Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Picklepower said:
I'm gonna watch Star Trek V wish me luck guys.
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V had important rock climbing and god punching that were TOS staples and had yet to be realized on the big screen.
If it had a better effects budget and that rock monster fight I think it would have been much better remembered.
 
Saw Beyond last night. It was great. Teared up at the mentioning of Nimoy and the instances of Chekov on screen. It was amazing, definitely hearkening back to the whole what Star Trek is supposed to be.

Also my love of McCoy is never ending. I love him.
 
I forgot to mention that V also has a good Kirk Preaches About Humanity's Great Flaws bit.

Hooray 50!
 
So I just decided to put on Star Trek yesterday while dicking around with some games and homework.
Holy shit I can't believe that I never was really interested in this show at all. I watched a few episodes before, but for some reason never got into it. What I've watched so far has either ranged from really great to okay though. The episode where Spock has to go back to Vulcan to deal with his weird mating issue had some damn fun storytelling mixed in with incredibly enjoyable bad fighting. I didn't realize that Star Trek also kind of dabbles into more fantastical ideas like during the episode where Kirk and company actually meet the Greek god Apollo. I expected the episode to be complete shit because of the sudden introduction of this ancient mythology, but it was surprisingly great.
This show is just way too fun, really disappointed in myself for not seriously watching this years earlier.
 
GeorgeDaMoose said:
So I just decided to put on Star Trek yesterday while dicking around with some games and homework.
Holy shit I can't believe that I never was really interested in this show at all. I watched a few episodes before, but for some reason never got into it. What I've watched so far has either ranged from really great to okay though. The episode where Spock has to go back to Vulcan to deal with his weird mating issue had some damn fun storytelling mixed in with incredibly enjoyable bad fighting. I didn't realize that Star Trek also kind of dabbles into more fantastical ideas like during the episode where Kirk and company actually meet the Greek god Apollo. I expected the episode to be complete shit because of the sudden introduction of this ancient mythology, but it was surprisingly great.
This show is just way too fun, really disappointed in myself for not seriously watching this years earlier.
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Started to watch TOS on Netflix and i'm really liking it so far, I love the atmosphere and the world of the show. I like Kirk and the crew and i was wondering what original series movies i should watch after TOS? Should i watch the animated series after i finished the original series?
 
IHeardThatCurtis said:
Started to watch TOS on Netflix and i'm really liking it so far, I love the atmosphere and the world of the show. I like Kirk and the crew and i was wondering what original series movies i should watch after TOS? Should i watch the animated series after i finished the original series?
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TAS is a little rough around the edges, but considerably better than it could have been.
As for the TOS movies just go through them in order. Even the bad ones have some redeeming features.
 
XYZpdq said:
TAS is a little rough around the edges, but considerably better than it could have been.
As for the TOS movies just go through them in order. Even the bad ones have some redeeming features.
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And what about the animated series skip those one too? I'm thinking of going though all the series up to Enterprise.
 
ToroidalBoat said:
Is Trelane related to the Q at all?
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Mostly no.
In show canon it's never addressed.

There is a book by a guy who wrote a well-regarded Riker/Troi book that has Trelane and Q interact at length. iirc Q is his... godfather? I forget.
 
So I've started watching a few episodes of The Next Generation and it's kind of...weird.
Quality of the original Star Trek episodes ranged from very good to okay like I said earlier, but TNG has a range of very good to absolutely terrible from what I've seen.
Probably the best episode I've watched involved Data (who I really, really want to love as a character, but I haven't seen enough of him yet) being in danger from some scientist schmuck that wants to disassemble him. Most of the episode is pretty much going over his sentience and his rights as an android which is really, really cool. Then there's the episode that came on right after that which involved some random fuckboy ensign falling in love with a shapeshifting alien and it's full of god damn cringe to the point where I don't want to even remember it.
The CG also somehow looks worse to me than the original series which I can't explain for the life of me. Episodes also aren't too memorable and it kind of seems to lack that world building focus mixed in with sci-fi jargon to explain the dumb away. I probably need to watch more to like it, but the 6 episodes I've seen don't leave me very hopeful. I'm also hoping Picard will shine more as a Captain in more episodes because he was only really fantastic in that Data episode I was talking about where he gave a really cool defense of Data's sentience.
 
GeorgeDaMoose said:
So I've started watching a few episodes of The Next Generation and it's kind of...weird.
Quality of the original Star Trek episodes ranged from very good to okay like I said earlier, but TNG has a range of very good to absolutely terrible from what I've seen.
Probably the best episode I've watched involved Data (who I really, really want to love as a character, but I haven't seen enough of him yet) being in danger from some scientist schmuck that wants to disassemble him. Most of the episode is pretty much going over his sentience and his rights as an android which is really, really cool. Then there's the episode that came on right after that which involved some random fuckboy ensign falling in love with a shapeshifting alien and it's full of god damn cringe to the point where I don't want to even remember it.
The CG also somehow looks worse to me than the original series which I can't explain for the life of me. Episodes also aren't too memorable and it kind of seems to lack that world building focus mixed in with sci-fi jargon to explain the dumb away. I probably need to watch more to like it, but the 6 episodes I've seen don't leave me very hopeful. I'm also hoping Picard will shine more as a Captain in more episodes because he was only really fantastic in that Data episode I was talking about where he gave a really cool defense of Data's sentience.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw
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If I recall correctly, TNG gets good at season 2 or 3, though I still wouldn't skip over season 1. There's some stuff going on which gets important later on, so you can watch the shit episodes, knowing that it gets better.
 
GeorgeDaMoose said:
The CG also somehow looks worse to me than the original series which I can't explain for the life of me.
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If you are just starting to watch TOS recently, the special effects probably don't look horrifically bad because every episode was digitally remastered and in some places had totally new CGI effects and sequences added in when TOS started being syndicated again for reruns in the early/mid 2000s. Most of it is minor stuff like replacing the old rotoscoped phaser beams and transporter shimmer with modern digital effects or using animated CG models of spaceships and planets in space scenes instead of the original footage of miniatures dangling in front of matte paintings.
 
millais said:
If you are just starting to watch TOS recently, the special effects probably don't look horrifically bad because every episode was digitally remastered and in some places had totally new CGI effects and sequences added in when TOS started being syndicated again for reruns in the early/mid 2000s. Most of it is minor stuff like replacing the old rotoscoped phaser beams and transporter shimmer with modern digital effects or using animated CG models of spaceships and planets in space scenes instead of the original footage of miniatures dangling in front of matte paintings.
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True but TNG was also remastered.
 
Except with TNG they had the original model footage available, so they just cleaned up and pieced together the actual shots from the show's run, and only used CGI for the bits where either the footage was missing, or the effects had originally been done digitally. With TOS they didn't have the footage available - not that it would have mattered if they did, as it would have looked like total shit due to how they pieced FX shots together back in the 60s - so they had to redo everything from scratch.
 
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