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I’m probably the only person on the planet who hates Spider-Man #50 (and to the extent, Raimi’s Spider-Man 2).
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The entire notion that Peter would ever quit being Spider-Man is moronic. Much less for the reasons he even did (“It’s hard! BAWWWWW!”). At least when he quit in the Spider-Man MTV cartoon series, it was because he accidentally threw an innocent person off of a building and the entire city hated him.
Here? His entire reasoning is because he spends more time being Spidey, and the Daily Bugle hates him. Both reasons can be completely shat on with this one scene from Spectacular Spider-Man.
Notice how, despite his friends being pissed at him and losing his job, he still doesn’t quit? That’s because he actually learned something from Uncle Ben’s death: Doing nothing, can be worse than doing something wrong.
For fucks sake, even in the Mayday Parker comics when he’s shot in the leg and can’t be Spider-Man anymore, he goes and becomes a police scientist. Even if Peter cannot be Spider-Man, he will still find a way to help people.
For fucks sake even the Amazing movies got this right. If Spidey’s going to quit, he’d better have a decent reason rather than it being “difficult.”
 
Is Marvel even trying any more?

KELLY THOMPSON ANNOUNCES THE NEW WEST COAST AVENGERS
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KELLY THOMPSON ANNOUNCES THE NEW WEST COAST AVENGERS
Published May 17, 2018 By Jamie Frevele
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Hawkeye is getting the band back together -- but who's on the team this time?

Kelly Thompson—writer of HAWKEYE, ROGUE & GAMBIT, CAPTAIN PHASMA, and more—is getting ready to reassemble a Marvel team from decades past! This week, we’re excited to announce WEST COAST AVENGERS, written by Thompson with art by Stefano Caselli! The ’80s book is back for an ongoing series run with another super group of Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, and this time it has not one but two Hawkeyes!

The original West Coast Avengers was started by Clint Barton’s Hawkeye. This time around, Clint is joined by the current Hawkeye Kate Bishop and a few of their super powered friends! We talked with Kelly Thompson about what we can expect from the new WEST COAST AVENGERS and she had a lot to say about this wacky, disparate group finding a common thread:

“They all need and want something from being on that team together. Kate needs to help save LA, and she needs help to do that because villains have taken notice that there are no Super Heroes out there. I think there’s part of her that misses [being on a team] too. She’s been doing her own thing, on her own, and that’s cool. But she was the one, who, with no powers, was like ‘I’m leading the Young Avengers, I’m the boss.’”

As far as the original Hawkeye goes, Thompson says Clint is “trying to help Kate” but “doesn’t want to admit how much it’s fun for him to mentor.”

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Other characters joining the West Coast fun are Gwenpool, whom Thompson describes as “a really weird X-factor” who will be going through some “really interesting” relationship developments; Quentin Quire, who is “always trouble,” but “clearly wants a family”; and Kate’s boyfriend Johnny, who is in “way over his head,” a situation that Thompson is very eager to explore.

But with every super group is a wild card, and according to Thompson, that wild card is America Chavez:

“I think America is the biggest question mark, and I think that’s something we’re excited to explore: Why does she come back to LA? Why does she come back to be with Kate? Does she miss [the group dynamic] too? Because America, she likes to play things a little close to the vest.”

Like the original West Coast Avengers, the team will be living together—but it’s not quite the same Tony Stark-funded flat that we saw in the ‘80s. Instead, to get funding, the team will be part of a reality show while living together under the same roof.

Will things stop being polite and start getting real? The new, ongoing series starts when WEST COAST AVENGERS #1 hits stores on Wednesday, August 22 so you can find out then! Make sure to visit your local comic book store and pre-order today!

Check out the full description of the first issue:

HAWKEYE (KATE BISHOP). HAWKEYE (CLINT BARTON). A guy named FUSE. Never have they ever been called “the big three” of…anything. And now here they are, reunited for, okay, well, it’s only the second time ever. Thank god they also brought AMERICA CHAVEZ, GWENPOOL and KID OMEGA. Wait. What? That’s right, it’s the new West Coast Avengers, son. And you better hope they can figure out how to save the world because BIG things are headed for the West Coast.

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TheClorax said:
I’m probably the only person on the planet who hates Spider-Man #50 (and to the extent, Raimi’s Spider-Man 2).
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The entire notion that Peter would ever quit being Spider-Man is moronic. Much less for the reasons he even did (“It’s hard! BAWWWWW!”). At least when he quit in the Spider-Man MTV cartoon series, it was because he accidentally threw an innocent person off of a building and the entire city hated him.
Here? His entire reasoning is because he spends more time being Spidey, and the Daily Bugle hates him. Both reasons can be completely shat on with this one scene from Spectacular Spider-Man. https://youtube.com/watch?v=uqOavOVHULA Notice how, despite his friends being pissed at him and losing his job, he still doesn’t quit? That’s because he actually learned something from Uncle Ben’s death: Doing nothing, can be worse than doing something wrong.
For fucks sake, even in the Mayday Parker comics when he’s shot in the leg and can’t be Spider-Man anymore, he goes and becomes a police scientist. Even if Peter cannot be Spider-Man, he will still find a way to help people.
For fucks sake even the Amazing movies got this right. If Spidey’s going to quit, he’d better have a decent reason rather than it being “difficult.”
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I'm going to agree. Kinda. I hate emo Spider-Man stories in general, as their all kind of redundant. Any time a hero does the whole "Imma stop being *insert hero name* I just kinda roll my eyes.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Is Marvel even trying any more?

KELLY THOMPSON ANNOUNCES THE NEW WEST COAST AVENGERS
Archiving looks like crap. But there it is.





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I actually blazed through the original WCA collection a few months ago... and although most of it was fairly forgettable in the grand aspect of Marvel stories (with the exception of the VisionQuest storyline), it was pretty solid throughout. If anything, it was a great encapsulation of how Marvel changed from the early-mid 80s into the early 90s and had a bunch of fun little yarns Marvel doesn't ever talk about (Tigra fucking every man on WCA in the first few issues, Hank Pym almost eating a gun, Mockingbird being given a roofy by the original Ghost Rider, the whole Master Pandemonium baby-killing thing...).

And then I thought to myself, "Gosh Blank, how soon do you think it'll be before Marvel tarnishes this by making a new WCA title?"

Well, here we go. This was pretty much exactly what I expected it to be. I just hope they might have some hail-backs to the previous franchise, have Hawkeye quip wise how they left the last WCA Mansion as a goddamn crater.

Also, I'm still deciding which costume I hate more- Kate Bishop's jogging suit or Hawkeye's MCU-derivate costume. Man, bring back the cowl, Marvel. I fucking loved that costume.
 
Alpha Loves You said:
Garth ennis' s punisher run is pretty much accepted as the best punisher run that's ever been printed.
It shows so much when he was kicked from the comic and it immediately went down hill, the 6th volume is pretty unbearable.
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I think that the storyline "girls in white dresses" was fine. Not great but fine. There was one moment that I really liked in it, and that was when Frank thought he had shot and killed a kid. He was in disarray and were seconds on pulling the trigger on himself as to punish himself. The other storylines were meh at best (even if the one where he fights cannibals rednecks were pretty fun to read).
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Is Marvel even trying any more?

KELLY THOMPSON ANNOUNCES THE NEW WEST COAST AVENGERS
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This is going to fucking suck, mark my words
Foltest said:
I think that the storyline "girls in white dresses" was fine. Not great but fine. There was one moment that I really liked in it, and that was when Frank thought he had shot and killed a kid. He was in disarray and were seconds on pulling the trigger on himself as to punish himself. The other storylines were meh at best (even if the one where he fights cannibals rednecks were pretty fun to read).
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I agree to be honest, Volume 5 was great in some issues. It's just we had to compare Barracuda and the man of stone to some guy who shot an old man and "Yorkies estranged son". I would never say it was even half as bad as the shite we get now in marvel but it couldn't compare to the punisher max that had come before it. If it was another punisher story completely, it would probably have been looked upon better. Thankfully the 7th volume was fantastic.
 
When you are talking abou volume 7, do you mean the storyarc Man of Stone? If so, I agree with you. Garth Ennis run on the punisher was my introductions to the punisher. It was also one of the first "superhero" comics I had read. Here in Sweden, Superhero comics ain't a thing, as the clostet I have to read to superhero comics was the Phantom (which is awesome and is the granddaddy of superheroes) and Gareth Ennis run on Frank Castle has created an image of the character of how he should be.
 
Foltest said:
When you are talking abou volume 7, do you mean the storyarc Man of Stone? If so, I agree with you. Garth Ennis run on the punisher was my introductions to the punisher. It was also one of the first "superhero" comics I had read. Here in Sweden, Superhero comics ain't a thing, as the clostet I have to read to superhero comics was the Phantom (which is awesome and is the granddaddy of superheroes) and Gareth Ennis run on Frank Castle has created an image of the character of how he should be.
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Volume 7 is the second run of the punisher max comics, done by someone who's name i forget but did a great job with:
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Comic books are hardly a thing over in Britain too, so finding them is hard and very few of them are available except over the internet. Garth Ennis is one of the few readily available ones (helps that he's irish) and all his books are fantastic, first of his comics i read was "the boys" and it remains one of my favourite forms of media to this day.
 
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TheClorax said:
I’m probably the only person on the planet who hates Spider-Man #50 (and to the extent, Raimi’s Spider-Man 2).
2436809.jpg

The entire notion that Peter would ever quit being Spider-Man is moronic. Much less for the reasons he even did (“It’s hard! BAWWWWW!”). At least when he quit in the Spider-Man MTV cartoon series, it was because he accidentally threw an innocent person off of a building and the entire city hated him.
Here? His entire reasoning is because he spends more time being Spidey, and the Daily Bugle hates him. Both reasons can be completely shat on with this one scene from Spectacular Spider-Man. https://youtube.com/watch?v=uqOavOVHULA Notice how, despite his friends being pissed at him and losing his job, he still doesn’t quit? That’s because he actually learned something from Uncle Ben’s death: Doing nothing, can be worse than doing something wrong.
For fucks sake, even in the Mayday Parker comics when he’s shot in the leg and can’t be Spider-Man anymore, he goes and becomes a police scientist. Even if Peter cannot be Spider-Man, he will still find a way to help people.
For fucks sake even the Amazing movies got this right. If Spidey’s going to quit, he’d better have a decent reason rather than it being “difficult.”
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Pete was a melodramatic little bitch back in the day. Like he understood the whole power and responsibility bit in theory, but he complained and fought it every step of the way. It took both of the Stacys dying to realize oh, spider-man is bigger than just some clown getting his jollies punching mobsters and mad scientists.

I kinda like that in the first 100, ultimately while he's willing to quit on a dime, he's also ready to hop back in with as little or less provocation.
 
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What. the. fuck.

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Whole page, as thumbnail...
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Apparently from Doctor Strange #390. Unless someone is trolling me, and I dearly hope they are.
 
I really wish they would stop rebooting Spider-Man so often. I'm tired of seeing him fumble around as an awkward teen for ever. It's why when Miles Morales made his way into main Marvel continuity I had hoped he would become the new noob spiderman, while peter could grow up and progress. And let Aunt May die already.
 
Yaoi Huntress Earth said:
The fact that it has crappy ol' America Chavez makes me shiver. Thanks Gabby Rivera for pretty much ruining the character.
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I think it's a stretch to say the character even had any potential to begin with. A lesbian alien with 2 mums that's also Mexican and called America who's power is "punches things kinda hard i guess" and is a complete and utter bitch to everyone in her life while being worshipped by everyone who knows she exists.
Gabby Rivera may have fucked the character beyond belief, but she was never going to be good, plotholes or no plotholes.
 
Alpha Loves You said:
I think it's a stretch to say the character even had any potential to begin with. A lesbian alien with 2 mums that's also Mexican and called America who's power is "punches things kinda hard i guess" and is a complete and utter bitch to everyone in her life while being worshipped by everyone who knows she exists.
Gabby Rivera may have fucked the character beyond belief, but she was never going to be good, plotholes or no plotholes.
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I have an acquaintance (who is a white purple haired non-binary Incel) who is one of the few fans of America Chavez. They claim she is like a "Latinx Hermione Granger" and they wish Marvel would do more with her to promote Hispanic work. The funny thing is when I bring up Mexican comics they get super angry over how they're "problematic" and drawn by "dudebros." The funny thing is that for most part the Mexican comics fit the SJW agenda. For those who don't know in the Mexican comics, the Indians are the good guys and the cowboys are the bad guys, the woman are always portrayed as wise noble people while the men are greasy sexist buffoons. I think the reason is that all of the Mexican girls are usually drawn gorgeous which is a big no-no in Le Current Year.
 
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