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Judge Holden said:
Oh great. Just when I thought the most pathetic and tedious edgelord comic in human history was finally gone for good, some dumbass decided to bring back Crossed after it was dead for like 3 years.

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*sigh* dunno why I even care at this point beyond lingering resentment for wasting what could have been a solid concept (i.e. something that isnt a by the books zombie setting, with the infected being just pure evil instead of animalistic and brainless) for Garth Ennis (and later wannabe garth ennis) masturbation and "LOL LOOK HOW EDGY WE ARE GUIZ! OUR ZOMBIES SAY CUNT AND RAPE DOGS AND STUFF LOL!" shit that stopped being entertaining and interesting at some point in the late 80s.

I guess I kinda hoped that as the "professional" comic medium steadily shits itself to death, that it could atleast have enough dignity to not resurrect this shit as the industry slowly expires

(and yes I am aware that my whole schtick is dumb edgelordy crap, but frankly I think if you are going to go in the direction of transgressive edgelord shit then atleast have it be explicitly a jokey shits and giggles affair, instead of dressing it up as some serious and spooky horror crap)
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I agree, let the series die. Then again, I find the zombie type genre a one trick pony with what you can do. Yes, there are stories that stray from the norm or delightfully don't take themselves serious (Plants vs Zombies).
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
I agree, let the series die. Then again, I find the zombie type genre a one trick pony with what you can do. Yes, there are stories that stray from the norm or delightfully don't take themselves serious (Plants vs Zombies).
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Its worse than that. Ennis's whole schtick about the series from the getgo was "LOL SILLY ZOMBIE FANS! WITNESS MY AWESUM AND SCARY DECONSTRUCTION OF THE GENRE!" which turned out to be.....slavishly sticking to every single zombie cliche imaginable and retreading shit done to death since the literal 60s but now having the zombies be rapists who act like characters from the Young Ones.

And that was technically the "peak" of the series. Since then it has managed to become orders of magnitude more boring and "REEEE SO SHOCKING SO GROOSUM!!!" and in the latter issues "REEEE MUH REAL WORLD AGENDA!!!" with a whole story arc being about icky mushogynurd dudebro comic fans keeping a smexy and speshul female comic writer as a sex slave and forcing her to make comics for them (and no, this is not even played slightly as a parody) being a particularly cringeworthy example.

Its not a good sign when there are literally schlocky 80s badly dubbed italian fulci ripoff zombie movies which pull off the whole "completely intelligent and gun wielding/car driving zombies" plotline in a way that is objectively more enjoyable and less cringy than the best Crossed had to offer
 
They really fucked up Spider-Gwen.

I liked Vol.1 a lot - it was a fun superhero comic set in its own universe with unusual art. It had stuff like Gwen putting up juvenile graffiti to taunt the Vulture into fighting her, losing her first fight to him and then hallucinating Spider-Ham for an entire day. Volume one only lasted five issues before they decided to relaunch it.

The relaunched volume two should have essentially been titled "Spider-Gwen: No Fun Allowed". It quickly became misery porn that was more interested in making Gwen's life shittier with each arc and having her wallow in self pity and depression than do anything you'd expect from a Spider-Man related comic. It became The Last Jedi of comics that would rather !SUBVERT YOUR EXPECTATIONS! than do anything fun.

To top it all off because retards on Tumblr liked drawing art of Miles Morale and Gwen together they forced (and I do mean forced - there was no build up to it or barely any mention of it afterward in Spider-Gwen's book, as if the writer had no idea it was going to happen and had to jam it between his already planned out arcs) them together in an arc whose sole purpose was to ship them. There's an obvious age gap between them and they had barely spoken two lines to each other beforehand but, hey, as we all know if you can pander to Tumblr you should always definitely do it.

Due to increasingly shitty sales they've finally cancelled the book and it looks like they'll try to roll her into the 616 universe as 'Ghost Spider' and probably reduce her to being little more than Mile Morales' girlfriend.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Sad thing is they're bringing back Cena Grace's Iceman and Unstopable Wasp despite no one really liking the comics other than SJW who really haven't read it.
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I'm quietly hoping they're re-releasing these series because of Pride Month, and because there is an Ant-man movie coming out in short order. As it is, it seems like there isn't a single new series being released by Marvel that gets past the one-year mark anymore unless it has the X-Men or Spider-man attached so I'm not expecting these to be much more than virtue signaling pablum, much like... well, 80% of everything nowadays.
 
It's gay as hell that the Dark Horse Witcher comics have no English translations. It's like they don't even want my shekels.
 
Alpha Loves You said:
I think it's a stretch to say the character even had any potential to begin with. A lesbian alien with 2 mums that's also Mexican and called America who's power is "punches things kinda hard i guess" and is a complete and utter bitch to everyone in her life while being worshipped by everyone who knows she exists.
Gabby Rivera may have fucked the character beyond belief, but she was never going to be good, plotholes or no plotholes.
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She's wasn't always a lesbian with two lesbians moms from the lesbian dimension, that was a retcon pulled by a predecessor of Gabby

ShittyRecolor said:
Whatever you guys do, don't read Deadpool #01 written by Skottie Young. I like Young's art style fine, but if this aforementioned comic is of any indication, the guy can't write to save his life. Haven't read anything by him before, like I hate Fairyland, but if it's also as humorless and full of wooden dialogue as his first foray to chronicling the adventures of the Regenerative Degenerate, then I really don't intend on catching up. Between this, Old Man Logan vs Deadpool and the Merc With a Mouth's cameos in All-New Wolverine, I'm starting to give up hope in ever reading a quality new Deadpool comic again.
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Thanks for reminding I Hate Fairyland is a thing, i storytimed it on 8chan once.
I had repressed the memory of it
 
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Ruin said:
It's gay as hell that the Dark Horse Witcher comics have no English translations. It's like they don't even want my shekels.
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Which comics are you talking about? All the Dark Horse ones I know of were written in English by American comic writer Paul Tobin. The only Polish comics that come to mind are the ones that were published in the early '90s.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
Which comics are you talking about? All the Dark Horse ones I know of were written in English by American comic writer Paul Tobin. The only Polish comics that come to mind are the ones that were published in the early '90s.
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Speaking of the Witcher, i heard that most of the books were Twilight tier in writing, i wonder if that was true or not
 
I am greatly enjoying Warren Ellis' Wild Storm reboot. I was worried in the early issues because of the race and sexuality swaps, thinking Ellis' brain might have broken, and because the art and colours were really bland and washed out. But for some time now it's been a really good reboot with cool conspiracy shit, some nice reimaginings (hoping for Mister Majestic at some point), and great art (a lot of the panels still involve people talking in the most boring rooms in the world, but when the sci-fi shit happens it's fantastic, and the action gives a good sense of motion).

Judge Holden said:
Oh great. Just when I thought the most pathetic and tedious edgelord comic in human history was finally gone for good, some dumbass decided to bring back Crossed after it was dead for like 3 years.

RCO001.jpg


*sigh* dunno why I even care at this point beyond lingering resentment for wasting what could have been a solid concept (i.e. something that isnt a by the books zombie setting, with the infected being just pure evil instead of animalistic and brainless) for Garth Ennis (and later wannabe garth ennis) masturbation and "LOL LOOK HOW EDGY WE ARE GUIZ! OUR ZOMBIES SAY CUNT AND RAPE DOGS AND STUFF LOL!" shit that stopped being entertaining and interesting at some point in the late 80s.

I guess I kinda hoped that as the "professional" comic medium steadily shits itself to death, that it could atleast have enough dignity to not resurrect this shit as the industry slowly expires

(and yes I am aware that my whole schtick is dumb edgelordy crap, but frankly I think if you are going to go in the direction of transgressive edgelord shit then atleast have it be explicitly a jokey shits and giggles affair, instead of dressing it up as some serious and spooky horror crap)
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Warren Ellis' Black Gas did everything Crossed under Ennis was able to do in a far more succinct manner.
 
New Super-Man is over, which I have mixed feelings about. It wasn't a perfect run, but I was thoroughly entertained the whole way through. At least it ended on a positive note.

@Ruin you better not be referring to Charles Burns' Black Hole, because that book was trash. Eliza was the only remotely likable character and she barely had two defining characteristics.
 
I read mostly manga not western comics so I didn't realize how badly pozzed they were until I went to a book store to pick something up and God damn people aren't exaggerating. I'd say probably 85% of the comics on display had ugly fat black and Hispanic with buzz cuts or Afros on the covers.
 
I stopped following comics but I used to read batman in the 90s. Now I see videos on YouTube popping up about this Whole batman marrying catwoman clusterfuck and I had no idea something this dumb could even be imagined.
Thank god I stopped reading comics.
 
Well I guess I doesnt matter much now given how everything is just crashing down in the entire franchise but the original piece of cancer that turned me and god knows how many others off mild interest in Marvel Comics was finally undone after over 10 fucking years

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As someone who remembered seeing the comics industry as a casual fan in the pre SJW, pre linkara, pre fucking TV tropes era, its funny thinking back as to all the things people were bitching about at the time as being the "cancer of comics" that either became things that wound up being sorely missed (i.e. anything with more edge than a mister rogers episode), things that would cause literal REEEiots today (i.e. dumb "LOL RE-TARD LOL FAGGOT!" jokes) and things which only in the sunset of the SJW age are becoming apparent as the true cancer that kills franchises (i.e. the open and naked contempt for fans who gave two shits about story and character writing instead of whatever dumb gimmick was being shilled by the editorial team, as exemplified by the whole One More Day debacle)
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
Did you hear about how Ms Marvel's writer, G. Willow Wilson, is going to do Wonder Woman? If she decides to have Wondy praise Mohammad as a feminist or turns it into some tween sitcom style plot, I'll gag.
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You know, that's exactly how I have felt about Ms. Marvel for a quite a while. Kamala Khan as an archetype was something revolutionary (not the muslim aspect, but being a relatable teenager aiming for a new demographic. Decades of continuity made Spider-Man loss its familiarity (specially the 90s) and the more relatable characters in Marvel were usually so under the carpet they went barely noticed. Enters G. W. Wilson and makes a character that kills to birds with one stone: reconnect with younger readers and please the diversity crowd.

What went wrong?

As all concepts it reaches a point it becomes stale. Kamala as she is good is extremely simple and a character that will lose its appeal as soon as time passes. Her quirky personality and attitude were novelties at the time and her background make it even better. Kamala wasn't the first muslim superhero but she hit a place that make her an icon: being american. I won't lie, the first volume is pure gold and is a loyal portrayal of how is growing up as a racial/religious minority without being too aggressive. But then, Marvel saw that Ms. Marvel was selling well (not that much, enough to keep relevancy) and once more and more hacks entered the company they saw Kamala as the only inhouse prototype that could work from the get go. As Ms. Marvel lost its novelty, the rest of titles looked worse in comparison. Kamala is amazing in small doses but it was clear that from the very top of the company she wasn't allowed to grow, change was out of the formula. This make her more formulaic, and when she started to plump the rhetoric entered the room. Something that went almost untouched since the very beginning became the norm and Kamala changed Islam for Tumblr as her religion.
Kamala is trapped, she will not change at least is permitted and by then only a genius could save the concept. And the worst is that Wilson allowed everything, she didn't fight for her artistic integrity, maybe because she does have any.
For now she can brag about making to good volumes of a character which mayor punch has become a norm, the standard. Am I worried for Wonder Woman? Not really, Wilson as a handful of SJWs is talented, she only needs a decent editor and for now DC is the direction to go.
For what comes to Kamala, she has easily become the Scrappy Doo of comic books. Marvel should give her a break and mature her a bit.
 
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You know, that's exactly how I have felt about Ms. Marvel for a quite a while. Kamala Khan as an archetype was something revolutionary (not the muslim aspect, but being a relatable teenager aiming for a new demographic. Decades of continuity made Spider-Man loss its familiarity (specially the 90s) and the more relatable characters in Marvel were usually so under the carpet they went barely noticed. Enters G. W. Wilson and makes a character that kills to birds with one stone: reconnect with younger readers and please the diversity crowd.

What went wrong?

As all concepts it reaches a point it becomes stale. Kamala as she is good is extremely simple and a character that will lose its appeal as soon as time passes. Her quirky personality and attitude were novelties at the time and her background make it even better. Kamala wasn't the first muslim superhero but she hit a place that make her an icon: being american. I won't lie, the first volume is pure gold and is a loyal portrayal of how is growing up as a racial/religious minority without being too aggressive. But then, Marvel saw that Ms. Marvel was selling well (not that much, enough to keep relevancy) and once more and more hacks entered the company they saw Kamala as the only inhouse prototype that could work from the get go. As Ms. Marvel lost its novelty, the rest of titles looked worse in comparison. Kamala is amazing in small doses but it was clear that from the very top of the company she wasn't allowed to grow, change was out of the formula. This make her more formulaic, and when she started to plump the rhetoric entered the room. Something that went almost untouched since the very beginning became the norm and Kamala changed Islam for Tumblr as her religion.
Kamala is trapped, she will not change at least is permitted and by then only a genius could save the concept. And the worst is that Wilson allowed everything, she didn't fight for her artistic integrity, maybe because she does have any.
For now she can brag about making to good volumes of a character which mayor punch has become a norm, the standard. Am I worried for Wonder Woman? Not really, Wilson as a handful of SJWs is talented, she only needs a decent editor and for now DC is the direction to go.
For what comes to Kamala, she has easily become the Scrappy Doo of comic books. Marvel should give her a break and mature her a bit.
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The most recent(ish) arc with Kamala feels like a return to form. I don't know if they'll actually end up doing anything to make her grow as a character, but it at least feels like a fun comic to read again. And actually features her as the title character doing things again. I dropped all the other books which featured her though, so maybe that's why I'm enjoying it. I do think there was a time where every writer was trying to jam her into their stories, usually having no idea of how to write her. I don't know why, but it felt to me like a lot of writers defaulted her to "stick in the mud/bitchy leader type" despite the fact she got popular because her comic was pretty light hearted, with Kamala having some serious moments, but mostly being a fun/quirky character. It was weird, because usually Marvel writers take those characters and turn them into Mary Sue's. Maybe it happened more in the titles I dropped, but the only time I can really remember that happening was an X-23 future story where she was randomly president.

I wouldn't worry too much about Wonder Woman, she's beyond bland at this point. At worst, nothing changes, or at best she gets some personality injected into her.
 
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