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[MrJokerRager]

I firmly believe in the conspiracy that both Ultimate Spiderman runs were fucked with at the end, when it was pretty clear they were gonna be remembered more fondly.

Even the 2nd go at USM, leagues better than the current poopoo in the latest spoderman run where MJ is planning to fuck flash and they all got symbiote suits and the mystique of the symbiote is all gone since baby chibi style symbiotes exist and now they planning to force readers to remember Paul fondly.

 

[Registration]

How is it as a read?

Weird. It is mostly a comedy. The art is really rough too, almost feels like rough drawing, but then I looked up and it came out in 1929. Almost 100 years ago, the panelling is basically only squares. It basically runs on cartoon logic.

I still have to finish the first album.

 

[Foltest]

Reading through Punisher Max and man, does it hold up.
I read some other punishers run from the 80s (return to big nothing is damn good, same with circle of blood) but there is just something about MAX that works better for me.

Under all the violence the Punisher MAX is known for, there are still lot of humanity.
The slaver arc is so damn brutal, but there are lot of sadness as well.

 

[Carbiter]

I can see why progs remain heavily invested in the comics no kill rules and other faggotry.

The no-kill rule is fine in my opinion, but only if it is then followed up with trying to then convert the villain or stop him from interacting with the outside world until he gives in. Preferably both. For example, in the Batman movie he (Bruce Wayne) gets convinced to donate to good causes and try and improve the city so that there will be less criminals. Ignoring the lack of specifics in this, it is a good character arc for him and also has purpose and use.

The problem arises when they just go "I won't kill you because it's wrong" and nothing else. They basically let them live for no reason and without expectation for rehabilitation, which is the whole argument against capital punishment/death penalty.

It is a form of civil service to execute the Green Goblin, spider man. He's a mass murderer and a psychopath. It's part of why the story of Norman Osborne is tragic. The only excuse I can see for letting him live is if there is a cure for whatever version of 'goblinism' they've gone with in this comic series.

 

[Registration]

The no-kill rule is fine in my opinion, but only if it is then followed up with trying to then convert the villain or stop him from interacting with the outside world until he gives in. Preferably both. For example, in the Batman movie he (Bruce Wayne) gets convinced to donate to good causes and try and improve the city so that there will be less criminals. Ignoring the lack of specifics in this, it is a good character arc for him and also has purpose and use.

The problem arises when they just go "I won't kill you because it's wrong" and nothing else. They basically let them live for no reason and without expectation for rehabilitation, which is the whole argument against capital punishment/death penalty.

It is a form of civil service to execute the Green Goblin, spider man. He's a mass murderer and a psychopath. It's part of why the story of Norman Osborne is tragic. The only excuse I can see for letting him live is if there is a cure for whatever version of 'goblinism' they've gone with in this comic series.

I am against the no kill rule. The thing is that you don't need to kill the Joker, just main his arms and legs and use your Wayne money to pay some nurse or doctor to feed him and change his diapers.

The second Tintin book is already a great change. The panelling is 3 panels and in color! Most of the paneling in the first were 2 squares x 4 rows and some rare longer panel. The story of the first felt like a comedy movie with no time to stop joking, going from germany to Russia every time.

I still don't know if Tintin can understand his dog or not, the dog speaks like Tintin can understand but the Tintin dialogue to his dog feels like he is just talking to himself.

Also Tintin in the first book could start an entire Die Hard quadrilogy with the Russians trying to kill him and him escaping or surviving.

 

[TheOtherOne]

I read through some of Astro City, and I have to say the 1995/1996 runs were pretty good, but I couldn't get more than 15 issues into the 2013 run before bailing. What happened to the quality? Instead of reading good stories you get some kind of weird plot about some alien who wants to know more about Earth (I read it doesn't even get finished so I stopped caring about it), some insane dude who takes up too many pages and keeps saying "No, don't read that interesting story, some random thing is gonna notice you!" and then the actual stories which are pretty much all misses. I was reading the one about the rover on another planet or whatever and I zoned out for a few pages only to see some gay couple which took me out of the plot and I couldn't bother trying to understand the rest of the story after that.
The last issue I bothered reading was with the gay guy (another gay dude, seriously?) who got mega bullied or whatever and became some sort of super hater villain who thought he was fighting his boyfriend, which translates in my head to "I don't want to be gay so I'm going to kill who I think is the gay person I'm in love with" which sounds really stupid.

Spoiler: Gay villain issue rant

So this one dude trying to help him (even in his secret identity) saw the villain was getting bullied (I guess they just happened to go to the same school) and went to cut him out of some ropes, and of course the gay dude was like "No you're one of the bullies too wahhhh." They do some sort of plot where they each help the other for a day, so the villain dude is coordinating what disasters/crimes to stop for the hero, the hero throws a birthday party for the villain where he's treated like a normal dude for once (I thought that was touching), the villain tries to kill the hero again the next day at midnight and of course he gets out and is like "well happy birthday anyways man" and it wasn't that bad.
Then later the hero's dead and the villain is all choked up (for some dumb reason he thought his boyfriend was the hero and not the dude who wanted to help him when he was bullied, so basically he wanted to kill his boyfriend all along?) and decides to just become transgender (I guess the trauma of being bullied got to him) and basically steal the hero's powers and costume (I know he "replicated" them but he's so unoriginal if he's supposed to be smart). If it was "Well, guess I'm still gay" and the dude decided to use his intellect to be a hero (like how he was coordinating the heroic stuff earlier in the issue) instead of stealing from a dead hero, maybe I'd be less annoyed, but it was just so lazy and out of left field that I dropped the comic entirely. I think the worst part was the villain going "this straight white dude wanted to help me and I rejected that" instead of him going "huh, maybe I act too gay at school, I should change that" or you know, telling someone about it or maybe going back and apologizing to the hero while he's in his secret identity. I do think it's really funny how he becomes transgender, then despite being smart in his own right, immediately goes and steals a superhero name and powers from a much better man, even if it was supposed to evoke some sort of "well this is the hero's legacy" theme it felt so tacked on and random.

That was pretty long but I felt disappointed by the 2013 run. The Dark Ages run, while way too long, at least it had a coherent plot and I was somewhat engaged with it since you got to see the Silver Agent pop up "after" his death and everyone trying to persuade him not to go back further in time so he can live.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

I firmly believe in the conspiracy that both Ultimate Spiderman runs were fucked with at the end, when it was pretty clear they were gonna be remembered more fondly.

I don't know if it's a conspiracy as much as it is writers who grew up with a character realizing they've grown physically older than the character (not mentally, as they're all still manchildren) and becoming angry and bitter on some unconscious level. Frank Miller talked about this in a foreword to one of his million reissues of Dark Knight Returns which inspired him to write the book in the first place. It's hard growing up and looking up to this figure and then finding yourself lapping him on the calendar.