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I think Absolute Batman would be more interesting to me if Joker was just a joke villain on the level of a Calendar Man.
Absolute Joker should’ve just been Nemesis, rich playboy billionaire who’s bored and wants some excitement.
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That way you keep the “elites are monsters” angle without blowing your wad and making him Epstein Pennywise. Which is funny because not-Epstein met Nemesis.
 
What’s your guy’s thoughts on absolute Wonder Woman? I think that it is the best book in the line, even beating out abs Batman.
I liked it at first, but ended up dropping it a couple of months back. I never really liked these alternate universe type lines in the first place so it already had that going against it and once they started introducing the side characters I just gave up. Something about them really turned me against the series and oddly enough I'm not even really sure why. Just the idea Wonder Women is going to have a group of people following her around all the time doesn't appeal to me very much I guess.

-Teen Jon will be officially joining the Titans with New Titans #33. My read on it is that DC may be close to giving up on Teen Jon as they're parking him on a title (along with Yara Flor and Stephanie Brown) with a high chance of cancellation in the coming year. Tate Brombal is not a major talent who brings a large readership so I question if they have much faith in the concept.
Titans was actually something I was enjoying so I was pretty annoyed that they switched writers like this. From what Layman was saying it seemed like he was going to be around for the long run so it really surprised me. Also not a huge fan of C-list Batman/Superman/Wonder Women characters joining the team. It really seemed like Layman was laying out the path for Terra to rejoin the team and now she's probably going to get overshadowed now. As for Tate Brombal just take a look as his Twitter and what he looks like IRL and that should be enough to show where the series is heading now.
 
Titans was actually something I was enjoying so I was pretty annoyed that they switched writers like this. From what Layman was saying it seemed like he was going to be around for the long run so it really surprised me. Also not a huge fan of C-list Batman/Superman/Wonder Women characters joining the team. It really seemed like Layman was laying out the path for Terra to rejoin the team and now she's probably going to get overshadowed now. As for Tate Brombal just take a look as his Twitter and what he looks like IRL and that should be enough to show where the series is heading now.
This is speculation on my part, but Layman could have been removed because editorial wanted to force the new lineup on him (hence why Terra is still in it) and he refused. Something to note is that DC does NOT want to admit that Future State was an abject failure so they'll dump Jon Kent and Yara Flor on a struggling title to make them appear relevant. It is highly unlikely to work as Teen Jon is too conceptually radioactive.

Looking back on my previous rant, I actually came to a disturbing conclusion about Jon when you look at the circumstances of how Bendis aged him up. As mentioned before, the Unity Saga had him imprisoned in a volcano and tortured by Ultraman, someone with his father's face. For SEVEN years, and then sidestepped behavioral and intellectual issues such a traumatic experience would create. The tacit message here is that DC feels that it is ethically and narratively acceptable to brutalize a child for editorial convenience. Given that we westerners view childhood as sacrosanct and something to protect at all costs, I imagine many fans reacted so viscerally (even if they did not understand why) for this reason, and to have Superman and Lois Lane fail so catastrophically made it worse.
 
Looking back on my previous rant, I actually came to a disturbing conclusion about Jon when you look at the circumstances of how Bendis aged him up. As mentioned before, the Unity Saga had him imprisoned in a volcano and tortured by Ultraman, someone with his father's face. For SEVEN years, and then sidestepped behavioral and intellectual issues such a traumatic experience would create. The tacit message here is that DC feels that it is ethically and narratively acceptable to brutalize a child for editorial convenience. Given that we westerners view childhood as sacrosanct and something to protect at all costs, I imagine many fans reacted so viscerally (even if they did not understand why) for this reason, and to have Superman and Lois Lane fail so catastrophically made it worse.
It's a big issue that a lot of comic book creators never think of the implications of something until the readers react to it. Hank Pym punched his wife just because the artist thought brushing her hand off his shoulder wasn't dynamic enough, and now Pym is a wife beater. Peter Parker killed Gwen trying to save her because the letterer put the SFX right next to her neck. Batman and Robin are gay lovers because they were shown sleeping in the same bed once.

If the editors actually did their jobs instead of trying to be co-writers, comics could have saved themselves a lot of heart ache.
 
If the editors actually did their jobs instead of trying to be co-writers, comics could have saved themselves a lot of heart ache.
None of them have the same rigor Jim Shooter had back in the day as he demanded that Jean Grey face consequences for wiping out that inhabited star system in The Dark Phoenix Saga. Though he was partially responsible for what happened to Carol Danvers in Avengers #200, he expressed remorse and had the Avengers face the music when she (rightfully) chewed them out on their failure to protect her.

The Jon Kent situation had me so riled up that I'm taking a cue from Carol Strickland and working on a critical essay tearing into DC Comics for letting it happen. Looking up specific issues revealed that the editors on Bendis' run were Brian Cunningham and Mike Cotton. For those not in the know, they both used to be writers/editors for Wizard magazine back in the day and I remember how the staff fellated Bendis on the regular back in the 00s. So it's no surprise that they didn't tard wrangle him and a prepubescent character paid the price for it.
 
None of them have the same rigor Jim Shooter had back in the day as he demanded that Jean Grey face consequences for wiping out that inhabited star system in The Dark Phoenix Saga. Though he was partially responsible for what happened to Carol Danvers in Avengers #200, he expressed remorse and had the Avengers face the music when she (rightfully) chewed them out on their failure to protect her.

The Jon Kent situation had me so riled up that I'm taking a cue from Carol Strickland and working on a critical essay tearing into DC Comics for letting it happen. Looking up specific issues revealed that the editors on Bendis' run were Brian Cunningham and Mike Cotton. For those not in the know, they both used to be writers/editors for Wizard magazine back in the day and I remember how the staff fellated Bendis on the regular back in the 00s. So it's no surprise that they didn't tard wrangle him and a prepubescent character paid the price for it.
Wizard did so much damage to comics in the long run. Like they are part of the reason OMD happened in the first place
 
Catman deserves better than that boring ass SS reboot. Ugh.

Bucky and Nat are finally in a team together and its.....ehh? I'd kill for a series starring just them.
 
Based on the few panels of Absolute Batman I've seen floating around, it appears to be written by an apex mongoloid and solely for the purpose of making the subhuman reddit retards jizz themselves.

I wouldn't even bother pirating such absolute faggotry.
 
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So I ended up finishing West Coast Avengers today, meaning all I have left to read is the Harras' run on Avengers before I'm completely done with all the 20th century Avengers comics that I was interested in. I had read some of WCA as a young kid, so it was pretty fun to go back and see how much I remembered of it.


Engelhart — It was a pretty typical Engelhart story. Lots of weird plots, tons of continuity and callbacks and very good characterization, especially with the likes of Tigra and Hank Pym. I honestly never really liked Hank at all up until this point. He's way better as a support character than as a hero. Lost in Space Time is the best story here and, as an old Marvel fan, seeing the references to the silver age Fantastic Four and Dr. Strange time travel stories were really cool. The only real negative I have to say is that the plots sometimes got really weird, like the cat people storyline with Tigra kind of felt outside of left field even if it did help continue her character arc.


Byrne-Byrne's run left me with mixed feelings, almost the opposite of Engelhart's in many ways, with good plots but horrible characterization. The plots were actually fascinating and probably the best of the whole series, but he seemed to treat the characters as if he hated them all. His sidelining of Hawkeye and Mockingbird, I thought, was dumb and removed my favorite characters up to that point, and his treatment of the Vision was just bizarre to me. I never really cared about his and the Scarlet Witch's relationship, so breaking them up was fine, but completely undoing every major storyline and development of the character was stupid. I also hated that he started the whole mental illness storyline with Scarlet Witch going evil, as I know that's the excuse Bendis would use to justify Avenger's Disassembled years later. It was a little painful to read, to be honest, and if I ever reread the series I think I'll just skip Byrne's part.


Thomas-Thomas' run is good, but not great. Solid stories, many fun moments and it feels a lot more like a typical Avengers story than what Byrne was writing. If you liked his stuff back when he was writing the main Avengers title in the 60s, you'd probably like this. It kind of feels like the opposite of what most of the Marvel books were like at the time. Far slower, less extreme and more traditional than the others, which was nice to see. Even though there weren't any storylines which stuck out to me during this time, I liked how he brought back Goliath Hawkeye and did a way better job than the first time around with it. Also, he did a good job of having the Scarlet Witch deal with the nightmare that Byrne ran her through. The ending was depressing for no reason though. He just killed off Mockingbird for no reason and then the book basically ends, so you don't really even get to see any fallout from it. Totally lame and a missed opportunity if you ask me.
 
They are a bargain compared to Marvel's Epic line.
IMO DC has been getting all the hits lately.
And they still have more content then the Epic line has for a lower price. I just want them to do a Starman line and start with the Will Payton stuff or Golden Age Ted.

Even with the printing flaw, I can still read the book right and make out the words despite some letters being barely visiable. Sorry, I'm just annoyed about that right now.
 
And they still have more content then the Epic line has for a lower price. I just want them to do a Starman line and start with the Will Payton stuff or Golden Age Ted.

Even with the printing flaw, I can still read the book right and make out the words despite some letters being barely visiable. Sorry, I'm just annoyed about that right now.
I've been reading one of the Batman DC Finest and the color for the first ten issues is fucked up. Its subtle, but it looks like when you run out of black ink and the printer uses red instead. I only really noticed it because I've read the same issues before in a format where the color wasn't all janked.
 
I've been reading one of the Batman DC Finest and the color for the first ten issues is fucked up. Its subtle, but it looks like when you run out of black ink and the printer uses red instead. I only really noticed it because I've read the same issues before in a format where the color wasn't all janked.
I heard about that. I think this kinda worse then having a D be faded to the point you can't make it out. You can infer what the word is but the ink wasn't printed right for the word bubble
 
Well, I finished my sperg-out critical essay on the aging-up of Jon Kent, and in writing it realized how truly fucked up the situation is. Having gone over how DC basically allowed Bendis to write about a child being imprisoned and tortured while derailing both Lois and Clark's characters to the point where they became negligent parents with no true consequences. Another angle I found was that the government would get involved if they learned that some seventeen-year-old was using the identity of a (presumed missing) ten-year-old. Thus Teen Jon has no real legal standing in-universe. Similarly, Lois and Clark could face civil and even criminal ramifications if a government agent probed deeply enough. Bendis ignored the fact that Kid Jon was still enrolled in school and had peers when he left. A teacher, parent, or someone inside the community would have noticed his disappearance. Similarly, Lois and Clark would likely have to hide Teen Jon from the public--effectively one of Superman's core principles: truth. As would Batman and Mr. Terrific forging government records thus rendering their son's existence a lie.

Something problematic I learned about his relationship with Jay Nakamura is that Jay was pretty much his only supporting character and the only justification to keep the shaky status quo they forced on the audience. Unfortunately, Jay broke up with him in the last Secret Six series so Teen Jon lost the scaffolding holding up his broken narrative.

All in all, this is becoming a case study in how to completely derail a character in five easy steps.
 
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