the constant random obscure references, but they clearly never actually watched an actual episode of the show... so they don't know how bizarre it is that a group of the lowest ranked ensigns on the ship would know about fucking Tuvix of all things... (There is no way that wouldn't be classified... Janeway literally fucking murdered a crewman.) Or any one of the other many random references this show constantly makes.
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It is the wacky cartoon companion series but the fact the silly "everyone is high on Orion drugs 24/7" timeline manages to be more Trek tha official regular Trek says it all really, the in-universe meta-knowledge is grating as are the quips but it still manages to be authentic because at least they skimmed the wikis and aren't trying to make their own story or any of that nonsense, where else have we had actual Klingon content and space cow harvesting? The other series are all about gayass idpol tainted shit like muh timeline or muh doomed future or muh michael buirnham etc, because LD is truly the last bastion of actual traditional Trek.
 
LD is just a silly little show about pop culture references and I'm fine with that. It's better than the rest of what nuTrek has done since 2009. It's the entry drug for zoomers and that's good enough for me. Could the characters of LD exist in any other OldTrek show? I don't know, probably not.
 
What if those Borg were "upgraded" to have the bodies of Cybermen from Doctor Who, yet also otherwise had Borg abilities and technologies? Like Cybermen with a green light theme, Borg cube ships, Borg voices, the ability to adapt to weapons, and stuff like that? There was this one crossover comic where the Borg allied with the Cybermen IIRC.

(In Doctor Who, the Cybermen call assimilating "upgrading" BTW.)
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Despite "seeking perfection", it's odd the Borg still cling to being so biological... despite the weakness of biology that seem to counter Borg values. Biology is constant chemistry.


Sounds WH40K Nekron-ish.
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iirc it was the second Cybermen story? def one of the early ones
Expedition by Some Guys is out to archaeologize an underground cave of the Cybermen while Second Doctor and companions tag along.
the Cybermen remain inert and nothing of interest happens
one of the few single-episode stores of the Moe Howard era

but yeah, as you might expect, Cybermen happen, people run down corridors, cliffhangers occur as synth music goes weee woooo, the usual
 
It seems like the Borg just wait for their forcefield to adapt rather than increasing the armor plating. They somehow are able to work in the vacuum of space despite any space suit.
Cables are a bit of a weak spot though. They obviously haven't assimilated Apple.
 
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