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Here's the plot for Star Fleet Battles simply because I love this game so much and will take any chance to talk about it
After the Organians forced a peace upon the Federation and Klingon's (ToS episode) things go quiet for many years
Eventually the Orgainians transcend the material universe or otherwise just leave. Once the Klingons find out they begin planning an attack on the Federation. In their eyes the war is inevitable so its best to strike first. The Federation is unaware of the Klingon plans being involved in a war with a minor power (Kzinti's) at the time.
The Khitomer accords are signed. In this universe the allies the Romulan Star Empire with the Klingon Empire vs the Federation as both Empires see the Federation as the major danger to their ongoing survival. The Romulans trade some technology to the Klingons who use it to produce plasma weapons and cloaking adding to some of their ship designs. Oddly enough the Romulans do not use any Klingon technology deeming it useless to their style of warfare.
A surprise attack is launched on the Federation by both the Klingons and Romulans resulting in massive loss of territory and ships as it catches the Federation completely by surprise. The Khitomer alliance drives deep into Federation space, threatening the core worlds of the Federation.
The minor powers (Gorn, Kzinti, Hydran and Tholian) take this opportunity to strike back at their oppressors pulling ships and resources from the Federation front and easing the pressure on the Federation at a critical time. This allows the Federation ships to gather their far flung ships ,most notable their most powerful ships the Constitution class heavy cruisers. Who make their presence known by driving back the Klingon forces threatening the Core Worlds and the real war begins.
With almost all of the minor and major powers now fighting thus dawns the time known as the General War.
The General War drags on for 6 years with great losses on every side. After a partially devastating battle where the Federation loses 3 Constitution class cruisers they quickly realize that they cannot keep sustaining these losses as while each Federation ship is generally superior to its adversaries they take too long to built and cost too much and production cannot keep up with losses. Their solution is to design a carrier ship to bring attrition style fighters (think armed shuttles but faster) to tip the scales in their favor along with cheaper war cruisers which are deigned to be cheap to make and fast to produce but with limited utility and little survivalibilty.
The new carrier's and their fighters are successful at crippling the Klingon and Romulan fleets, driving them back to the original boarders. The fighters suffer 90% casualty rates but the Federation deems this acceptable losses as fighters are cheap to replace and continues to push into Alliance territory. The Alliance counters this new tactic by introducing carriers of their own and the war drags on.
By this point in time all major and minor powers are exhausted, relying on cheap attrition style units to conduct the fighting but are reaching the breaking point. The Romans design a small Fast Attack ship (think up-gunned Runabouts) , bigger then a fighter and with shields and warp capable with only a 5 man crew but capable of sweeping fighters out of space and working in packs to destroy capital ships. After losing several irreplaceable carriers the Federation withdraws out of Alliance territory and regroups it fleets.
The General War continues to drag on, entering it 10th year, all powers have now adopted fast attack craft as their mainstay of warfare and capital ship become rare and no longer risked in battle as replacing them is almost impossible due to lack of resources. 10 years of war, billions of deaths and the Great Powers boarders are back to where they started. All empires are exhausted and fighting is limited to sorties of fast attack ships doing raids and quick strikes. Peace is not an option as the Klingons still feel they can win by exhausting the Federations will to fight.
On the far side of the galaxy a power known as the Interstellar Concordium (ISC) is formed by many smaller species with the purpose to bring the General War to an end by separating the Great Powers and enforcing a peace thru police actions. (think the UN but with a working army). The ISC purpose builds ships and tactics to make a workable gunline to overcome the smaller, weaker ships of the Great Powers. Since they have not been fighting for the last decade the ISC are able to match the number of ships of all three Great Powers and they launch their police action driving deep into the war zones. Their goals are quickly met as they overwhelm the exhausted forces and bring peace thru power to the galaxy for the first time in a decade.
All three Great Powers condemn the ISC but in reality are powerless to fight and retreat to rebuild their shattered fleets and worlds.
Unknown to all a new invader has settled in the galaxy. This new species is totally alien to the Milkyway and are very different both in outlook and technology. They do not communicate, take prisoners or conquer planets. They only come to destroy. They are called Andromedians by the local powers and up to this date have been nothing but a minor nuisance, raiding and attacking across the galaxy but in very small numbers.
This changes as the Andro's launch a full scale invasion and catching the ISC whose forces are thinly spread, off guard they practically annihilate them in a few weeks. The Andro's technology is completed different then the galactic powers. They have mastered transporter technology and are capable to transporting whole ships around like toys. They don't use shields instead they panels to adsorb incoming fire and use it to power their systems and their weapons can literally tear starships in half. With most of the galaxy exhausted by a decade of war the Andro's seem to be invincible.
The galactic powers now make peace and band together to fight off this invasion. The Grand Alliance is formed as all species agree to band together to prevent total destruction.
The few years of peace enforced by the ISC was not wasted and the Great Powers had rebuilt some of their fleets with newer technology ships with lessons learned from the Great War and start to push back against the invaders but suffer heavy losses as the invaders technology is so different and their numbers so large.
In a desperation the Grand Alliance works together for the first time, Klingon, Federation and Romulan ships all fighting in the same fleet. The disparity in tactics and slowly growing numbers of Alliance ships slowly, ever so slowly starts to dampen the Andro's control of the galaxy. Working together the Alliance develops the X-Ships. Advanced technology ships designed to fight on a even field versus the invaders (think TNG ships) and using these few X-ships and what ever remaining capital ships the powers have left they launch Operation Unity.
Operation Unity is a desperation gamble to launch a direct attack on the invaders main starbase in the Lower Magellanic Cloud with everything they have left in a hope to permanently cripple and destroy the Adromedians main staging areas.
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And this is where it ends. I'm assuming Operation Unity is successful and life goes back to normal.
SFB is and always will be one of my favorite tabletop games and I'm sad it fell out of favor but with a rule set that made WH40K look like Pokemon it was bound to happen as the ADH generation grew up. My Captains rulebook is 1000+ double sided, single spaced pages. On the plus side...if you can think it up, there's a rule for it allowing every match to be amazingly fun.
If your interested some crazy bastard (not me) wrote out the whole timeline on a monthly basis...its 13 pages.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/documents/Timeline.pdf
After the Organians forced a peace upon the Federation and Klingon's (ToS episode) things go quiet for many years
Eventually the Orgainians transcend the material universe or otherwise just leave. Once the Klingons find out they begin planning an attack on the Federation. In their eyes the war is inevitable so its best to strike first. The Federation is unaware of the Klingon plans being involved in a war with a minor power (Kzinti's) at the time.
The Khitomer accords are signed. In this universe the allies the Romulan Star Empire with the Klingon Empire vs the Federation as both Empires see the Federation as the major danger to their ongoing survival. The Romulans trade some technology to the Klingons who use it to produce plasma weapons and cloaking adding to some of their ship designs. Oddly enough the Romulans do not use any Klingon technology deeming it useless to their style of warfare.
A surprise attack is launched on the Federation by both the Klingons and Romulans resulting in massive loss of territory and ships as it catches the Federation completely by surprise. The Khitomer alliance drives deep into Federation space, threatening the core worlds of the Federation.
The minor powers (Gorn, Kzinti, Hydran and Tholian) take this opportunity to strike back at their oppressors pulling ships and resources from the Federation front and easing the pressure on the Federation at a critical time. This allows the Federation ships to gather their far flung ships ,most notable their most powerful ships the Constitution class heavy cruisers. Who make their presence known by driving back the Klingon forces threatening the Core Worlds and the real war begins.
With almost all of the minor and major powers now fighting thus dawns the time known as the General War.
The General War drags on for 6 years with great losses on every side. After a partially devastating battle where the Federation loses 3 Constitution class cruisers they quickly realize that they cannot keep sustaining these losses as while each Federation ship is generally superior to its adversaries they take too long to built and cost too much and production cannot keep up with losses. Their solution is to design a carrier ship to bring attrition style fighters (think armed shuttles but faster) to tip the scales in their favor along with cheaper war cruisers which are deigned to be cheap to make and fast to produce but with limited utility and little survivalibilty.
The new carrier's and their fighters are successful at crippling the Klingon and Romulan fleets, driving them back to the original boarders. The fighters suffer 90% casualty rates but the Federation deems this acceptable losses as fighters are cheap to replace and continues to push into Alliance territory. The Alliance counters this new tactic by introducing carriers of their own and the war drags on.
By this point in time all major and minor powers are exhausted, relying on cheap attrition style units to conduct the fighting but are reaching the breaking point. The Romans design a small Fast Attack ship (think up-gunned Runabouts) , bigger then a fighter and with shields and warp capable with only a 5 man crew but capable of sweeping fighters out of space and working in packs to destroy capital ships. After losing several irreplaceable carriers the Federation withdraws out of Alliance territory and regroups it fleets.
The General War continues to drag on, entering it 10th year, all powers have now adopted fast attack craft as their mainstay of warfare and capital ship become rare and no longer risked in battle as replacing them is almost impossible due to lack of resources. 10 years of war, billions of deaths and the Great Powers boarders are back to where they started. All empires are exhausted and fighting is limited to sorties of fast attack ships doing raids and quick strikes. Peace is not an option as the Klingons still feel they can win by exhausting the Federations will to fight.
On the far side of the galaxy a power known as the Interstellar Concordium (ISC) is formed by many smaller species with the purpose to bring the General War to an end by separating the Great Powers and enforcing a peace thru police actions. (think the UN but with a working army). The ISC purpose builds ships and tactics to make a workable gunline to overcome the smaller, weaker ships of the Great Powers. Since they have not been fighting for the last decade the ISC are able to match the number of ships of all three Great Powers and they launch their police action driving deep into the war zones. Their goals are quickly met as they overwhelm the exhausted forces and bring peace thru power to the galaxy for the first time in a decade.
All three Great Powers condemn the ISC but in reality are powerless to fight and retreat to rebuild their shattered fleets and worlds.
Unknown to all a new invader has settled in the galaxy. This new species is totally alien to the Milkyway and are very different both in outlook and technology. They do not communicate, take prisoners or conquer planets. They only come to destroy. They are called Andromedians by the local powers and up to this date have been nothing but a minor nuisance, raiding and attacking across the galaxy but in very small numbers.
This changes as the Andro's launch a full scale invasion and catching the ISC whose forces are thinly spread, off guard they practically annihilate them in a few weeks. The Andro's technology is completed different then the galactic powers. They have mastered transporter technology and are capable to transporting whole ships around like toys. They don't use shields instead they panels to adsorb incoming fire and use it to power their systems and their weapons can literally tear starships in half. With most of the galaxy exhausted by a decade of war the Andro's seem to be invincible.
The galactic powers now make peace and band together to fight off this invasion. The Grand Alliance is formed as all species agree to band together to prevent total destruction.
The few years of peace enforced by the ISC was not wasted and the Great Powers had rebuilt some of their fleets with newer technology ships with lessons learned from the Great War and start to push back against the invaders but suffer heavy losses as the invaders technology is so different and their numbers so large.
In a desperation the Grand Alliance works together for the first time, Klingon, Federation and Romulan ships all fighting in the same fleet. The disparity in tactics and slowly growing numbers of Alliance ships slowly, ever so slowly starts to dampen the Andro's control of the galaxy. Working together the Alliance develops the X-Ships. Advanced technology ships designed to fight on a even field versus the invaders (think TNG ships) and using these few X-ships and what ever remaining capital ships the powers have left they launch Operation Unity.
Operation Unity is a desperation gamble to launch a direct attack on the invaders main starbase in the Lower Magellanic Cloud with everything they have left in a hope to permanently cripple and destroy the Adromedians main staging areas.
[/SPOILER]
And this is where it ends. I'm assuming Operation Unity is successful and life goes back to normal.
SFB is and always will be one of my favorite tabletop games and I'm sad it fell out of favor but with a rule set that made WH40K look like Pokemon it was bound to happen as the ADH generation grew up. My Captains rulebook is 1000+ double sided, single spaced pages. On the plus side...if you can think it up, there's a rule for it allowing every match to be amazingly fun.
If your interested some crazy bastard (not me) wrote out the whole timeline on a monthly basis...its 13 pages.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/documents/Timeline.pdf
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I don't mean to be unkind to NERDS, but caring about the "canon" of a TV show about spaceships, or movies about spaceships and muppets, is one of those things they should probably stop doing.
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The Robert O'Reilly Klingon games were also pure gold for their live action scenes. He cranks the hamminess up to 11. Star Trek: Klingon is Gowron freed of all restraints of good taste. There are also several other TNG-era cameos at their absolute worst.
Then of course there is "Kavok", the notorious Bij guy from that VCR/board game "A Klingon Challenge" also played by Robert O'Reilly.
Then of course there is "Kavok", the notorious Bij guy from that VCR/board game "A Klingon Challenge" also played by Robert O'Reilly.
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The Trek novelverse was always a project of the authors and never had official sanction as a layer of canon that the SW EU did. After Enterprise ended, they agreed to basically do their own expanded universe(the authors). The Trek EU had far less a fan base than the Sw one did, but it was a much more engaged one and so you had a lot of inter connecting and branching plots based on the shows.
It’s elimination doesn’t surprise me, but the fact they went out of their way to just…blow it up is shocking.
It’s elimination doesn’t surprise me, but the fact they went out of their way to just…blow it up is shocking.
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Since canon has now become just another meaningless marketing buzzword, that may legitimately come to pass.
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More than what the media companies do.
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I just had a random thought...
I know Trek games are probably inherently difficult to make. You can't (usually) get too violent in them... or at least you couldn't before what passes for current-day Trek...
But I have to ask, why didn't they ever make a Trek game set in the Mirror universe? It's always fun to play as the bad guys.
It doesn't *really* matter which Trek this hypothetical game was based on. (With the possible exception of DS9... As great as it was in general, it did the mirror universe dirty.)
My personal preference would be playing a game where you controlled a mirror TNG Enterprise.
I know there are already mirror universe books about pretty much every Trek crew. I even read the mirror universe TNG comics, and I actually *liked* them. We can all debate "canon" forever, but I'd rather just play as a member of evil starfleet in a videogame.
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My favorite Trek game is DS9 : The Fallen
Also the Excalibur mentioned in that list is from the New Frontier series by Peter David. Which was a great series apart from the furry hermaphrodite engineer that married and had a kid with Selar
Also the Excalibur mentioned in that list is from the New Frontier series by Peter David. Which was a great series apart from the furry hermaphrodite engineer that married and had a kid with Selar
Ike Aim
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It really does makes zero sense from a canon point of view. Takes place partially on the Enterprise-D but uses Voyager interior sets with a combination of TNG and DS9 uniforms and of course the "Borg invasion" itself simply didn't happen. However, I think it's great that the first character seen on screen during the FMV segements appears to be Tracee Cocco as the famous Lt. Jae, the most cross-trained person in Starfleet.
Star Wars EU may be a slightly more nuanced sitaution, I don't know, but most licensed litverses are shit on purpose. They're a way for authors to unload their C and D-grade stories by putting a thin candy coating of some successful franchise on top. If they were writing a great book, they'd have every incentive to set it aside, change the names and setting, and try to push it off as their own unique IP. It's funny to me that that is literally all Star Trek is now, essentially. It's bad, generic sci-fi (or fantasy) writing under a Star Trek license. It's possible to have really great litverses, but I just don't think there's much motivation for it apart from those IPs that originated as or built their core audience with books.
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Shattered Universe. It was a pilot sim game on the PS2.
That being said, I was playing Deus Ex Mankind Divided and that's like a Star Trek game. It penalizes you for killing, stun weapons are useful, there's an involved negotiation system, and it's set in the future.
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Just wait until the switch from Bantam Spectra to Del Rey. A few readers are still sort of bitter about how they changed styles. It used to be that Bantam would talk to big sci-fi writers about working on Star Wars, ask for a proposal, approve or disapprove, then let them go at it. But under Del Rey, most books had to fill in slots on these massive, dozen-book long storylines that were structured at the editorial level.
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Here’s something really fucking oldschool. I’m genuinely interested to know how many people in this thread are even aware of Stone Trek, let alone anyone who remembers it from back in the day. It’s pretty much what it looks like; a mutant hybrid of the Flintstones and Star Trek TOS. Filled to the brim with bad jokes, puns, and boomer humor. The first episodes are copyrighted as far back as 2000, which is kind of an interesting era internet-wise where boomer humor still reigned supreme and the post-9/11 edgelord era of Newgrounds hadn’t really gotten its footing yet.
The show does live up to its stone-age aesthetics in more ways than one. The humor is often painfully dated, mostly treading over the usual ground of Shatner jokes, making fun of Star Trek clichés like having a dead redshirt count, making common references to other franchises like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Star Wars, and in general it’s barely even a surface level parody of the show its aping. This isn’t really a huge problem, it’s a flash animation from fucking 2000, you can’t exactly ask for much, and this was a bit before nerd wank ruined making references to shit altogether, but someone with modern sensibilities might find it rather unfunny.
Additionally something else that’s antiquated about the show is unfortunately its animation quality; which is choppy as Hell. The audio quality is also shit; sometimes I can barely hear what the characters are saying to each other. Again though, this was released back in 2000 and to be fair it actually looks pretty good for that era.
Still, I’d like to know what you guys think of it, especially in comparison to modern shit like Lower Decks. Is it way better? Guilty of some of the same laziness? Or is it unfunny in its own way?
Here's the old Angelfire website, along with archives of it:
https://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer/STONETREK.html
If you scroll to the bottom of the page there's a couple of other Trek; parodies I didn't feel like archiving them all.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080622053501/http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer/STONETREKDOTCOM.html
https://archive.ph/7m4ih
https://archive.fo/qadxE
https://archive.ph/WuIS9
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Is that the fucking mayor of Chicago?
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The mayor of Chicago being a changeling who wants to exterminate all humans. It all starts to make sense now.
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I remember watching Stone Trek episodes when they were new on Shockwave's website. I still watch the "Star Trekkin" video from time to time.
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Come on now, Beetlejuice doesn't want to kill all humans.
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Well, the only thing that creature did was just linger in the background and cheat at gambling.