Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Looking elsewhere on the net, seems reviews are pretty positive regarding the Coda trilogy. I haven’t read it myself and doubt I ever will to be honest.

The old EU in SW was left just hanging in forever limbo, legacy volume 2 was quickly wrapped up and denning changed the ending of crucible, but the fates of major characters was left undecided.

In Trek they apparently decide to just kill them all and the timeline? Simply to accommodate the new shows?

I’m of two minds on this-one part of me prefers the SW one-you can imagine in your own mind a “definitive” ending or continuation of the story of characters like Cade or Jaina. Without some sort of hasty finale to bookmark the timeline.

Another part of me appreciates the closure and not being left hanging and coming up with your own unsatisfying head canon or fanfic.

I read Destiny and a little bit of of some other stuff but followed the novel verse with some interest. I really wanted to see it get into the 25th century and beyond. I guess I can just ignore the Coda ending, but ah well.
 
Sexual Chocolate said:
I mean, since we're living in a cyberpunk dystopia it's a fair assumption the future will be even fatter and gayer amirite



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These uniforms suck, but idk enough about fashion to explain why they suck, exactly. I guess the first problem is they look like generic wardrobe from a SyFy production made in Canada. They're not stylish enough to say "the future!", but they're also not practical looking. STE had pretty bland, low key uniforms, but they looked like something people would actually wear to work in a spacegoing submarine

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It reminds me of when a company like Nike or Reebok gets their hands on the contract for pro sports uniforms and wants to prove how "innovative" they are. They will immediately ruin unis by putting on nonsensical elements that add nothing and only appeal to retarded Zoomers. For example, the dreaded "apron strings" that plagued the NHL for years.

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USS Soyuz (Frasier's ship) was still in service as of Star Trek: Generations as one of the ships in the flotilla picking up Enterprise D crew at the end of the movie.

Regarding Starfleet color coded uniforms it is most likely due to Roddenberry serving in the US Navy. Who had gone full blown power ranger color coding on the flight deck crews decade or two before super Sentai existed.
 
BadatGames said:
If I recall correctly there was a novel that covered some of the fallout from Captain Bateson, called Ship of the Line.

I enjoyed it well enough, there are a bunch of great old Star Trek novels I need to re-read Federation.
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Federation is still my pick for not just best Trek novel, but just a plain great scifi novel period.

As for the Star Wars EU... i keep threatening (while drunk) to write a fan fic about a last jedi in a far flung dystopian future sending his mind to the past to try and change what happened only to screw up and create the sequel trilogy.

Then the sequels had to go and be more dystopian than anything I could invent.
 
You know, thinking of Discovery's plot and Picard-ignoring the SJWism of the shows, the ideas involved-namely the Federation collapses, and a more "realistic" or "hardass" portrayal of Starfleet characters has long been a fanfiction, and fan wish fulfillment trope since the 2000s if not before.

Part of it was the whole the Federation are hippy namby pambies who will collapse when faced with a hard challenge (TM) or what have you. The end of FTL travel and Discovery doing everything possible to disassociate its events from prior stuff (the Q haven't been seen in centuries, really?), tells me the writers ultimately just don't like the setting as established, and want a "grittier" sci fi.

As opposed to you know, the inherent optimism in Trek for yet another lame derivative of "hard men (or black girl bosses in Discovery's case) make explosion in space" which I'm pretty sure is a fairly common sci fi formula.
 
I still stand by my belief that Admiral "Sheer Fucking Hubris" in STP would have been an infinitely better character, even with no line changes, if she was instead either Admiral Bitcheav or Admiral Janeway.
 
Shamash said:
You know, thinking of Discovery's plot and Picard-ignoring the SJWism of the shows, the ideas involved-namely the Federation collapses, and a more "realistic" or "hardass" portrayal of Starfleet characters has long been a fanfiction, and fan wish fulfillment trope since the 2000s if not before.

Part of it was the whole the Federation are hippy namby pambies who will collapse when faced with a hard challenge (TM) or what have you. The end of FTL travel and Discovery doing everything possible to disassociate its events from prior stuff (the Q haven't been seen in centuries, really?), tells me the writers ultimately just don't like the setting as established, and want a "grittier" sci fi.

As opposed to you know, the inherent optimism in Trek for yet another lame derivative of "hard men (or black girl bosses in Discovery's case) make explosion in space" which I'm pretty sure is a fairly common sci fi formula.
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It's literal fan fiction. This book was written in 2017.
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Control

Control is a Star Trek: Section 31 novel by author David Mack. The novel is a follow-up to Abyss, A Ceremony of Losses and Disavowed. No law… no conscience… no mercy. Amoral, shrouded in secrecy, and answering to no one, Section 31 is the mysterious covert operations division of Starfleet, a...
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Go ahead. Click the link. See if it sounds a bit familiar...
 
Flexo said:
It's literal fan fiction. This book was written in 2017.
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Control

Control is a Star Trek: Section 31 novel by author David Mack. The novel is a follow-up to Abyss, A Ceremony of Losses and Disavowed. No law… no conscience… no mercy. Amoral, shrouded in secrecy, and answering to no one, Section 31 is the mysterious covert operations division of Starfleet, a...
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Go ahead. Click the link. See if it sounds a bit familiar...
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I remember a lot of people were super pissed off at that book.
 
This week on STD:
Mikey Spock is, yet again, the smartest nigger ever and is always right. Everyone is cool with a sentient AI taking over the ship. The tranny Trill fucks off back to Trill because actors who have lines are expensive. The evil White Man talks Mikey Spock's gullible nigger fuck toy into helping him actually solving the issue. The only real Star Trek character, Capt. Saru, is gonna get his dick wet in some fine Vulcan MILF pussy so he gave her a plant. Lastly, David Cronenberg looks fucking bored and probably wishes he was on a real Star Trek series.

Does this dark matter superweapon shit remind anyone else of the Crystalline Entity form TNG? I was wrong about the Risan dude being controlled by the blue gills. The neck scar was from Emerald Chain slave control thing I guess? Fucked if I give two shits about STDs canon.
 
ForgottenUserName said:
Lastly, David Cronenberg looks fucking bored and probably wishes he was on a real Star Trek series.
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To me it feels like Cronenberg is only there because Kurtzman saw that Favreau got Herzog to guest star on The Mandalorian. Last season he added a cat, which was probably more expensive than Baby Yoda and this season most scenes are shot on a virtual set like The Mandalorian.
 
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