Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier
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To build upon what @Spud Stacker said...
One of the things you learn if you listen to people who actually grew up during that time period and dealt with real, actual racism back then is that the worst thing about it was were the tiny, constant reminders and irritations. Like the water fountains - just another reminder that you didn't belong, that you were not a part of society. Yes big, overt acts of racism would happen too and they happened too often, but they are memorable usually because they weren't an every day occurrence for everyone.
Of course a long, daily grind of this constant oppression isn't easily conveyed in a one or two hour TV show or movie. So I get that they have to try to condense that, which will end up compiling all of these separate incidents into one. The problem is that writing nowadays seems to be in an escalation war, with bad racial events happening more and more often with greater and great exaggeration. Now we've reached the point that Back to the Future is considered "unrealistic" because the future mayor of Hill Valley didn't go through an attempted lynching on screen. Now in TVs & movies, if a black character time travels to that period in America, they can't go 5 minutes without being attacked by the first white people they see.
Worse, you can't even discuss this without people freaking out and declaring you an apologist for racism. Listen, while bad things did happen back then, white people were busy with their own lives too. But to go by the media landscape, you'd be amazed white people had any time to have children, raise them, build houses, build cars, build roads, or even go bowling what with all the blacks, asians, jews, and irish they were running around beating up.
So while I do kind of like Far Beyond... to an extent, it is hard not to watch it as a precursor to all the media issues we have today.
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Got my hands on the first part of the Coda trilogy of books , they release one next month , and one in November
Purportedly bringing the post Nemesis relaunch books inline with current TV stuff.
So far Wesley's showed up at the Guardian's planet and is attacked by what sounds like the Devidian snake things
Purportedly bringing the post Nemesis relaunch books inline with current TV stuff.
So far Wesley's showed up at the Guardian's planet and is attacked by what sounds like the Devidian snake things
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So with today's Lower Decks episode we got a full blown orgy scene. (Nothing explicit directly shown and a censor bar is used in one part.)
A lot of implied nudity and orgies have been in this season. Pretty sure someone in the writing room has a fetish and is putting it in their work.
A lot of implied nudity and orgies have been in this season. Pretty sure someone in the writing room has a fetish and is putting it in their work.
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What's the context here?
Funny, I forgot about this thread for awhile, but recently had a dream that they were releasing Picard season 2 as well as a new Picard spinoff where Picard is a cat. In the dream, every consoomer and Redditor was excited for the new Picard as a cat show even though it didn't make any sense. I woke up angry at remembering the terrible Picard show existed again, and angry that the Picard cat show from my dream probably isn't out of the realm of stupid things they might do with the franchise, possibly even an improvement. Then I checked out this thread to see how things are going and this is the first thing I see.
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I'm a recovering consooomer and I also have dreams about Trek. My consooomer subconscious feels guilty for not watching the new shows. Except in my dreams, the new Star Trek show is absolutely awesome, with an all-star cast from all the 90s Trek shows.
Then I wake up and remember Trek sucks now and I feel sad.
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I legit don't mind the gay shit in Star Trek. But like, give me "deep" (or at least well-written) relationships like Kirk and Spock or Data and Geordi or Dax and that Trill lady (as far as that counts) or whatever the fuck Garak and Bashir had going on. But these "look omg gays!!!" moments in NuTrek absolutely wreck my faggoty little heart. This is just in your face sex and homosexuality for woke points and shock value - you'd think the franchise that spawned Pon Farr and Zanthi fever would manage to do this trope justice in a humorous but entertaining way. This is just embarrassing. Rick and Morty crossover when?
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Like, I watch this Lower Decks show and I can't help but think of another Star Trek inspired animated sci-fi comedy where one of the protagonists was a strong female, Futurama.
In Futurama, Lela was this strong female character but she was still the butt of jokes all the time and occasionally fucked up. They make fun of her for having a big nose, and sweaty boot feet and for being overly prone to violence, but she's still a strong female character and the most competent character on the show. It works because it's a comedy.
This Mariner character is literally never wrong and never makes mistakes. I watched the second episode and they make it seem like maybe she's going to have a human flaw and be overconfident, but then the "shocking" twist is she was planning everything all along. Surprise! Her character is literally just she's good at everything.
Jesus christ even on Rick and Morty, Rick fucks up sometimes and he's supposed to basically be a demigod.
In Futurama, Lela was this strong female character but she was still the butt of jokes all the time and occasionally fucked up. They make fun of her for having a big nose, and sweaty boot feet and for being overly prone to violence, but she's still a strong female character and the most competent character on the show. It works because it's a comedy.
This Mariner character is literally never wrong and never makes mistakes. I watched the second episode and they make it seem like maybe she's going to have a human flaw and be overconfident, but then the "shocking" twist is she was planning everything all along. Surprise! Her character is literally just she's good at everything.
Jesus christ even on Rick and Morty, Rick fucks up sometimes and he's supposed to basically be a demigod.
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AS I think I've sperged on here before, what bugs me is that they get so "tunnel vision" on this representative stuff they miss out on real interesting questions and possibilities.
For example: Odo / Kira. Gay romance? Thank carefully before you answer
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Changing the subject to something a bit more innocent and silly:
When I was a kid I used to think the Enterprise was real, and the planets that it orbited were actually Earth disguised by special effects.
When I was a kid I used to think the Enterprise was real, and the planets that it orbited were actually Earth disguised by special effects.
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So Lower Decks is less Star Trek and more adult cartoon. But is it atleast funny or somewhat entertaining?
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Well I can definitely feel a decidedly icier mood towards Rick and Morty Trek after that orgy episode. Nice going producers, you managed to extinguish the barest fucking ember of hype you had kindled, and you didnt even need woke theatrics to do it.
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The Q of Star Trek are incorporeal "beings of pure thought".
The Warp from Warhammer 40,000 is a realm of "pure psychic energy".
The Q Continuum is outside of "3D space", or is the realm between universes in the multiverse, I gather.
The Warp of Warhammer 40,000 is in hyperspace, outside of normal spacetime.
Are the Q like the demons of Chaos?
The Warp from Warhammer 40,000 is a realm of "pure psychic energy".
The Q Continuum is outside of "3D space", or is the realm between universes in the multiverse, I gather.
The Warp of Warhammer 40,000 is in hyperspace, outside of normal spacetime.
Are the Q like the demons of Chaos?
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Damn, now I want to see the Chaos Gods, all played by John DeLancie in cheap costumes, bickering and mugging at the camera.
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I cannot believe these are actual stills from the show... A part of my brain says "nah, someone animated this as a joke to prank @Aqua Panda..."
Fuck this shit, fuck it. Also, this 100% confirms the audience target is not young people.
(pic #3 can pass as random tumblr fan art)
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Gene Rodenberry was merely one of the Emperor's human guises. That's also his real appearance. Yeah his power armor in the Horus Heresy was a lot smaller than depicted and also painted red.
Anyway I just watched the ds9 season 6 Finale.
...I have to say it's middling. Since it's a finale I'll spoiler it.
So the show is about invading Cardassia prime. Cool premise.
But then it's not really about the Cardassia prime invasion, it's more about getting to Cardassia prime. Instantly less cool.
Then you get the prophets asking Benjamin Sisko to remain behind on the station while their amassed fleet goes off to the invasion.
So, the Bajor wormhole is the most strategic critical position in the entire war. The prophets, aka the wormhole aliens, aka the people keeping the dominion out of the entire quadrant, has just contacted the commander of the station guarding that wormhole: Benjamin Sisko to tell him 'no don't go with the invasion fleet, stay here, it's dangerous'. And the reaction of Star Fleet is 'pshaw, whatever, those aliens ain't important, you better either resign or bloody well lead the invasion effort.
It's just dumb.
Then the invasion itself is... boring. There's these automated gun platforms in a system they need to take to reach Cardassia, and in the end they resolve it by hacking one of them with the deflector. How does it hack stuff? Why even bring a fleet just have the deflector invade the planet. The deflector solving everything is so damned true. Forget the prophets. If the federation would have gods it'd be their deflectors. It's a very boring resolution, the characters don't do anything clever the writers just hand them an asspull.
The stuff with Dukat is okay. The writers pull some stuff out of their ass but it's mostly based on stuff we've already seen so whatever, it works.
About the only thing I liked was the increasing death flags for Jadzia. While I haven't watched these episodes before I already knew she was going to die at some point and it became pretty obvious in this episode. I liked Worf doing the Klingon death howl for her. That's a nice callback to one of the early TNG episodes where it was established Klingons screams like maniacs when one of them dies. The universe really does fuck over Worf a bunch when it comes to family.
Oh yeah there was also some Odo/Kira stuff but I skipped over that. Poor Odo, the writers should just have given him some stern detective lady that he could have some stern detective chemistry with. The Kira romance really don't come off natural but none of his romances have been that great. Somehow Quark getting with a Klingon seems more plausible than most of Odo's romances.
The episode is not horrible just bland. I think I'll start on season 7 next weekend.
But then it's not really about the Cardassia prime invasion, it's more about getting to Cardassia prime. Instantly less cool.
Then you get the prophets asking Benjamin Sisko to remain behind on the station while their amassed fleet goes off to the invasion.
So, the Bajor wormhole is the most strategic critical position in the entire war. The prophets, aka the wormhole aliens, aka the people keeping the dominion out of the entire quadrant, has just contacted the commander of the station guarding that wormhole: Benjamin Sisko to tell him 'no don't go with the invasion fleet, stay here, it's dangerous'. And the reaction of Star Fleet is 'pshaw, whatever, those aliens ain't important, you better either resign or bloody well lead the invasion effort.
It's just dumb.
Then the invasion itself is... boring. There's these automated gun platforms in a system they need to take to reach Cardassia, and in the end they resolve it by hacking one of them with the deflector. How does it hack stuff? Why even bring a fleet just have the deflector invade the planet. The deflector solving everything is so damned true. Forget the prophets. If the federation would have gods it'd be their deflectors. It's a very boring resolution, the characters don't do anything clever the writers just hand them an asspull.
The stuff with Dukat is okay. The writers pull some stuff out of their ass but it's mostly based on stuff we've already seen so whatever, it works.
About the only thing I liked was the increasing death flags for Jadzia. While I haven't watched these episodes before I already knew she was going to die at some point and it became pretty obvious in this episode. I liked Worf doing the Klingon death howl for her. That's a nice callback to one of the early TNG episodes where it was established Klingons screams like maniacs when one of them dies. The universe really does fuck over Worf a bunch when it comes to family.
Oh yeah there was also some Odo/Kira stuff but I skipped over that. Poor Odo, the writers should just have given him some stern detective lady that he could have some stern detective chemistry with. The Kira romance really don't come off natural but none of his romances have been that great. Somehow Quark getting with a Klingon seems more plausible than most of Odo's romances.
The episode is not horrible just bland. I think I'll start on season 7 next weekend.
Going back to 40k all the primarchs are just clones of Star Trek actors.