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Considering he actually had a character arc unlike most other Trek characters, yeah.

DS9's serialization was not a bad thing.
Him and I feel Worf, had the best arcs out of that era of Trek. All the Worf centric episodes really opened Klingon society up and I still wish they would have done a series from the perspective of the Empire.
 
Him and I feel Worf, had the best arcs out of that era of Trek. All the Worf centric episodes really opened Klingon society up and I still wish they would have done a series from the perspective of the Empire.
They did a good job. It is pretty cool how they fleshed out so many races (humans, bajorans, cardassians, klingons [over time] and ferengi [as eternal side characters]) over the years. But as you say, the Klingons should probably get more description... in the late 80s or 90s. Not today. No God please no.

OH YEAH Vulcans. LOL
 
Honestly kudos to everyone giving props to Nog, he's one of the best characters in Star Trek. His character arc from juvenile delinquent only avoiding jail time because he enrolled in school and starwalt into traditional Ferengi culture, to a young man that literally gave a part of himself to protect a system he thought just is simply heartwarming. In many ways, he is the ultimate validation of Starfleet that even in all the horrors that entailed the destructiveness of the Dominion War, a simple man from a race known for their greed and cowardice was brave and selfless in his service.
 
Still wanna fuck Adra for 10,000 years though.
She looks like she's about to break into song.
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Last day of the free trial, so I watched the first episode of season 4, Discovery. And it continues everything I hate.

  • President lady (who is one quarter Bajoran, one quarter Cardassian, and one half human) accurately dresses down Michael Burnam, but of course, she's made to be a villain.
  • Burnham gets praised for all the galaxy-saving she personally has done.
  • I'm getting more and more irritated with the Dadaist space stations and ships. Like, what's the point of all the floaty weird angles and curves?
  • Show started with what I thought was a hearkening back to mission-of-the-week, but drops all that for "THE ANOMALY", another galaxy destroying thing.
  • Action, action, action.

It's truly sad Ricker and Morn-y Lower Decks, and a Nickelodeon show from the episodes I saw is better. (Though not by much).
 
President lady (who is one quarter Bajoran, one quarter Cardassian, and one half human)
She made a comment about how regulating the Bank of Bolias would be pointless because it wouldn't solve racism.👏

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accurately dresses down Michael Burnam, but of course, she's made to be a villain.
That's how you know the writer is trapped in a story they don't want to be in.

Then again, the Fed President is always portrayed as a buffoon. Even Ira lamented that they can't get it right.

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I've never seen Farscape, but I'm never forgiving Ben Browder and Claudia Black for the last two seasons of SG-1. Fuck that noise.

Hey hey hey

Don't blame the actors for the shit the producers pull.

Both Browder and Black did the best they could with a weird situation.

And go watch Farscape. I can promise you won't regret it. Just remember its not Star Trek. Crichton is not a Star Fleet officer and operates on a completely different moral system. He is a massively flawed person who goes somewhat insane for a time due to all the shit that's happening to him. I love that Crichton is pretty much what would happen in RL if the events of Farscape happen to an actual person.

I half-way feel that because a lot of sci-fi nerds were expecting Star Trek or B5 is, which is wasn't trying to be nor ended up like, why Farscape didn't really see success until after it was cancelled and folks caught it in syndication. (sound familiar?)

Also don't forget the movies...they end the story. If you stop watching after the TV series is over you may end up rather confused.
 
I think a Kira Dukat romance would have been somewhat interesting in the classic love/hate passion thingie done sometimes.
I forgot to reply to this, but I actually remember a brief little moment in a AU novel where they were together
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Infinity's_Prism

Its in the story Seeds of Dissent, where Khan ends up winning word war 3 and his gene altered people end up ruling the galaxy. Bashir is a prince in command of a ship that hunts down Kira and Dukat at the start, before finding a botany bay crewed by regular humans who escaped earth with evidence of Khan's hidden atrocity's.

I remember it being a pretty good read. Along with a story where the earth never joined the federation. I dont remember a dam thing about the voyager story. Never read the other two novels, but they have some pretty interesting ideas.
 
Farscape didn't really see success until after it was cancelled and folks caught it in syndication. (sound familiar?)
S1 had Crais as a villain. Arbitrarily evil, unreasonably psychotic.

S4 exchanges Scorpy for Poison Ivy. I never liked any of S4 additions.

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There were just too many dead ends. (Plenty of great moments, too.)
 
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S1 had Crais as a villain. Arbitrarily evil, unreasonably psychotic. S4 exchanges Scorpius for Poison Ivy. I never liked any of S4 additions.
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There were just too many dead ends. (Plenty of great moments, too.)
The only good part of S4 is the hot little redhead number that joined the crew at first and even she was pushing that hot-crazy/annoying line.
 
Then again, the Fed President is always portrayed as a buffoon. Even Ira lamented that they couldn't get it right.
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Jaresh-Inyo was not a popular character with the producers and some viewers. It was generally felt that he came across as far too soft to be the leader of the Federation, that there was no chance someone like him would ever have gotten into that position. Interestingly, of this problem Ira Steven Behr simply says, "the casting decision didn't particularly work", implying that the producers were unhappy with Herschel Sparber's performance. The writers saw Jaresh-Inyo as being like Jimmy Carter. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion (p. ?))

IMO, they might have accidentally picked the perfect representative for the Federation at that time. Who would be the kind of people that would vote for Jaresh-Inyo? People like Joseph Sisko. On the civilian side of things, they never had the humbling experience with Q; the Borg attack would have been seen more like a natural disaster than a lesson in humility, colonization problems in the DMZ were all the way over in the borders. Sisko had already described Earth as paradise and thus, insulated from real trouble. For Jaresh-Inyo and the Federation Council, the actual hard work of negotiating treaties was left to Starfleet, they just gave weird, absurd conditions to those treaties. Which is why the TNG version of the crazy admiral was really just an officer that understood realpolitick and military affairs and the civilians simply don't.
 
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The real mystery of Tilly's obesity is that there is no reason for her to be this fat because any reason for it has been getting rid of during her time.
 
The real mystery of Tilly's obesity is that there is no reason for her to be this fat because any reason for it has been getting rid of during her time.
I'd expect replicators could let you eat whatever you wanted and it would make it taste correct but have the nutrition and calories you actually needed. Unless she's somehow overriding the programming, and even then you would think someone would mention the elephant in the room.
 
Like, lose some weight, girl. Even a sonic shower can't clean you at that size.

Remember how hard the plot worked to explain why Hurley was still fat? That storyline where he was hoarding food?

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The only good part of S4 is the hot little redhead number that joined the crew at first and even she was pushing that hot-crazy/annoying line.
I like Sikozu way better than Jool. But they were all kind of poor substitutes for Zhaan. She was a dark priest with a complicated past and her species was cool.

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I'd expect replicators could let you eat whatever you wanted and it would make it taste correct but have the nutrition and calories you actually needed. Unless she's somehow overriding the programming, and even then you would think someone would mention the elephant in the room.
Replicators were not yet a thing during Tilly's time. They had food synthesizers, which limited her access to food even more.
 
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