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Oh shit this makes me assmad just reading it

Why? lol

Okay I'll try explaining it a bit more than just "he's a soldier and hates hippies". So he was in the Romulan War and shortly after the Federation was formed. Suddenly with the war being over, "souldja boy" felt out of place and resented the peace. Then he got fucked and blasted off to Altamid via a wormhole. He and 3-4 of his crewmembers ended up surviving. After being left alone on this planet with his distress call going unanswered, his feelings of being left behind by Federation grew and he came to hate it entirely. I'm guessing using that tech to suck the life out of other living creatures to extend his own life didn't exactly help his sanity either, but that's just my own feelings.

Wow, this makes even less sense and is even more retarded than I remember, lol. This movie is up there with Star Trek V and Enterprise in its stupidity. Then again,a as Chris Pine said, you can't do intellectual Trek anymore, it's not marketable. It really shows.


I can't exactly remember how the interior of the Franklin looked, but the exterior looked fairly Enterprise-ish. I thought it fit well from the time it was supposed to be unlike the Enterprise which really feels like it's more advanced than the TNG-era Enterprises visually.

As for the interior designs, I'm probably being too mean but they look so generic sci fi as opposed to stylized Trek
 
Star Trek isn't exactly a manly-man show. Sure, Kirk makes out with a lot of chicks and there's some action in all of the shows, but it still has much more talking and fun stories that aren't just going to appeal to men. Really weird for someone to think Trek strictly appeals to men in the end. Especially when you take a look at Voyager which sometimes feels like GRRRRRL power the show.
Gay as an insult always gets under my nerves a little too. Not really because those poor homos are offended by it, but it's lazy as hell to use. I only really see it used when someone wants to say something negative about a show/movie/game, but has no real criticism to offer so they just say that it's "gay". I'd be pretty buttmad if I tried to get my girlfriend to experience something that I hold close to my heart like LotGH or Planescape: Torment only to get a "Nah that shit is hella gay fam, I'mma pass" in return.
 
Hate to break it to you, but prancing around in bright colored spandex and tight pants while trumpets blast and shit is hella gay fam, no matter how many spaceships they do it on.
 
Hate to break it to you, but prancing around in bright colored spandex and tight pants while trumpets blast and shit is hella gay fam, no matter how many spaceships they do it on.
Ain't gay when that shit applies to the girls too. Those female uniforms on TOS were pretty great to look at and there were other pretty great outfits on the show. Also DS9's mirror universe had some pretty hot shit in it nigga. Voyager also had that Borg girl who I haven't seen yet, Enterprise has titties all over, and the nu-movies have their fair share of babes. The gayest thing in Star Trek is Sulu in Beyond and that's acceptable levels of gay.
 
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Star Trek isn't exactly a manly-man show. Sure, Kirk makes out with a lot of chicks and there's some action in all of the shows, but it still has much more talking and fun stories that aren't just going to appeal to men. Really weird for someone to think Trek strictly appeals to men in the end. Especially when you take a look at Voyager which sometimes feels like GRRRRRL power the show.
Gay as an insult always gets under my nerves a little too. Not really because those poor homos are offended by it, but it's lazy as hell to use. I only really see it used when someone wants to say something negative about a show/movie/game, but has no real criticism to offer so they just say that it's "gay". I'd be pretty buttmad if I tried to get my girlfriend to experience something that I hold close to my heart like LotGH or Planescape: Torment only to get a "Nah that shit is hella gay fam, I'mma pass" in return.

I agree but he thinks its gay because its all about peace and optimism and not blowing people up, and he hasn't obviously seen the NuTrek, lol
 
Dreadful. I've made my thoughts known earlier in the thread, but sitting through it is a miserable experience. Also, the people who try to contend that there's a grand message to the film are wrong because we have reports from people from behind the scenes that it was a sloppy production disaster that was actually intentionally sabotaged by Gene Roddenberry in places because he was butthurt that his ideas weren't getting used.

You have to watch the director's cut where they overhauled all the effects according to the original artwork and plans. It is visually magnificent.
 
You have to watch the director's cut where they overhauled all the effects according to the original artwork and plans. It is visually magnificent.
I did. Didn't like it any better. Shiny things only hold my attention for so long.
 
Hate to break it to you, but prancing around in bright colored spandex and tight pants while trumpets blast and shit is hella gay fam, no matter how many spaceships they do it on.
There was some early episode of Tng where the whole planet ran around in bandages or some shit. Some extra Roddenberry probably got a blowjob from that dude whose balls were very prominent and I was just embarrassed at the costume design. Sadly, in that ep Wesley Crusher was sentenced to death but didn't actually get executed
 
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What do Kiwis think of the first movie (The Motion Picture)?
The slow motion picture? It's awesome to watch high and/or with friends. It's so fucking bizarre.
I'm pretty happy any time something I like gets a larger budget

There was some early episode of Tng where the whole planet ran around in bandages or some shit. Some extra Roddenberry probably got a blowjob from's balls were very prominent and I was just embarrassed at the costume design. Sadly, in that ep Wesley Crusher was sentenced to death but didn't actually get executed

That episode is such a tease :( its up there with the Shut Up Wesley episode (datalore)


I watched Inserrection last weekend. I thought it was pretty good. It's probably my 2nd favorite tng movie after first contact.

Voyager also had that Borg girl who I haven't seen yet
Are you joking I'm extremely disappoint in you.

As far as gay trek, they never really did too much with that. What comes to mind is the episode with Riker and the non-gendered person race, and in ds9, there is an episode where Dax had a fling with one of her symbiotes previous spouse whose host is a woman now.
That was lame because they make a big show about how trill shouldn't continue old relationships when they have a new host but Ezri bangs worf later and it's cool
 
Are you joking I'm extremely disappoint in you.

As far as gay trek, they never really did too much with that. What comes to mind is the episode with Riker and the non-gendered person race, and in ds9, there is an episode where Dax had a fling with one of her symbiotes previous spouse whose host is a woman now.
That was lame because they make a big show about how trill shouldn't continue old relationships when they have a new host but Ezri bangs worf later and it's cool
Everytime I try and watch Voyager I get bored and do something else tbh.
Wasn't the Ezri banging Worf thing just kind of reinforcing how Trill shouldn't continue old relationships also? I mean it ended kind of badly.
 
Everytime I try and watch Voyager I get bored and do something else tbh.
Wasn't the Ezri banging Worf thing just kind of reinforcing how Trill shouldn't continue old relationships also? I mean it ended kind of badly.
I thought ezri and worf ended ok, I thought it was really cute that they became friends.
It bothers me because in the episode with Jadzia and the other trill girl they make a big deal about how you get banned from trill society or something if you continue an old relationship. Then ezri just handwaves that away later.
Maybe it's different because worf isn't trill, idk.
I think as far as voyager you could probably skip to Scorpion. Seven of Nine is gold, one of my favorite characters
 
Major splerging ahead:

What do Kiwis think of the first movie (The Motion Picture)?

It's not as bad as everyone says it is, but it's amazingly boring and uninspired. Has a fascinating development history that's more interesting than the actual film. I only really like II, IV, VI and First Contact. The rest of the films are meh

And since I have nowhere to put this, I like this interview and clip about Nemesis:


Still a bad film but I don't hate it as much as everyone else

Wasn't the Ezri banging Worf thing just kind of reinforcing how Trill shouldn't continue old relationships also? I mean it ended kind of badly.

The trill thing was a nonsensical addition that was only created to have some "taboo" lesbian kiss scene in a DS9 episode, seriously.

As far as gay trek, they never really did too much with that. What comes to mind is the episode with Riker and the non-gendered person race, and in ds9, there is an episode where Dax had a fling with one of her symbiotes previous spouse whose host is a woman now.
That was lame because they make a big show about how trill shouldn't continue old relationships when they have a new host but Ezri bangs worf later and it's cool

Well there were plans, at least for TNG and DS9, to have more exploration of LGBT themes, which shouldn't surprise anyone given the franchises clear progressive lefty bent (I mean the characters live in a communist utopia..) but it was constantly axed by producers. There was an episode planned to feature Wesley dating an alien girl who gets a sex change, for example. The guy who played Garak wanted to make the character bisexual and sexually attracted to Bashir. I read somewhere that many of the core writers of TNG wanted to portray the 24th century has having trans and other such stuff be commonplace, which could have been interesting, but people like Rick Berman axed it out of fear they'd make viewers uncomfortable. Kinda ironic if you know anything about TOS.

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Interesting video that addresses a lot of the Discovery rumors.

Ok, I watched your video, thanks for sharing this. Originally I wrote a blurb about being "cautiously optimistic" about Discovery, but I honestly have not followed much about it. This video however confirms much of my worst fears. I mean I was mainly optimistic because of the fact it was being headed and written by actual Trek writers: Bryan Fuller, Nicholas Meyer, Joe Menosky, three of the best writers of Trek. And while I never suspected it'd ever be as good as the heydays of TNG/DS9, and not have anything like the strong characterization and intriguing ideas that era of Trek had (given how television is nowadays), I was still optimistic. But the fact is, I figured CBS would not want a "real" (i.e. non-braindead) Trek and would force the writers to dumb down their material and make it essentially just JJ Abrams Trek on TV, and that's apparently what's going on, albeit times ten with much autism. They fired Fuller and sidelined or shitcanned the rest of the "old guard" of Trek they originally hired? Plus the WTF changes to make some sort of "transdimensional" bullshit...like...what? I'm not optimistic anymore, and expect the show will suck. I'll probably like Enterprise more if all these rumors are true (and Enterprise honestly isn't that bad, just sayin') The video even points out, despite the Abrams films doing well, most fans prefer the original "canon" and its look and feel, and clearly expect a tv series to follow that, so yet again, corporate executives meddling and fucking up. Of course these are all rumors, but apparently the channel has a good track record? And some of what they say fits with what we know


Anyway, I've been playing some old Star Trek games, the two Interplay adventure games from the early 90s, and unlike most Trek games, they're actually pretty good. They're like interactive episodes done right, with the entire original cast. There was a third one in the works by Interplay in the late 90's, "Secrets of Vulcan Fury" that looked pretty impressive:


It was cancelled apparently because Interplay underestimated how ambitious the game apparently was and it was too expensive. It was even going to be written by DC Fontana. There's also a TNG point and click adventure staring the TNG cast that people tell me is pretty good, but it's not on GOG or Stream so I haven't been able to play it yet.

There was also a Star Trek Voyager game in the works by Ken Levine, who's cancellation pissed him off so much, it was the reason he left Looking Glass and formed Irrational Games. So there's an odd bit of video game trivia for you.
 
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I'm confused, is this in nu-Star Trek timeline or original Star Trek timeline?
I'll watch it though. If it's better than Voyager or Enterprise then I might get past Season 2.


Fuller said it was going to be set in the prime timeline, but since he left, who knows. Sure doesn't look like it.

Lots of rumors flying around with this show
 
I'm confused, is this in nu-Star Trek timeline or original Star Trek timeline?
I'll watch it though. If it's better than Voyager or Enterprise then I might get past Season 2.
It's supposed to be the original timeline though they are clearly copying the aesthetic of Abrams-Trek.

It doesn't look terrible, Spock getting shoehorned in seems like a red flag. CBS streaming is going to be a clusterfuck. The trailer they hosted on their website required Flash.
 
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